Re: Players that were amazing at club level but not at National level

by drakefyre Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:11 pm

eelir wrote:Forlan?

Doesnt he won the golden ball in SA invalidate this argument ?

by Ganso Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:21 pm

Robben is inconsistent for holland if you ask me

by che Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:49 pm

by EarlyPrototype Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:54 pm

RVP
Ronaldo
Messi
England team

by Adit Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:54 pm

lot of people screaming CR7,,i believe all of them born after 2004 uero cup lol

by The Madrid One Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:22 pm

hugo sanchez indeed.......

thierry henry?

nah hes the top scorer Very Happy

by pdolson Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:26 pm

messi's too young to be considered. he's not doing that bad same with ronaldo.

totti's a good one. only 9 goals in 58 games. tevez and d milito, though in recent times tevez has done better.

klose and podolski (vice versa). podolski's just wasting his club career at koln.

by S Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:53 pm

got to be podolski..he is wonderful to watch when playing in germany colours but somehow has flattered to decieve at club level..but he's still 26 lets not forget..

by rsinatra Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:55 pm

i think people need to learn how to differentiate one thing from another... some of these players do play well for their NT, but the thing is that team is different, and the chemistry level too, so they cant do the impossible.

anyway, a player that couldve done more: ronaldinho. he did well in his early years, in the 2002 WC, but he couldve done better at his peak and at the 2006 WC, especially cause there were good players around him but they all did poorly.. and he hasnt been good ever since

by eelir Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:38 pm

drakefyre wrote:
eelir wrote:Forlan?

Doesnt he won the golden ball in SA invalidate this argument ?

true, but the OT said vice versa which means good in NT but not with team. I made a question mark cuz he has not been so good with the team this season. Anyone who followed Atleti better this year?

by Magricos Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:49 pm

Cantona

by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:26 pm

Ronaldo

by rsinatra Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:59 pm

which ronaldo is this you people are talking about?

it must be c. ronaldo?

by rsinatra Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:06 pm

which ronaldo is this you people are talking about?

it must be c. ronaldo?

by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:33 pm

C. Ronaldo

by Lionel Bieber Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:40 pm

Messi

laughable at his NT

by Nirgal Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:22 am

Cristiano Ronaldo

by Nirgal Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:23 am

Lionel Bieber wrote:Messi

laughable at his NT

I take it you don't follow Argentina's national team.

by M99 Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:18 am

Adit wrote:lot of people screaming CR7,,i believe all of them born after 2004 uero cup lol

Yeah, one good tournament makes up for all the other failures Rolling Eyes

by Magricos Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:04 pm

CR7 was good at 06WC. Rooney anyone

by uzonero Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:42 pm

I'd say nesta just because he is world class with milan but always injured when on NT duty

by S Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:49 pm

quite ignorant to say C.ronaldo has not performed at national level...i think some ppl are basing their opinion on world cup 2010..except the game against norh korea ,he was quite poor in other games TBH..i think he did quite well at 2006 wc..did well in both euros if u ask me..saying that cr7 has not performed at national level is a joke..

by dzah Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:57 pm

Messi (My Rep R.I.P)
Casillas

by Albiceleste Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:03 pm

dzah wrote:Messi (My Rep R.I.P)
Casillas

You only get neg rep if you say something that doesn't fly with the MADrid community

by Lord Spencer Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:08 pm

dzah wrote:Messi (My Rep R.I.P)
Casillas

Casillas???????

Since Spain have been using him for a log time now, and since they are the best team since 2008. I fail to see how the keeper of the best team is a flop.

May I remind you of Spain's Euro and WC scorelines

Euro:

4-1
2-1
2-1
0-0 (4-2)
3-0
1-0

WC:
0-1
2-0
2-1
1-0
1-0
1-0
1-0

From these matches, we can see that Spain's offense is not the only thing what made Spain successful, but rather their strong defense, which as seen from the results would naturally infer a strong custodian.

I am not talking as a biased fan, since I am not a fan of Madrid, or the Spanish NT.

by dzah Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:40 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
dzah wrote:Messi (My Rep R.I.P)
Casillas

Casillas???????

Since Spain have been using him for a log time now, and since they are the best team since 2008. I fail to see how the keeper of the best team is a flop.

May I remind you of Spain's Euro and WC scorelines

Euro:

4-1
2-1
2-1
0-0 (4-2)
3-0
1-0

WC:
0-1
2-0
2-1
1-0
1-0
1-0
1-0

From these matches, we can see that Spain's offense is not the only thing what made Spain successful, but rather their strong defense, which as seen from the results would naturally infer a strong custodian.

I am not talking as a biased fan, since I am not a fan of Madrid, or the Spanish NT.

im actully a madrid supporter,and i think casillas has been fantastic in the NT but in my eyes he isnt the same in madrid ,maybe that just me thoe

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