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Post by shinigami99 Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:33 am

I heard he wants to play Campagnaro in a fullback role(or at least, he said at first look he thought of him as playing as a full back). I think garay should start regardless.

I hope we'll have a better idea by the end of tomorrow's training session

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Post by The Franchise Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:25 pm

Maybe im a little harsh, but is Cata Diaz not just a hatchet man?

I mean, I have seen him put in some decent performances, even against Barca. But he has little real talent from what it seems and he gets by with shirt pulling, tactical fouls and physical intimidation rather then his actual skill.

In the end, such tactics get found out at the highest levels and I would be rather surprised if he became the a key piece in the Argentine backline.

Maybe im being harsh.





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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:59 pm

The latest rumors forecast this team:

Romero
Zabaleta - Cata Diaz - Garay - Campagnaro
Sosa - Mascherano - Brana - Salvio
Messi - Kun

But they are quick to add that these are just rumors and that the only certain thing is that the coach will play a 4-4-2
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Post by The Franchise Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:12 pm

Campagnaro leftback...what other options are there in the squad?

That midfield looks so weak.
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Post by guest7 Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:44 pm

Why no Gago?
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:47 pm

Sosa :brickwall:

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Post by Ganso Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:54 pm

campagnaro as a FB?

I wonder how much Sosa pays AFA
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:10 pm

Now the team is rumored to be

Romero
Campagnaro- Garay - Fernández - Zabaleta
Sosa - Braña - Masche - Maxi Rodríguez
Messi - Kun

Substitute the entire midfield bar Masche and I think we're on to something lol :facepalm:

In his defense both Banega and Di Maria are injured, I'd like to think they would replace Brana and Maxi if they were fit. Sosa though :facepalm:


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Post by Albiceleste Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:34 pm

Joke of a line up :facepalm:

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Post by shinigami99 Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:11 pm

Sabella :facepalm: :facepalm:

Why is he trying to integrate his mediocre former Estudiantes players when there are so many better choices(even in this very ordinary squad call up)?

Sometimes I think it's better we get a foreign coach so they would be completely neutral in who they call up.

Sosa is the pinnacle of mediocrity. If you're going to call him up from an unknown team(Metalist) rather than say Ansaldi, who plays for a recognized Russian team that year after year competes in the CL, then something is definitely wrong.

the only thing that is okay about the formation is the backline(which actually looks pretty solid, albeit slow). But even then, it is not very dynamic and because of the slow full backs, might be better sitting back and counter attacking with hoof ball.I don't really want to see Argentina play like that.

Maxi is completely past it but I don't mind his inclusion(who can forget his memorable volley against Mexico in WC 2006). I don't think he should be starting though. My formation, in a 4-4-2, given the called up squad:

------------Romero----------
-Zabaleta/Campagnaro-Garay--Fernandez--Monzon
-Salvio--Gago-------Masch-------Lamela------
---------Messi-------Kun------------

This is okay but we can do so much better with the full backs...Pillud at RB and Ansaldi at LB would make this a great team on paper.

Doesn't make sense predicting lineups now because our recent coaches have their favourites who add absolutely nothing to our team. One could only dream
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:06 pm

Argentina XI vs. Switzerland: Romero; Campagnaro, Fernandez, Garay, Zabaleta; Rodriguez, Braña, Mascherano, Sosa; Aguero, Messi.


Switzerland Starting XI (4-4-1-1): Benaglio; Lichtsteiner, Senderos, Affolter, Rodriguez; Shaqiri, Inler, Dzemaili, Frei; Xhaka; Mehmedi.

God help us No

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Post by Albiceleste Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:26 pm

Albiceleste wrote:

God help us
D10S answered my call :bow:

dat GOAT

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Post by shinigami99 Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:49 pm

Lio :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

That first goal was insane :bow:

Kun and Messi partnership :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

our midfield :facepalm:

Garay :bow:
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:00 pm

Garay and Campag were good, Fernandez was sloppy, Zabaleta was okay.

Messi, once again, the best player on the pitch with the Argentina shirt. He's the 5th all time top scorer now for Argentina!

Brana screwed up too many times, Gago must start over him.

Maxi and Sosa were shit mostly as expected.

Kun was great, almost had a great goal but was denied by some great goal keeping. His movement dribbles and link up play with Messi was superb! Higuain is out of form again so Aguero and Messi need to continue to start together.

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Post by shinigami99 Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:13 pm

Albiceleste wrote:Garay and Campag were good, Fernandez was sloppy, Zabaleta was okay.

Messi, once again, the best player on the pitch with the Argentina shirt. He's the 5th all time top scorer now for Argentina!

Brana screwed up too many times, Gago must start over him.

Maxi and Sosa were shit mostly as expected.

I expect Di Maria to take Maxi's spot and Sabella has some sort of Estudiantes man crush on Sosa, so he's not going anywhere -_-

IMO I think we would do great with a 4-3-3 Messi-Higuain-Kun/Di Maria with a good creative midfielder: Pastore/Canteros(Velez)/Lamela(future)/ or some sort of Aimar type player.

Im still not sold on Masch in the midfield, I think he's not gonna get much minutes as a midfielder in Barca and should go into defense with Garay. Gago must start as you said. The last midfield spot could be Banega or Biglia
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:15 pm

Phil Schoen of goltv was hyping Biglia too today during the match commentary hmm hes been reading my posts? hmm Razz

Glad this Biglia campaign is getting somewhere! :dance:

I agree with you on Masche, Masche and Garay should be our starting CBs if not Campagnaro maybe.

I don't like Messi on the wing, I like him playing off of another striker like he does in a 442 the way he did against Chile and Switzerland today.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:29 pm

LM you have competition from the Cirigliano campaign going on in Argentina. He's a River player who looks like he might be a good DM in the nearby future, he's often compared with Mascherano but that's only because they're both River products. He's more technical than Javier but less defensively solid (although it would be hard to be better than Masche in that aspect). Anyways, just another name to keep out for. My own personal opinion is that until he plays in primera instead of segunda we won't know how good he really is.

About the match it's nice to see Messi take the team under his wing and really prove he's there when it matters. He needs to do away with his bad reputation amongst those that don't actually watch Argentina.

Sabella continues to call Estudiantes players: Sosa, Desabato (in the past), Fernandez, Brana and almost all of them have been disappointment. I hope he starts seeing past his familiarity with these players.

It was nice to see semblances of a defensively solid team in la seleccion. Garay was class. For the first time in a few years I bitched more about the midfield than the defense.

Maxi Rodriguez should retire from international football. Even Sosa was better than him.

I thought it was interesting that Gago was the only change at half time, maybe he's debating between Brana and Gago as his main DM?
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:00 am

Maxi was far too slow with his decision making and he was just out of depth compared to everyone else. Can't wait to see us playing with our full strength squad. Manita against Brasil anyone? Laughing Twisted Evil

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:04 am

My main problem with the match (and the formation, really) is that Messi is the only creative source of the game. Neither Masche nor Gago/Brana provided much in this aspect, and both wingers were awful so we might as well have played without them. This might change with Di Maria, but unless Gaitan replaces Sosa (looks unlikely) we are going to be far too predictable for the big boys.
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Post by shinigami99 Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:45 pm

Apparently Messi gave lamela his boots which he is going to wear for Roma today. Good to see that their relationship is looking good right now.

In other news, many clubs are looking at Matias Suarez of Anderlect, including Arsenal, Manchester city/ United and I think even Barca were looking at him
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Post by Albiceleste Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:12 pm

Matias Suarez is decent, I don't know if he could play straight away for a top club like the ones that are looking at him, but he has potential.

Lamela and Messi chemistry already building :bow:

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Post by The Franchise Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:45 am

Aint Lamela like 6 feet tall? They wear the same size shoe?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:46 am

I guess so lol.

Lamela's birthday ruined by Stek's immature mistake.
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Post by S32TABLANCA Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:12 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I guess so lol.

Lamela's birthday ruined by Stek's immature mistake.

Lamela's birthday?

He can GTFO, its my birthday first and foremost. :coffee:
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Post by juventus101 Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:28 pm

--Romero--
--Campagnaro-- --Coloccini-- --Garay--
--Di Maria-- --Banega-- --Mascherano-- --Zanetti--
--Messi-- --Lavezzi--
--Aguero--
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:59 pm


Sabella explains how he almost beat Barcelona in the CWC final.
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