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What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by The Franchise on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:49 pm






Why did Mourinho turn him from a number 10 to a defensive midfield?

The player in the vids is a completely different player, a real number 10. The second vid especially, close control in tight spaces, killer final balls...what happened?


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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Vibe on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:51 pm

Mourinho wasn't there to complete the transformation.

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Moffo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:52 pm

big black player = defensive midfielder i guess... happens to a lot of african players like keita, toure etc--


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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by The Franchise on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:56 pm

VibeTribe wrote:Mourinho wasn't there to complete the transformation.


Mou was the one who took him from number 10 to holding player....

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Vibe on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:59 pm

The Franchise wrote:
VibeTribe wrote:Mourinho wasn't there to complete the transformation.


Mou was the one who took him from number 10 to holding player....


Yeah,and then he left and Mikel was left behind as unfinished product.

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Bear-Felix on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:01 pm

I think when Mou moved him back he was expecting to do a Pirlo-esqe transformation.

In theory it should work but Mikel had massive discipline problems and a really poor attitude (improved now) and didn't take to it to well.


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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by El Chelsea Fuerte on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:01 pm

I just wonder how he lost all his attacking talents just because he got switched to DM. Now I know playing DM meant he couldn't utilize his attacking skills but I would at least expect him to pass more lethal balls from there but he looks like a overly-cautious defensive player to me. Not the one shown in the video, which is why I wonder.

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Abramovich on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:02 pm

Oh wow, who is this guy I'm seeing.

I mean I knew he played AM before he joined Chelsea and was second to Messi in that World Cup, but I really don't recognise his style of play AT ALL.

Mourinho curbed everyone's flair and creativity to some extent at Chelsea, guess Mikel being big and tall didn't do him any favours in terms of playing as a AM for Chelsea.

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Ganso on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:03 pm

he still plays an advanced role for the NT though if im correct.

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Le Samourai on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:04 pm

VibeTribe wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
VibeTribe wrote:Mourinho wasn't there to complete the transformation.


Mou was the one who took him from number 10 to holding player....


Yeah,and then he left and Mikel was left behind as unfinished product.


Firstly he was making space for him.

Secondly he was trying to turn him into a complete midfielder


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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by El Chelsea Fuerte on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:05 pm

Bear-Felix wrote:In theory it should work but Mikel had massive discipline problems and a really poor attitude (improved now) and didn't take to it to well.


Yeah he had major issues in the past, but ironically he is probably the most disciplined player whenever he plays now lol!

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by The Franchise on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:06 pm

english_jewel wrote:I just wonder how he lost all his attacking talents just because he got switched to DM. Now I know playing DM meant he couldn't utilize his attacking skills but I would at least expect him to pass more lethal balls from there but he looks like a overly-cautious defensive player to me. Not the one shown in the video, which is why I wonder.


Intresting point.

I guess because as a number 10, you naturally take risks.

So when learning a new position, I assume Mourinho said stop all the risks and play the easy ball. So thats in his head now and he thinks thats what he should be doing.

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by The Franchise on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:08 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
VibeTribe wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
VibeTribe wrote:Mourinho wasn't there to complete the transformation.


Mou was the one who took him from number 10 to holding player....


Yeah,and then he left and Mikel was left behind as unfinished product.


Firstly he was making space for him.

Secondly he was trying to turn him into a complete midfielder



Why buy a number 10 to play him as a holding player...if you want a holding player, buy one lol

And turning him into a complete midfield by putting him in a position to take no risks and only make easy balls?


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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by The Franchise on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:09 pm

Ganso wrote:he still plays an advanced role for the NT though if im correct.


And I bet he sucks at it seeing as he hasnt played there consistently for like 5 years lol

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Abramovich on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:10 pm

The Franchise wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I just wonder how he lost all his attacking talents just because he got switched to DM. Now I know playing DM meant he couldn't utilize his attacking skills but I would at least expect him to pass more lethal balls from there but he looks like a overly-cautious defensive player to me. Not the one shown in the video, which is why I wonder.


Intresting point.

I guess because as a number 10, you naturally take risks.

So when learning a new position, I assume Mourinho said stop all the risks and play the easy ball. So thats in his head now and he thinks thats what he should be doing.


I remember an interview with him after Makelele left and everyone was assuming he was going to take over the reins and the interview guy asked something about if he was still going to go forward, and he replied with something like "sure its the John Obi Mikel way" confused

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by Swagg on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:12 pm

Lol Mourinho ruined his career ..

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by El Chelsea Fuerte on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:12 pm

The Franchise wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I just wonder how he lost all his attacking talents just because he got switched to DM. Now I know playing DM meant he couldn't utilize his attacking skills but I would at least expect him to pass more lethal balls from there but he looks like a overly-cautious defensive player to me. Not the one shown in the video, which is why I wonder.


Intresting point.

I guess because as a number 10, you naturally take risks.

So when learning a new position, I assume Mourinho said stop all the risks and play the easy ball. So thats in his head now and he thinks thats what he should be doing.


I think pretty much every post-Mourinho Chelsea manager liked the defensive Mikel the way Mourinho molded him to be. But obviously it isn't going to work with Villas-Boas

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Re: What happened to Obi Mikel?

Post by The Franchise on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:14 pm

No idea man lol

I just wonder what could of been to be honest.

I still like him to a degree now and I dont think he was going to be the Nigerian Rui Costa or something, but I think whatever potential he had as a very good number 10 is lost and now he only a decent holding mid.

I just dont get what the idea was behind such a dramatic change of position other than the old "big strong black dude, have him defend"

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