jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:Wow, write up a blog jibs
I'm going to watch him in action soon. When will he play again?

Sunday vs Norwich, I think he should start... :dance:

We have a date then :shisha:

Immortal Babun wrote:

jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:Wow, write up a blog jibs
I'm going to watch him in action soon. When will he play again?

Sunday vs Norwich, I think he should start... :dance:

We have a date then :shisha:

Immortal Babun wrote:

jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:Wow, write up a blog jibs
I'm going to watch him in action soon. When will he play again?

Sunday vs Norwich, I think he should start... :dance:

We have a date then :shisha:

Did you watch all the videos in the OP? If you did what did you think, and if you didn't...do it... :dance:

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jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:

jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:Wow, write up a blog jibs
I'm going to watch him in action soon. When will he play again?

Sunday vs Norwich, I think he should start... :dance:

We have a date then :shisha:

Did you watch all the videos in the OP? If you did what did you think, and if you didn't...do it... :dance:

I didn't, I'll watch tonight, at the moment too busy I just read your OP first.

[quote="Immortal Babun"][quote="jibers"]

Immortal Babun wrote:

jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:

jibers wrote:

Immortal Babun wrote:Wow, write up a blog jibs
I'm going to watch him in action soon. When will he play again?

Sunday vs Norwich, I think he should start... :dance:

We have a date then :shisha:

Did you watch all the videos in the OP? If you did what did you think, and if you didn't...do it... :dance:

I didn't, I'll watch tonight, at the moment too busy I just read your OP first.

fair enough... :dance:

I watched your youtube vids:

+ vision and passing range is all over the field
+ superb passing on the ground and in the air
+ his body is build like a midfielder in regista role
+ ball control and shieling are already at a very high level
+ he thinks ahead before he gets the ball
+ very mobile with or without the ball
+ he doesn't look like a wuss
+ Manu could win EPL with him

- his first touch is a bit heavy until he gets the ball under control (I'm comparing to la liga)
- his aerial passes are superb but lack the power you need to curl them properly to make them supreme, maybe I'm too spoiled with Scholes and Pirlo but they can hit parabola passes through the air which hit at a very vertical angle on the ground
- his finishing and final ball lack finesse, he is raw in that department


Verdict: raw but already at a very high level. His ceiling is very high if he develops properly. Pair him with someone like M'Vila and you're set for years to come

Immortal Babun wrote:I watched your youtube vids:

+ vision and passing range is all over the field
+ superb passing on the ground and in the air
+ his body is build like a midfielder in regista role
+ ball control and shieling are already at a very high level
+ he thinks ahead before he gets the ball
+ very mobile with or without the ball
+ he doesn't look like a wuss
+ Manu could win EPL & CL with him

- his first touch is a bit heavy until he gets the ball under control (I'm comparing to la liga)
- his aerial passes are superb but lack the power you need to curl them properly to make them supreme, maybe I'm too spoiled with Scholes and Pirlo but they can hit parabola passes through the air which hit at a very vertical angle on the ground
- his finishing and final ball lack finesse, he is raw in that department


Verdict: raw but already at a very high level. His ceiling is very high if he develops properly. Pair him with someone like M'Vila and you're set for years to come

:dance:

Immortal Babun wrote:I watched your youtube vids:

+ vision and passing range is all over the field
+ superb passing on the ground and in the air
+ his body is build like a midfielder in regista role
+ ball control and shieling are already at a very high level
+ he thinks ahead before he gets the ball
+ very mobile with or without the ball
+ he doesn't look like a wuss
+ Manu could win EPL with him

- his first touch is a bit heavy until he gets the ball under control (I'm comparing to la liga)
- his aerial passes are superb but lack the power you need to curl them properly to make them supreme, maybe I'm too spoiled with Scholes and Pirlo but they can hit parabola passes through the air which hit at a very vertical angle on the ground
- his finishing and final ball lack finesse, he is raw in that department


Verdict: raw but already at a very high level. His ceiling is very high if he develops properly. Pair him with someone like M'Vila and you're set for years to come

Cleverley GOAT

We'll gladly buy him when he is ripe

RED 80s. wrote:Jibers..I wish I can give you more +1's. Thanx for that.

I'll gladly make up for that +1.

GOAT Jibers is GOAT.

Very good performance, glad he is back. Do you think he could fit into the same team as Scholes or is it purely one or the other?

I am thinking its one or the other, though if you guys ever went back to a 3 man midfield in a certain situation I could possibly see it.

The Franchise wrote:Very good performance, glad he is back. Do you think he could fit into the same team as Scholes or is it purely one or the other?

I am thinking its one or the other, though if you guys ever went back to a 3 man midfield in a certain situation I could possibly see it.

Good question. I don't really think so tbh. Cleverley is like a faster version of a younger Scholes. Scholes sort of sits back now and dictates the game from deep while Cleverley shifts the ball forward rapidly. I can't see them working tbh. Cleverley has massive amounts of potential. He epitomises our style at the start of the seaon and I feel had he been fit, we would still be in the Cl. We have won every game were he has started for us. I can't think of a similar player to him atm tbh. He adds that extra pace that differentiates us from the functional farce of last seaoson. The we are a much better team than last seaon. Shame we have no CL football to show it.

jibers wrote:I can't think of a similar player to him atm tbh.

He reminds me of Arsenal's Fabregas, not the false 9 who is playing for Barca atm.

azzurres wrote:

jibers wrote:I can't think of a similar player to him atm tbh.

He reminds me of Arsenal's Fabregas, not the false 9 who is playing for Barca atm.

Really? Cleverley drops far deeper and does a CM role but he speeds up the pace and makes forward runs too liink up the attacks from CM. Fabregas only did the Linking of attacks from CM to attack. He wasn't a CM.

Depends what you mean by a CM, a lot of his team actions at Arsenal started directly from the central circle with him pinging the kind of passes Cleverley is doing in your sig.

If by a CM you want also one who can harass the other midfielders, then yeah Fabregas was not really a hound in that aspect.

He takes the ball like a boss and passes the ball likes hes been in the game for years. Can't wait to see him in a few years, even the England squad
McEachran
Jones
Smalling
Oxlade Chamber
Cleverly
Wilshere Wow!

DavidVilla92 wrote:He takes the ball like a boss and passes the ball likes hes been in the game for years. Can't wait to see him in a few years, even the England squad
McEachran
Jones
Smalling
Oxlade Chamber
Cleverly
Wilshere Wow!

The real "golden generation" there

How's your studies going mate?

DavidVilla92 wrote:He takes the ball like a boss and passes the ball likes hes been in the game for years. Can't wait to see him in a few years, even the England squad
McEachran
Jones
Smalling
Oxlade Chamber
Cleverly
Wilshere Wow!

Broski where have you been ffs. Post more

RED 80s. wrote:

DavidVilla92 wrote:He takes the ball like a boss and passes the ball likes hes been in the game for years. Can't wait to see him in a few years, even the England squad
McEachran
Jones
Smalling
Oxlade Chamber
Cleverly
Wilshere Wow!

The real "golden generation" there

How's your studies going mate?

I know yeah, the horrible feelings of Gerrard, Terry and Lampard all retiring are long gone. Move on to the next gen no bother!

Studies are horrible, got 104 days to go the start of the big exams then I free How you getting on?

jibers wrote:

DavidVilla92 wrote:He takes the ball like a boss and passes the ball likes hes been in the game for years. Can't wait to see him in a few years, even the England squad
McEachran
Jones
Smalling
Oxlade Chamber
Cleverly
Wilshere Wow!

Broski where have you been ffs. Post more

I've been back at school this year, been concentrating on study alot of the time so i only get to have a quick look around for a few mins a week unfortunately sorry.

DavidVilla92 wrote:

RED 80s. wrote:

DavidVilla92 wrote:He takes the ball like a boss and passes the ball likes hes been in the game for years. Can't wait to see him in a few years, even the England squad
McEachran
Jones
Smalling
Oxlade Chamber
Cleverly
Wilshere Wow!

The real "golden generation" there

How's your studies going mate?

I know yeah, the horrible feelings of Gerrard, Terry and Lampard all retiring are long gone. Move on to the next gen no bother!

Studies are horrible, got 104 days to go the start of the big exams then I free How you getting on?

Not bad myself. Good luck with everything, pal.

Watched the first half and was fairly impressed, can't wait till these guys are all playing for the 3 lions Also Hart, Sturridge, Richards, AJ

cleverley re aggravated his ankle problem vs Ajax...had a scan they hope its just sore, and not more damage

REWB wrote:one thing is he is not good with his back to goal. whenever he is pressure he always passes back, in addition he doesn't do enough defence splitting passes, but that might come as he grows.

Mate, that's what you're meant to do anyway if you're under pressure. Have you not see Carrick and Busquets do the same thing? Especially the latter who has so much composure, he either passes the ball or does a swift turn to full the players ganging up on him.

Shame he is injured again, wanted to see him for england

World class not many players play can dominate a midfield of Jake Livermore
and Niko Kranjcar..... :dance: out for the holland game? maybe a recall for Carrick