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Post by RED Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 pm

Super_floren wannabe. Not even as funny or remotely amusing as SF.

Just an insignificant troll who brings the RM fans level down on this site.

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Post by Art Morte Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 pm

babun1024 wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Don't you think you should hold it a bit, Babun?
Answer my question first. Are EPL top teams anything near as strong as 2-4 years ago? Very Happy I'm telling the truth. The so called best league in the world is a lot weaker in top competition by now=CL eco smile

Manc United and Manc City are stronger than last year.
Arsenal is weaker, but has got the financial structure to bounce back, even during this season.
Liverpool are stronger than last season.
Chelsea should be at least as strong as last season.
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Post by Babun Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:11 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:Babun is my student :coffee: But, I would not count United or Chelsea out, especially Fergie's Kids. Stoke is anti-football team, and Rooney to MU is like Ibra to Milan. Chelsea needs few fixes to work smoothly.

Arsenal and L'pool clearly in ''no one knows when they ll come back'' situation.

City will fail miserably, but has winter window untill FFP, plus a manager like Hiddink will make this team strong
Manu scrap with park the bus-> counter attack tactics against low-> mid tier teams. Their midfield is too bad for top competition already. If they meat Farca or Bayern then goodbye 99%.They miss Scholes dearly Very Happy
Chelsea have huge creativity issues in CM area. They don't have anyone who'd offer them the extra edge to win over another top team. The Chelski with Lampard-Ballack-Essien of old would stand a chance against anyone Very Happy
Devil-Is-Red wrote:Super_floren wannabe. Not even as funny or remotely amusing as SF.

Just an insignificant troll who brings the RM fans level down on this site.
So I was telling the truth afterall because it seems like you have nothing substansional to add Very Happy


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Post by The Messiah Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:11 pm

They still have some of the best teams in the world Along side La Liga

But is no lie that they are declining bit by bit.
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Post by Babun Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:13 pm

Art Morte wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Don't you think you should hold it a bit, Babun?
Answer my question first. Are EPL top teams anything near as strong as 2-4 years ago? Very Happy I'm telling the truth. The so called best league in the world is a lot weaker in top competition by now=CL eco smile

Manc United and Manc City are stronger than last year.
Arsenal is weaker, but has got the financial structure to bounce back, even during this season.
Liverpool are stronger than last season.
Chelsea should be at least as strong as last season.
Read, then comment... Very Happy
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:14 pm

babun1024 wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:Babun is my student :coffee: But, I would not count United or Chelsea out, especially Fergie's Kids. Stoke is anti-football team, and Rooney to MU is like Ibra to Milan. Chelsea needs few fixes to work smoothly.

Arsenal and L'pool clearly in ''no one knows when they ll come back'' situation.

City will fail miserably, but has winter window untill FFP, plus a manager like Hiddink will make this team strong
Manu scrap with park the-> counter attack tactics against low-> mid tier teams. Their midfield is too bad for top competition already. If they meat Farca or Bayern then goodbye 99%.They miss Scholes dearly Very Happy
Chelsea have huge creativity issues in CM area. They don't have anyone who'd offer them the extra edge to win over another top team. The Chelski with Lampard-Ballack-Essien of old would stand a chance against anyone Very Happy

I know United mid is overrated, but they have 2 mids actually (counting Nani/Young as attackers). Insert 1 good CM winter/summer, they are on the roll, still can cope with out it greatly.

Chelsea can rebuild very fast.


If we are talking long term, I dont expect Arsenal, Liverpool, City to be a force in next 3 years.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:16 pm

we havnt been a force since 2004 Smile
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Post by pUsHa Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:16 pm

Bayern scored 2 lucky goals against City ... and you call that the decline of the premier league !?

Ferguson experimented again with the squad and now its the end of the world , lol .

I bet my avatar and sig for half a year that english teams will go futher than teh german ones :coffee:
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:18 pm

Babun :bow:

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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:18 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:This team either got some satanic luck, or matches are rigged. Remember CSKA 2009? 3-1 lead, Man U makes it 3-3 in injury time, and games like this since 1999 final. The feck is that? Somebody needs to trash them hard, who's up to the challenge?

It's what happens when a team never gives up and gives it their all for 90+ mins.

You bitter that Milan can never do this?

OP- let's see how RM can do if they had Key players like Rooney, Hernandez, nani, Vidic, rafael and Smalling missing like United had. nani only came in for the last 6 mins and immediately assisted a goal.

With our full squad, we would have won this game...just like how we win 99% of our home matches in the last 4 years.

Did against Barca, still gotta have a limit in luck.
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Post by Lord Hades Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:19 pm

the thing about city is that, sure they wont qualify for the group stages this summer, and heads will roll. managers and staff will be sacked, players will be disposed of but such is the money their owner has he can as simply buy a completely new team and led by a better manager.. ultimately money does talk and city are going to be a force whichever way you look at it , eventually
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:19 pm

RealGunner wrote:we havnt been a force since 2004 Smile
:facepalm: 2006 final
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Post by Fadi Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:19 pm

i wouldn't write Man utd off!, they're having problems yes but they're still one of the absolute best teams in europe right behind barca, madrid and maybe bayern...

man utd aside, the other english teams are in big big trouble and are in decline, especially arsenal and chelsea, as for man city i never actually saw them as candidates, not even close, no team spirit, no hard work, pretty weak coach, crappy defence and average midfield....

but man utd are different story!, they're still top class and can still kick any clubs butt anyday of the weak, only idiots would write them off..
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Post by S Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:20 pm

Premier League teams usually give their answers to the questions posed come February.. Rolling Eyes
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Post by RealGunner Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:20 pm

since 2006 then lol, but we were terrible in the league tbf.
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:21 pm

pUsHa wrote:Bayern scored 2 lucky goals against City ... and you call that the decline of the premier league !?

Ferguson experimented again with the squad and now its the end of the world , lol .

I bet my avatar and sig for half a year that english teams will go futher than teh german ones :coffee:
Lucky goals? I guess you don't know the meaning of poacher.

Bayern to go farther than the English teams? I'd actually take that, but I'll wait until midseason since we don't know how the group stages will turn out.
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Post by Babun Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:21 pm

RealGunner wrote:we havnt been a force since 2004 Smile
You could kick AC Milan's backpart with a fit Kaka in CL at least. At the moment, cannon fodder only ( sorry for the direct expression but it describes the situation in the most precise way ) Very Happy
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RealGunner wrote:we havnt been a force since 2004 Smile
:facepalm: 2006 final
This! Very Happy
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Post by Lord Hades Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:23 pm

babun1024 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:we havnt been a force since 2004 Smile
You could kick AC Milan's backpart with a fit Kaka in CL at least. At the moment, cannon fodder only ( sorry for the direct expression but it describes the situation in the most precise way ) Very Happy

yet with such a pathetic squad arsenal were leading against the champions of bundesliga until they were rescued by a wonder goal
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Post by pUsHa Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:24 pm

Sushi Master wrote:
pUsHa wrote:Bayern scored 2 lucky goals against City ... and you call that the decline of the premier league !?

Ferguson experimented again with the squad and now its the end of the world , lol .

I bet my avatar and sig for half a year that english teams will go futher than teh german ones :coffee:
Lucky goals? I guess you don't know the meaning of poacher.


Those goals were lucky they werent created to be put in the net by a tap in like a poacher does ... they were lucky goals . :coffee:

Sushi Master wrote:

Bayern to go farther than the English teams? I'd actually take that, but I'll wait until midseason since we don't know how the group stages will turn out.

That's the interesting thing ... the fall of the EPL is already called so a bet like this is only fit !


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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:24 pm

Atleast wait till tomorrow Twisted Evil
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Post by Babun Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:25 pm

pUsHa wrote:Bayern scored 2 lucky goals against City ... and you call that the decline of the premier league !?

Ferguson experimented again with the squad and now its the end of the world , lol .

I bet my avatar and sig for half a year that english teams will go futher than teh german ones :coffee:
Moment kid, a basic question, where did I mention Bundesliga teams? The thread is about EPL and the teams I mentioned Very Happy
You could get your off topic....post... somewhere else Very Happy
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RealGunner wrote:we havnt been a force since 2004 Smile
You could kick AC Milan's backpart with a fit Kaka in CL at least. At the moment, cannon fodder only ( sorry for the direct expression but it describes the situation in the most precise way ) Very Happy

yet with such a pathetic squad arsenal were leading against the champions of bundesliga until they were rescued by a wonder goal
So you consider Dortmund a top team? Very Happy I don't Very Happy Same issue with Pusha, where did I mention Bundesliga? It's about EPL from 2-4 years ago vs. the current one Very Happy
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Post by pUsHa Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:28 pm

babun1024 wrote:
pUsHa wrote:Bayern scored 2 lucky goals against City ... and you call that the decline of the premier league !?

Ferguson experimented again with the squad and now its the end of the world , lol .

I bet my avatar and sig for half a year that english teams will go futher than teh german ones :coffee:
Moment kid, a basic question, where did I mention Bundesliga teams? The thread is about EPL and the teams I mentioned Very Happy
You could get your off topic....post... somewhere else Very Happy

Cant call the fall of a league without putting a bet including the so ever growing league soon to be the best :coffee:
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Post by Doc Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:31 pm

I don't see the decline as the German tends to make it out to be Very Happy Just not too savoury results on English teams' part Very Happy I do agree that Arsenal isn't in the best of shape to really compete for any UCL glory Very Happy but I don't think the fans really expect much this season Very Happy

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Post by Babun Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:32 pm

pUsHa wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
pUsHa wrote:Bayern scored 2 lucky goals against City ... and you call that the decline of the premier league !?

Ferguson experimented again with the squad and now its the end of the world , lol .

I bet my avatar and sig for half a year that english teams will go futher than teh german ones :coffee:
Moment kid, a basic question, where did I mention Bundesliga teams? The thread is about EPL and the teams I mentioned Very Happy
You could get your off topic....post... somewhere else Very Happy

Cant call the fall of a league without putting a bet including the so ever growing league soon to be the best :coffee:
Your imagination is very vivid, so vivid that it misses on reality Very Happy Again, off topic... eco smile
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Post by RealGunner Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:32 pm

opta

1 - English teams have won just one of their opening six CL matches between them for the first time since 95/96.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:33 pm

Doc wrote:I don't see the decline as the German tends to make it out to be Very Happy Just not too savoury results on English teams' part Very Happy I do agree that Arsenal isn't in the best of shape to really compete for any UCL glory Very Happy but I don't think the fans really expect much this season Very Happy


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