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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:42 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Average player who is still riding the hype of a couple good performances at 2010 WC......

Those are my thoughts.

As overrated as Mehcelo is he is still leagues above Cacktrao Very Happy

Very disappointed that you did not comment on my Serie A thread Mole Evil or Very Mad

Sorry mate, i went to bed quite early last night because i had an hospital appointment early this morning so i didnt get the chance.....

I'll take a look now and comment on it.

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Post by jibers Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:44 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Average player who is still riding the hype of a couple good performances at 2010 WC......

Those are my thoughts.

As overrated as Mehcelo is he is still leagues above Cacktrao Very Happy

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Post by Fenris Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:47 pm

Magricos wrote: He's a good player though but I think we should wait until he plays more matches for us before we judge him.

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Post by baresi Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:11 pm

If my club paid 30+M for an unneeded defender, I would expect miracles from him, not wait and hope for improvement, but if he was that type of players I guess RM would have paid 50+M for him especially that he is a portugese.
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Post by Magricos Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:14 pm

:lol!: I don't expect miracles from him when he is playing as a CM.

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Post by Sushi Master Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:27 pm

I'm just glad Bayern didn't buy him.

I'm not sure if he's a flop yet, but I don't see how he's going to perform by constantly switching positions and I can see him being benched once Kheds and Sahin are fit.
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Post by buddytaller Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:54 pm

I think he's a good back up for Marcelo, he's a better defender but a poorer going forward. He offers a lot of options to the team, he did quite well in the Super Cup against Barcelona in midfield and bar the last two games he's been very impressive for Madrid.

Again Marcelo was the only natural left full back in the whole Madrid team, it doesn't hurt to have another top quality full back as back up, Coentrao was the most in demand full back in the last transfer window after a very impressive season with Benfica. Chelsea, Bayern and a host of other clubs were chasing him, he hasn't suddenly turned bad.

Marca and their knee jerking again, I remember how they treated Benzema and Higuain some seasons back, I wouldn't read too much into what they write.
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Post by Adit Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:58 pm

I dont think that was unnecessary transfer.

We had no back up LB for marcelo,an injury to marcelo and our season screwed.Now we have one of the best LBs in the world if not the best young LB.

Problem is due to injuries he played out of position all his matches,not a fair way to judge any players.is it? may be for madrid players lol.
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Post by hrealmadrid Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:10 pm

As a supporter this signing embarrasses me. Unfortunately I don't think backup can be used as a valid excuse.
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Post by baresi Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:13 pm

Anyway he is injured now and will miss next game with Pepe.
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Post by alexjanosik Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:20 pm

Barca paid 30 mil for Alves.I think the fee rose to 40 mil with trophies and appearances.
But every single Barca fan will tell you that he has been worth every single penny.Infact even if the club had to pay 50 mil it would still have been worth it.
He is that damn good.
So who knows.Maybe in time Coentrao will be worth it.
But then again he is no Alves.Not even close.
The only defenders I would pay 30 mil for are Vidic and Marcelo.The latter is a gem of a player and I dont see why Madrid had to pay so much for a backup.

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Post by The Madrid One Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:23 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Marca "He has failed a winger, midfielder and wingback"

Ben Hayward "Coentrao not working for Real Madrid"


I understand that it is only 4 games in (including CL) but in 3 of those games he has put in some poor performances. The only good game he had was against Zaragoza in which we won 6-0, but that was hardly a challenge.

You have to take into account the fact that he was bought for around the same price as Fabregas and is now the second most expensive defender in football histor, but was it really worth it? Will Real Madrid regret it? Or will he prove all doubters wrong?

Imo when Sahin is fit he will only see time coming off the bench.

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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:28 pm

He plays off position. To ask him being successful at midfield is like asking CR to turn into uber-defender. Real better sell Coentrao before fin. fair play, while they can still get 3/4 or 2/3 of his original price. I believe in Coentrao and wish him success.
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Post by guest7 Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:34 pm

It was a stupid deal and the only reason was becouse someone convinced Mou putting a LB at CM is a good idea :facepalm:
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Post by billy_gr Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:38 pm

Maybe it was his idea…Wink
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Post by guest7 Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:41 pm

billy_gr wrote:Maybe it was his idea…Wink

Then he should pay real madrid 30m for being dumb :facepalm:
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Post by Adit Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:45 pm

or because Khedia,Sahin,Granero all were injured and lass has no preseason so he was forced to do that way? HELL NOOO
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:46 pm

The Madrid One wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Marca "He has failed a winger, midfielder and wingback"

Ben Hayward "Coentrao not working for Real Madrid"


I understand that it is only 4 games in (including CL) but in 3 of those games he has put in some poor performances. The only good game he had was against Zaragoza in which we won 6-0, but that was hardly a challenge.

You have to take into account the fact that he was bought for around the same price as Fabregas and is now the second most expensive defender in football histor, but was it really worth it? Will Real Madrid regret it? Or will he prove all doubters wrong?

Imo when Sahin is fit he will only see time coming off the bench.

:facepalm:

Elaborate rather than just using so much effort for clicking on a simile.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:47 pm

I would have been happy to keep Sarabia for back up in the wings, I would have been happy to promote Alex and cover for CM (imo better than using Coentrao) and I would have been happy to promote Nacho to back up Marcelo.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:46 pm

let him play LB and experiment with marcelo as a RB or he will flop. he is no CM.

but on the other hand i wouldnt mind him if he was part of a 3 man midfield

coentrao--xabi--sahin

that could work, but if he continues to be utiliized in a double pivot i say yes he will flop.

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Post by Ganso Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:51 pm

Stupid move not only from Madrid,but specially from Coentrao.Should have stayed at Benfica.A club who actually needed him would come in no time.
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Post by buddytaller Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:56 pm

How can it be a stupid move by Madrid? Coentrao is more defensively solid than Marcelo, and in matches when he's needed to fill in, he can easily slot in. Coentrao is a quality player and was worth every cent Madrid paid for him, but he needs time, I'd rather have a quality player to replace Marcelo when he gets injured/suspended/ or plays badly in a match.
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Post by Ganso Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:11 pm

buddytaller wrote:How can it be a stupid move by Madrid? Coentrao is more defensively solid than Marcelo, and in matches when he's needed to fill in, he can easily slot in. Coentrao is a quality player and was worth every cent Madrid paid for him, but he needs time, I'd rather have a quality player to replace Marcelo when he gets injured/suspended/ or plays badly in a match.
Quality players like Coentrao should start,not be a sub/play in a few games.And he is definitely not worth 30M.

Just my 2 cents
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Post by The Messiah Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:13 pm

buddytaller wrote:How can it be a stupid move by Madrid? Coentrao is more defensively solid than Marcelo, and in matches when he's needed to fill in, he can easily slot in. Coentrao is a quality player and was worth every cent Madrid paid for him, but he needs time, I'd rather have a quality player to replace Marcelo when he gets injured/suspended/ or plays badly in a match.

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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:17 pm

Buddytaller, 30 m sub? Give me moar!
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Post by Ganso Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:18 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:Buddytaller, 30 m sub? Give me moar!
not even as a starter hes worth 30M imo....
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