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Post by Adit Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:29 pm

China is still very closer to communism,they are far from a capital country.The Chinese government still controls major aspects of the economy and society. For example, just about every Chinese bank is state owned, so the government decides which businesses and individuals will get the most favorable loans. The domestic media are entirely state owned as well and offer uniformly favorable political coverage. Perhaps the biggest vestige of classical communism is the fact that every square inch of land in the country still belongs to the government

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Post by Sushi Master Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:30 pm

As I said, communism disguised as a capitalism.

In other words, they want the same power, but conceed the communist economic model does not work Laughing

Not something Marx or Lenin would preach.


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Post by Ali Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:30 pm

you think Communism is good? go live in a communist state and lets see what you think
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Post by Swanhends Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:32 pm

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Tell us the story of how China has overthrown the Boureoisie, comrade!
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Post by Adit Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:32 pm

ali8775 wrote:you think Communism is good? go live in a communist state and lets see what you think
I live under a communist state,im still alive.
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Post by Adit Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:35 pm

China is industrialized in the essence of communism ,having a chikings or american company over there doesnt mean they are capitals,they obviously are liberalized but its far from a capitalist country and build in the essence of communism.
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Post by Adit Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:36 pm

Sushi Master wrote:As I said, communism disguised as a capitalism.

In other words, they want the same power, but conceed the communist economic model does not work Laughing

Not something Marx or Lenin would preach.
Agreed on that china is definitely liberalized but their foundation is still communism.As i said about land and banking sectors.
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Post by Vibe Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:37 pm

As an offspring of a politically powerful family which overthrew communism in Serbia,I have to say we are not sure whether the democrats are an improvement.Tito where are you...
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Post by Swanhends Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:48 pm

Adit wrote:China is industrialized in the essence of communism ,having a chikings or american company over there doesnt mean they are capitals

actually thats exactly what it means...
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Post by Jonathan28 Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:49 pm

Socalism has its major flaws, but the few benefits of it are better then any benefit I can think of from capitalism.
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Post by Abramovich Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:54 pm

Adit wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:Communism is a big fail, anyways. I can tell you personally since I'm living it.
It aint,you gotta live in a proper communist country.Look at china,the state i live is (a state in india) is ruled by communist gov. Everything is fine and its even much better than those capitals.

The difference in money between the rich and the poor is far higher in capital system.

Wait what your Indian?? affraid
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Post by Sushi Master Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:59 pm

Adit wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:As I said, communism disguised as a capitalism.

In other words, they want the same power, but conceed the communist economic model does not work Laughing

Not something Marx or Lenin would preach.
Agreed on that china is definitely liberalized but their foundation is still communism.As i said about land and banking sectors.
I still don't see how India is considered communist.

I can tell you living in a REAL communist country, not half assed as you call it, that it's a pain in the ass. Government constantly grabbing land? Government constantly seizing small and large business for state purposes, thus spooking any future investors with money, job opportunities and stunting growth? PDVSA, CANTV, ENELVEN (Venezuela's only oil exporter, telecomunications and electric companies respectively) all government owned and in shit condition compared to when they were privately owned? Daily blackouts, some taking as long as 6 to 8 hours, along with a year of electric rationing because the government did not maintain our hydroelectric dams? Imagine EVERY DAY your city being without power for 3 hours, rotating weekly depending on the sector. Along the country, with frakking 40 degree weather.

20% annual inflation? Complete lack of freedom of speech? Silly censorship, be it TV, cinema, games because the government cannot take critique? Corruption so bad I think of cops as burglars with badges? Useless military spending in buying AKs, Sukhois and other toys, when there are much more drastric needs at hand? Handing out oil to other nations in exchange for "friendship"? Adopting an anti American approach, thus turning us into the bad boys of the region? Totalitarian government with no dreams of backing down any time soon? No jobs available for educated youth so we're forced to work for slave wages and slave work?

I could go on all frakking day, but to tell me communist regimes work is spitting on my face and kicking me in the balls. China even in the future will be a great economic power (due to a totally capitalistic approach) but will still have it's population under the police state mentality. And it's a shitty mentality to have, believe me.

Socalism has its major flaws, but the few benefits of it are better then any benefit I can think of from capitalism.
F-yes. Healthcare is a completely awesome thing every country should invest in. I don't say every country has to adapt a total left wing approach, neither a right wing one, because extremes just frakk everything up. There needs to be a balance.
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Post by che Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:23 pm

i imagine adit is going through adolescence and wants to fight "the man" after seeing some che guevara quotes while not having any idea on what communism really is...
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Post by TalkingReckless Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:51 pm

i have so much Communist stuff back home in Pakistan, Bought tons of Mao, Communism posters.

i have a few here in US with me let me take some pics and post Smile
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Post by fatman123 Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:02 pm

Communism, where all are equal but some are more equal then others
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:12 pm

I once got kicked outta class for making fun of some communist girl sitting next to me. 3 day suspension followed :facepalm:

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Post by Swanhends Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:36 pm

Sepi wrote:I once got kicked outta class for making fun of some communist girl sitting next to me. 3 day suspension followed :facepalm:

School Administration was filled with fascist tyrants :coffee:
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Post by milanfan7 Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:48 pm

Communism is like a teacher giving each student the class average as a grade instead of his own grade. Absolutely stupid.
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:41 am

bhends wrote:
Sepi wrote:I once got kicked outta class for making fun of some communist girl sitting next to me. 3 day suspension followed :facepalm:

School Administration was filled with fascist tyrants :coffee:

reminds me of mods of a certain football forum :coffee:

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Post by KMD Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:53 am

i like the idea of it, but its a fail... nothing better than democracy yet!

as for china, they are communist just because its easier to control population that way.... they can devalue their currency and block google... and they are nowhere a best country in the world, got a long way to go!



some war song....

but we all got to appreciate communism, for USSR and kicking nazis in the ass
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Post by pUsHa Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:53 am

Death To All ... Power is sh1t ... Capitalists and Comunists fight for their own interest not for the country !
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Post by Senor Penguin Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:59 am

Every extreme is crap. Communism could work with certain regulations but overall it's too extreme to work. Capitalism without restrictions would be hell too.

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Post by Zealous Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:24 am

What it all boils down to is that so long as assholes and weak willed people form a large part of the world's population then it won't really matter what political systems are used.

Utopia is a nice ideal but it's starts with every individual person first.
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:45 am

We haven't seen proper Communism yet anyway. No country has yet managed to implement Marxist Communism, all we've had is dictatorships with some vaguely socialist rhetoric.

Even Leninism is already so far removed from the teachings of Marx and Engels, it's not even funny. Don't even start with Mao, he just had a hard-on for murder, he would've taken any excuse he could've got to make himself into a demigod and everyone else into cannon fodder.

So I, as a political scientist, would be highly uncomfortable with saying that it has failed.
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And now have a sip, comrade!
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Post by pUsHa Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:55 am

VivaStPauli wrote:We haven't seen proper Communism yet anyway.

Obviously , because everything was and is a farce only to just control the people ...
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:32 pm

The USSR was not communist!!!

USSR: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics!
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