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Post by Art Morte Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 7:18

A rumour that our next assistant manager will be Sean O'Driscoll, 57, the current manager of England's under-19s.

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Post by McAgger Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 7:24

Laughing Never heard of him, but I thought we got rid of the other fools to get someone who actually has some top class experience. A u19 coach. WTF scratch
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Post by iftikhar Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 7:47

James wrote:
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RB - RCB - LCB - LB
RCM - CM - LCM
AM - AM
CF
Yes, I also agree with Cujo that such formation is very useful and flexible too. If we replace the AMs with the like of Origi, Ibe and Markovic it becomes 433. If one of the AMs (Bob  Very Happy , I like that) moves further up, it becomes 442.

James wrote:- The 3 CM spots, I imagine is for 3 box-to-box CMs. Rodgers doesn't seem like he likes DMs so I can see Milner, Hendo, and Can being the starters here. With Joe Schmoe and Lucas back ups. Very combative midfield but I don't know how much creativity or composure, or actual high IQ defensive coverage and play we'd get out of this lot. I agree with Sepp that the 3 players need to have different skill sets in midfield. Lucas is a true DM, I would start him since we got noone else. Kovacic would be massive because he brings something to CM we really don't have. The 3rd CM could be one of Hendo/Milner/Can. But like I said, I see all 3 starting.
Nice analysis. Just two things, firstly as I pointed earlier Emre is at crossroads and might become a true DM. In any case I see him playing deepest of the three and provide cover for the back-line. I guess at some point in a game it may look like

Skrtel----------Sakho
---------Emre---------
Clyne----------Moreno

Regarding creativity, I guess Rodgers is depending on the FBs and AMs. Also, we have seen Coutinho dropping deep and releasing the balls.

All we need now is a quality ST/CF.


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Post by Art Morte Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 7:47

He's got a lot of experience, more than 600 games as a manager in the Football League, although nothing in the Prem. I'm cool with it if he's the one. It's only assistant manager anyway.
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Post by Helmer Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 9:22

never heard of him, I dont get the reason behind getting him ! We should be getting who has experience in Europe and who has worked under other good coaches like Mourinho, Rafa !

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Post by Red Alert Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 9:59

Like Rodgers? Laughing

Yeah, would rather not tbh.

If you want a real manager that knows how to manage you hire a proven winner. No more "potential" and hope for the best shit.
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Post by BusterLfc Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 16:22


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Clyne - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Lucas - Kovacic
Coutinho - Firmino
Jovetic

probably isn't happening but would like to see this
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Post by Red Alert Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 10:48

I like your fomation. And I like most of the team. But...
Jovetic is as injury prone as Sturridge, but I do agree that he's all class. Who else would you look for?
Kovacic is also class and that's why we're not signing him this window.
Lucas isn't rated highly by Rodgers because he's a fool.
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Post by Helmer Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 11:03

who knows we can use Lucas to get Kovacic hmm

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Post by Red Alert Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 11:24

Get rid of one of our best/key players to replace him for a kid that needs a few years of development to reach his level? Barring no injuries of course.

Yeah, sounds like you should put your application when Rodgers inevitable gets the sack. You should then hire El D as your assistant and be best friends forever and ever. Smile
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Post by Helmer Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 11:38

and you should stop with nonsense and stupid posts !
I have always (from 3-4 windows) said that we need to keep Lucas (also Sterling) at all costs, in fact now when we have lost Gerrard but Lucas needs to play every game to come to his best. If Rodgers is not planning to play Lucas as a starter every week, the player will be wasted unless new manager comes and rates Lucas highly.

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Post by Red Alert Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 11:44

What's nonsense?

And what stupid posts? Laughing

"Always wanted too" *literally 2 posts up* "should offer Lucas out" Laughing
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Post by Helmer Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 12:13

I explained the reasons, Lucas needs to play every game to come to his best otherwise it would be stupid not use him and we will see in first 6 months if Lucas has place here and also if Rodgers survives.

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Post by iftikhar Sat 4 Jul 2015 - 16:48

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Oh I see, you guys have been lurking in our section :whistle: .
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Post by McAgger Sat 4 Jul 2015 - 22:15

Lucas is better than Can at DM. So he should definitely be starting if they want to call it a full strength side.
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Post by Curtinho Sun 5 Jul 2015 - 4:56

I think that's debatable. I think Lucas is a bit overrated on this board. He reads the game well, but his physical tools are declining and cause him to make a lot of fouls in bad situations, and he offers absolutely nothing offensively. I'd rather have Can or Allen (when healthy, and on form) there.
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Post by Art Morte Sun 5 Jul 2015 - 7:58

Lucas is still decent, but gets too much praise for just doing his basic job. I'd rather play Can at DM, he has much more ability to go above call of duty in that role.
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Post by Red Alert Sun 5 Jul 2015 - 10:39

Emre is a box-to-box player ffs.

He should be compared to Henderson/Milner.

And none of those players above are better than Lucas when all are in form. lmao
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Post by Art Morte Sun 5 Jul 2015 - 17:39

We're comparing players for the DM position. Henderson or Milner aren't going to be playing it, Lucas will and Can very well might. Yes, Emre is more box-to-box type, but I think I prefer that to Lucas, who never contributes anything outside of his comfort zone. Mind you, Lucas can be very very good in his comfort zone, but his form hasn't been anything exceptional for a while now and I for one believe the way forward is to play Can instead of him.

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Post by Helmer Tue 7 Jul 2015 - 14:37

well I really dont care if Lucas doesnt contribute to attacking play. He does play nice passes but not so regularly. The reason I wanted Lucas to stay is because of his experience, that Brazillian connection with our possilbly best players in next season, Coutinho and Firmino.

But I dont want to overrate him as best player or some shit. He may regain his form only if he plays regularly. But as said, if Rodgers is not going to use him as definite starter and Can as his understudy, Lucas as a player is going to get wasted on the bench.

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Post by iftikhar Tue 7 Jul 2015 - 15:02

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:well I really dont care if Lucas doesnt contribute to attacking play. He does play nice passes but not so regularly. The reason I wanted Lucas to stay is because of his experience, that Brazillian connection with our possilbly best players in next season, Coutinho and Firmino.

But I dont want to overrate him as best player or some shit. He may regain his form only if he plays regularly. But as said, if Rodgers is not going to use him as definite starter and Can as his understudy, Lucas as a player is going to get wasted on the bench.
We will play between 50 and 60 games. Not only both (Lucas and Emre) will have enough games, both are actually needed. Only MF player who seems disposable is Allen.
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Post by Red Alert Wed 8 Jul 2015 - 10:50

Art Morte wrote:We're comparing players for the DM position. Henderson or Milner aren't going to be playing it, Lucas will and Can very well might. Yes, Emre is more box-to-box type, but I think I prefer that to Lucas, who never contributes anything outside of his comfort zone. Mind you, Lucas can be very very good in his comfort zone, but his form hasn't been anything exceptional for a while now and I for one believe the way forward is to play Can instead of him.



Yeah, let's just play three box-to-box midfielders in Can, Henderson and Milner. They might not offer much going forward or defensively, but my god will they outrun the opposition!
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Post by mr-r34 Wed 8 Jul 2015 - 11:01

4-2-3-1 Please.
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Post by Helmer Wed 8 Jul 2015 - 13:08

I think it is going to be frustrating if BR does not settle with formation early in the next season !

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Post by Curtinho Wed 8 Jul 2015 - 15:59

A 4-2-3-1 seems ideal for our personnel. Though it will be kind of tough with Milner supposedly coming in to play midfield. Though the German youth team coach said that Can was assured he would be allowed to take over Gerrard's spot (which I assume means in the DM slot of a 4-3-3).

Clyne - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Can
Henderson - Milner
Lallana - Firmino - Coutinho

I could live with this. Plenty of cover, and really easy to change into other formations with personnel changes. However, I still think with Firmino and Coutinho our best option is something of a 4-3-2-1 ala:

Henderson - Can - Milner
Firmino - Coutinho
STRIKER

It optimizes the space that Firmino and Coutinho have to either cut out wide or come centrally, and it allows a midfield of those three to work with a little more space to the outside.
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Post by iftikhar Wed 8 Jul 2015 - 18:26

Cujo wrote:
Henderson - Can - Milner
Firmino - Coutinho
STRIKER
I'm pretty sure these six will play most frequently. However, whether they will operate as 4321 (as above), 433 (the Brazilians operating wide) or 443 (Firmino as SS) remains to be seen.

Heil wrote:I think it is going to be frustrating if BR does not settle with formation early in the next season !
Agreed.
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