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Post by McAgger Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:22 pm

And like Arq pointed out, he didn't get nearly as much hate like Downing, Carroll, Adam, or Cole were getting. Because we knew he had the tools to become good and live up to the fee.

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Post by donttreadonred Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:14 pm

For much of last year, we criticized Hendo's use. He's just not a great winger. Put him in CM/AM and he improves. Rodgers has taken him and removed him from the spotlight and worked with him on seeing space and his attacking movement, and you begin to see performances like thos against Norwich, Sunderland and QPR. Of course, his goal yesterday drew attention to his already good performances. However, LFC supporters (at least those I speak with hear and elsewhere) have been very optimistic about his improvement this season under Rodgers. Msot were gutted not to see him start against United... I can't think of a better compliment.

Regarding yesterday, Hendo's fluid movement and accounting for the attacking moves of Suarez an Johnson was what impressed me the most. He saw the holes open and he filled them immediately. With Suarez constantly drifting in behind Sturridge, Hendo spent much a large amount of the match working as a makeshift LAM (think of the wide player in a standard 4-2-3-1). In this position, he was often working the overlap with Johnson. See the attacking formation below (taken from an eplindex.com article on Liverpool's tactics with and w/out Sturridge).

Hendo is the more advanced CM role and the one the ends up on the left side of the midfield...
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In this creative set-up, it's very important that the player in Hendo's role be able to read the game and uphold his positional responsibilities. He was able to do that yesterday. If he can manage that against the bigger teams, then he can be very valuable to this new tactical approach.
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Post by RedOranje Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:02 pm

You all do realise that it is possible to praise one player without attacking/criticising others, right?
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:19 pm

RedOranje wrote:You all do realise that it is possible to praise one player without attacking/criticising others, right?

And suddenly,
the Ronaldo v Messi discussions were no more
silence befell the forums
there was only peace.
The end.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:21 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
RedOranje wrote:You all do realise that it is possible to praise one player without attacking/criticising others, right?

And suddenly,
the Ronaldo v Messi discussions were no more
silence befell the forums
there was only peace.
The end.
Who are Ronaldo & Messi? :coffee:
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Post by RedOranje Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:45 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
RedOranje wrote:You all do realise that it is possible to praise one player without attacking/criticising others, right?

And suddenly,
the Ronaldo v Messi discussions were no more
silence befell the forums
there was only peace.
The end.
Opposing fans will always bicker and fight like spoiled siblings... it's just part of the sport.

But fans of a club attacking players at said club as a means to praise others is hollow and a bit galling.
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Post by Red Alert Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:40 am

Speak for yourselves, I havn't said one bad thing about Hendo. We may have over paid but the quality is there. He's going to be massive for England partnering up with Wilshere, I feel those two will accomodate each other best.
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Post by Highburied Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:14 pm

ynwa wrote:Speak for yourselves, I havn't said one bad thing about Hendo. We may have over paid but the quality is there. He's going to be massive for England partnering up with Wilshere, I feel those two will accomodate each other best.

Cleverly says Hi!

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Post by TheRedStag Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:20 pm

No mole hate since the bump? affraid scratch Very Happy
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:29 pm

No Liverpool fan respects my opinion anymore so i don't bother :coffee:
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Post by TheRedStag Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:36 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No Liverpool fan respects my opinion (on anything Liverpool related) anymore so i don't bother :coffee:

fixed.

Took you long enough!
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:31 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Henderson? Cleverley is thrice the player than that mackem dogleash signing! Even James Tomkins playing CM is superior to Hendo! Even the Newcastle Legend Williamson playing higher up is better then him! I'm better than him!

What the hell is this Mole?

Fact is,Mole you're just a Liverpool hater so anything based on Liverpool we will not listen too. :coffee:
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Post by TheRedStag Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:34 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Henderson? Cleverley is thrice the player than that mackem dogleash signing! Even James Tomkins playing CM is superior to Hendo! Even the Newcastle Legend Williamson playing higher up is better then him! I'm better than him!

What the hell is this Mole?

Fact is,Mole you're just a Liverpool hater so anything based on Liverpool we will not listen too. :coffee:

Its OK. He says he's stopped. Proud

Let the past be. :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:04 pm

Arq that isn't me, for one thing the english is far too good rofl
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Post by McAgger Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:50 am

Reading through this thread is bunch of lolz. Gil embarrassing himself with McEarchen comments.

Easily worth the 16m paid for him. Every game he's even better it's insane. And so much passion :bow:

>>> Cleverly
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Post by McAgger Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:13 am

RUN HENDO RUN

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Defines him perfectly btw
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Post by Nishankly Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:30 am

Im pleased with his progress, Improving every game.
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Post by Abramovich Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:01 pm

Still a scrub, hope he never wears the 3 lions again.
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Post by RedOranje Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:46 pm

Abramovich wrote:Still a scrub, hope he never wears the 3 lions again.
Coming from a "Japanese Dortmund supporter"(or a dishonest Chelsea fan from England)... I doubt anyone really cares what you hope for with regards to an LFC player.
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Post by Grooverider Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:12 pm

Abramovich wrote:Still a scrub, hope he never wears the 3 lions again.
i agree, running around like a headless chicken does not define a 'good player' Liverpool fans are deluded.

Cleverly is much better as he is more creative and has better positional play, where as Henderson looks clueless
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Post by RedOranje Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:19 pm

Yes, that's exactly what we saw in the Liverpool vs United match... except the opposite.

It's astounding how often people write off legitimate work in opening up space, running channels, pressing in defense, and covering for other players as "headless/clueless running." It's not the player that's clueless, it's the spectators who can't understand just how much important work he's doing.
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Post by Swanhends Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:58 pm

1st Page:

Swanhends wrote:The next James Milner
nailed it :dance:
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Post by Art Morte Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:36 pm

I don't really sign that argument that Henderson's stand out ability is his stamina. He is a properly good footballer with several good skills and on top of that he's got a good engine.
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Post by Grooverider Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:44 pm

RedOranje wrote:Yes, that's exactly what we saw in the Liverpool vs United match... except the opposite.

It's astounding how often people write off legitimate work in opening up space, running channels, pressing in defense, and covering for other players as "headless/clueless running."  It's not the player that's clueless, it's the spectators who can't understand just how much important work he's doing.
wrong, he's not doing any important work at all. I've seen countless times when Lucas or Gerrard have had to mop up his mess because he has been either out of position or lost somewhere on the park. Countless liverpool fans have also commented on how this man is nothing but a liability when it comes to his defensive duties.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:03 pm

^ LOOOL....I wonder why our win % ratio under BR is significantly higher when Henderson starts. He gives balance to midfield and creates space for others with his movement. Not to mention he is the best in pressing in the entire team. I think he'll get 10 goals this season.

grooverider my mate...soon you'll be outed for who you truly are Smile

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Post by RedOranje Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:47 pm

Please stay on topic.
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