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Post by futbol_bill Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:28 pm

That’s not what I recall. I can safely predict that Thiago will be part of Euro team. What I can’t predict is that he will be a definitive starter as there is competition for every position except for Ramos! That said Thiago is a very good CM, but he is not necessarily the best.

This team is not as good as our teams that won two Euros and a WC, but the depth is much stronger than those teams. I remember the first Euro win when the starters were great, but there was a huge difference to the backups. The backups improved in the next two championships in that there were 2-5 backups that were capable of starting. This team, as I said earlier has depth of 2-4 players at every position except CB.

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Post by Winter is Coming Thu May 13, 2021 3:53 am

Laporte has become Spanish citizen and will be representing Spain at Euros 2021.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 13, 2021 8:39 am

Good for him. Ridiculous how comprehensively the France NT rejected him.

Then again, they have about 25 top CBs so they will be fine too. Spain on the other hand are in desperate need of any quality they can get.
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Post by Myesyats Tue May 25, 2021 1:02 pm

@futbol_bill what do you think about Lucho's selection with no RM players, no Canales, no Aspas?
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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 25, 2021 1:37 pm

He is a genius of finding unknown talent or rediscovering forgotten talent. Most of our previous call-ups have either been injured and have played little this year i.e. Ramos and Carvajal or their level of play has dropped substantially i.e. Isco and Asensio. As to Canales, he does fit into the first category and I suspect he was a near miss, but to be frank I do see Koke, Ruiz and Thiago above him and I just don’t know enough about Pedri. The 2 spots are for DMs. And as to Aspas, he isn’t as good as the others. Note my fellow Asturian only select 24 (he was allowed 26). If he went for another forward, Aspas may have made it there.

But at end od day, the talent is below what France has put together.


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Post by rincon Tue May 25, 2021 1:42 pm

Strange not to see Luis Alberto when there are players like Pedri, also who is Eric Garcia?
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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 25, 2021 2:02 pm

Rincon, don’t know if you are kidding or not! Eric Garcia is A CM at Man City on his way apparently to Barca, along with Aguero.

And who the heck is Luis Alberto?
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Post by rincon Tue May 25, 2021 2:36 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:Rincon, don’t know if you are kidding or not! Eric Garcia is A CM at Man City on his way apparently to Barca, along with Aguero.

And who the heck is Luis Alberto?

Not kidding, no clue who this player was. From google I see he is a CB that has 6 appearances in the PL. So the last defender in City's pecking order Laughing

You asking who Luis Alberto I guess sums up why he isn't in the team, not followed by Spanish press I guess. He is better than Pedri absolutely, and that Fabian for that matter, although the profile is different. He is Lazio's playmaker that got some 15 assists last year.
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Post by Casciavit Tue May 25, 2021 6:08 pm

Eric Garcia is really good on the ball and reads the play well, but he's small, slow, and weak. Can't say I'm exactly a big fan of his. He was primarily benched this season because he wants to go back to Barcelona, but it's not like he was going to start ahead of Dias/Stones/Laporte either. The few times he did play he looked pretty garbage. Laughing

Apparently, he's a football nerd so coaches like him. Honestly if he ends up becoming a starter at Barca he'll likely partner Laporte as a starting CB for Spain too. Lucho might be thinking giving him the Euros as an experience of a senior international tournament before the WC could be beneficial for his development if he does end up fulfilling his potential at Barca.
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu May 27, 2021 3:34 am

Eric Garcia is hot garbage. There’s no way Lucho can justify that lol.

Also, he called up 24 players when the limit is 26 if I’m not mistaken?
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Post by sportsczy Thu May 27, 2021 7:42 pm

@FennecFox7 wrote:Eric Garcia is hot garbage. There’s no way Lucho can justify that lol.

Also, he called up 24 players when the limit is 26 if I’m not mistaken?

Really??? Why would he call up 24 when he can have 26 lol
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu May 27, 2021 8:19 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@FennecFox7 wrote:Eric Garcia is hot garbage. There’s no way Lucho can justify that lol.

Also, he called up 24 players when the limit is 26 if I’m not mistaken?

Really??? Why would he call up 24 when he can have 26 lol


It’s something I read, though I’ll have to verify it and get back to this post.

My question exactly sports.. there’s some clear anti Madrid bias. Eric Garcia seriously does suck. And even then, if it’s 24 men being called up then nacho who was lights out this season, and even Ramos, who is their captain deserves to go, even if he’s not playing every game.
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Post by rincon Thu May 27, 2021 9:02 pm

The limit is indeed 26, expanded due to the covid season
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Post by Doc Fri May 28, 2021 1:15 am

If it weren't for Covid, the anti-Madrid hysteria would have been at a fever pitch in the Madrid media as it is Lucho.

Buuuuuut, outside of Nacho and Lucas (who is injured), Madrid had any players really worth the call up?
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri May 28, 2021 12:08 pm

The selfish me want all our players to rest this summer. They have been overplayed and are uber exhausted. My wish would've been for Kroos, Casemiro, Modric and Benz not to be called up either
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Post by Winter is Coming Fri May 28, 2021 11:28 pm

@Doc wrote:If it weren't for Covid, the anti-Madrid hysteria would have been at a fever pitch in the Madrid media as it is Lucho.

Buuuuuut, outside of Nacho and Lucas (who is injured), Madrid had any players really worth the call up?


Did Garcia, Alba and Busquet deserve call ups?
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Post by Doc Sat May 29, 2021 1:19 pm

Busquets, no. Not for his performances over the course of two years. Alba, yes as there is still quality left in him but I have no real idea who is the Garcia fella.

Not absorbing Lucho of sheer bias (he definitely has) but I'm probably one of the few Madrid fans that honestly don't see the big controversy in no players from the club being selected.
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Post by futbol_bill Sat May 29, 2021 4:09 pm

Luis Enrique explained why Ramos wasn’t selected and said it was regrettable. Nacho was a close miss just as was I. Martinez! There is no bias here, he has just stopped relying on both Madrid and Barca for majority of team. In case you have been noticing, both of those teams are not anywhere close to the dominating teams they used to be and in particular most of the Spaniards on those teams have been disappointing.

IMO, My fellow Asturian has been exceptional in finding or rediscovering Spanish talent.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat May 29, 2021 4:43 pm

Luis Enrique called Eric Garcia… any reasons he mentioned not to have called Ramos or Nacho are just bullshit at this point
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Post by sportsczy Sat May 29, 2021 5:31 pm

yeah i mean, other than Ramos who has been injured for months, is there anyone on Madrid that Spain NT is going to miss much?

That's like me complaining between Lucas Digne and Hernandez (AC Milan). Decent players both of them... but I mean who cares. It's not that different between either of them.
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Post by Myesyats Sat May 29, 2021 11:23 pm

Whats the CB pairing going to be? Laporte and Pau Torres are both left footed arent they?
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:20 am

I dont understand this, both Zidane and Enrique just drops Ramos all of a sudden, cos hes been injured? Hes recovered now ready to go? Not that Spain is full of top class CBs nowadays ready to step up? Or am I wrong?
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:39 pm

I guess you didn’t hear his presentation of list. Ramos played only 6 games in 2021! That the reason pure and simple. Bear in mind that I am a huge fan if Ramos. this whole nonsense of anti Madrid bias is ridiculous. This is the same guy (supposedly Barca bias) that named his first team with 7 Madridista and almost none from Barca. He has gone out of his way to find, rediscover Spanish talent that are playing well.

And although I don’t know Eric Garcia, folks on here obviously have a different opinion than Barca who now view him as thrir next Pique! Let’s wait and see before making these statements.
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:19 am

Thanks bill, I havent followed NT under just now... almost no one from Barca just goes to show the state of things with us lol....

Still though any big name player who has the ability and history with the NT team tend to get selected in big tournaments, despite him playing little, I would have thought he'd still be selected, even just purely from a experience and influence POV. Maybe they realize hes unwilling to step aside since hes aging and may create a negative factor, or something similar, pure guessing.
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