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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 17, 2016 7:51 pm

Art Morte wrote:Agreed with nicky boy, that team looks all neat passing and zero end-product. A glaring lack of proven goalscorers. Maybe they can get a lot of 1-0 wins, I dunno.



Art, they will score more goals and of course win more games than your England!!! LOL

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue May 17, 2016 7:53 pm

Art is Finnish hmm
Don't think they even have a NT hmm
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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 17, 2016 8:00 pm

Hans, I believe he was referring to injury prone!! As I said San Jose provides the same as Javi once did. Javi made it before because he could play DLM as well as CB, but issue now (besides his injury record) is he is much more of a CB now than DLM. Right now that role is being played by San Jose and he has played both roles with NT very well this past year. The versatility is important since it will allow Del Bosque to drop either Bruno or Bartra and go with an extra forward.

@Hal, Azpili is the alternative to Alba at LB. He is an interesting player. Originally a RB, Mourinho coverted him to left and at this point, he isn't even considered as a RB!!! If he was, Del Bosque might consider going with only 3 laterals to free up an extra spot for forwards, but at this stage, both Carvajal and JuanFran are too good to be dropped. Azipli is good, much better defensively than Alba, but Alba is same to NT re offense as Marcelo is to Madrid.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 17, 2016 8:01 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Agreed with nicky boy, that team looks all neat passing and zero end-product. A glaring lack of proven goalscorers. Maybe they can get a lot of 1-0 wins, I dunno.



Sorry my bad, although I'm sure he was one of them touting England the other day!!

Art, they will score more goals and of course win more games than your England!!! LOL
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Post by Casciavit Tue May 17, 2016 8:04 pm

If it's another tourney of tikinaccio Sleep

What are the chances they go with a 4-6-0?
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Post by Art Morte Tue May 17, 2016 8:55 pm

England is my favorite team when Finland aren't in the tournament - hasn't happened too many times yet smoking

Spain's best chance at the Euros is De Gea and their defence, because they won't be scoring many goals.
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Post by futbol Tue May 17, 2016 9:29 pm

This clown VdB has called up Torres all those years when he was absolute shit and now when he is actually in the best form since his prime Liverpool days and scoring goals regularly, he is left out.

Bartra with 4 league starts the entire season called up, Javi Martinez left out.

Casillas still in there.


Clown of a manager.

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Post by McAgger Tue May 17, 2016 9:55 pm

Awful squad. Spain's golden generation got old and this new generation is very meh.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue May 17, 2016 10:03 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Awful squad. Spain's golden generation got old and this new generation is very meh.


Not awful lol. They are still one of the next NTs in the world, not on that all time great level from 08-12 but still...

Even if the likes of Thiago, Isco, Koke are no where near prime Xaviesta or Alonso, they still form one of the best midfield lines around.

What is garbage is their attack. Completely utterly shit. From Villa and Torres to these scrubs rofl
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed May 18, 2016 12:34 am

futbol wrote:This clown VdB has called up Torres all those years when he was absolute shit and now when he is actually in the best form since his prime Liverpool days and scoring goals regularly, he is left out.


LMAO I was wondering the same.

How the hell do you call up 2013 Torres without blinking but you snub 2016 Torres when you don't have a single top alternative Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 18, 2016 2:00 am

Meh, better to give the kids a chance to get some international experience under their belts. Torres' 3 months of good football shouldn't fool anyone, his time is past.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 18, 2016 2:01 am

futbol wrote:This clown VdB has called up Torres all those years when he was absolute shit and now when he is actually in the best form since his prime Liverpool days and scoring goals regularly, he is left out.

Bartra with 4 league starts the entire season called up, Javi Martinez left out.

Casillas still in there.


Clown of a manager.


Laughing

Vicente del Lippi ruining Spain again Proud I can only hope he retains his job into 2018
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Post by sportsczy Wed May 18, 2016 2:39 am

It reminds me a bit of France in 2008 and 2010.... the golden generation is basically out except for a few stragglers on the downside of their prime or just on their downside... and whole lot of either unproven players or meh ones.

Your heart as a Spain fan wants to feel that they'll still be good and contend... but your mind really tells you this team is in transition and you hope that they lose gracefully whenever it happens.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun May 29, 2016 5:04 pm

Lol VDB playing nearly a full u21 team out there. Where are the Barca players scratch
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun May 29, 2016 5:19 pm

Bah Gawd Nolito ffs two golazos. He is going to be huge for Spain at the EC
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 29, 2016 7:32 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Lol VDB playing nearly a full u21 team out there. Where are the Barca players scratch


They have no one good enough for Spain anymore bar Pique
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 29, 2016 7:32 pm

Del Bosque: "We have two days to give the list of 23. From what the doctors tell us [on Carvajal], Bellerín stays."
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Post by futbol Tue May 31, 2016 11:37 am

Cut out the 2 starting midfielders of the CL finalist.
Kept Cesc and Pedro in the squad.

rofl

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Post by Valkyrja Tue May 31, 2016 12:21 pm

Watch VDB ditching Lucas for Pedro Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue May 31, 2016 4:09 pm

Squad list so far:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjxcDY5UUAAYZfX.jpg

The other 4 spots are going to go to Ramos, Juanfran, Koke and Isco

Saul and Lucas to miss out their places to Pedro and Nolito. Next time
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue May 31, 2016 6:22 pm

Lucas makes the final cut while Isco and Saul miss out. Ouch
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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 31, 2016 7:08 pm

Del Bosque has gone the way of most club teams with a 4-3-3 formation, wingers rather than AMs.

He has taken 2 for every position plus a 3rd GK.

It's De Gea (Iker, Rico)
Juan Fran (Bellerin)
Pique (Bartra)
Ramos (San Jose)
Alba (Azpilicueta)
Busquets (Bruno)
Cesc (Koke)
Iniesta (Thiago)
Pedro (Lucas)
Aduriz (Morata)
Silva (Nolito)

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Post by RealGunner Tue May 31, 2016 7:11 pm

So happy for Bellerin.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Tue May 31, 2016 7:23 pm

Poor Saul. There could be an argument for him to start, and he doesn't even make it smh.
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Post by futbol_bill Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:07 pm

So for all of you that ripped the Spanish seleccion, have you watched the two games thus far. LOL we sure have a lack of scoring options!!!

Meanwhile the favorites, at least according to the lot of you, are dropping player after player before the real game s actually begin.

VDB is going with a 4-3-3 formation with wingers instead of the more normal Spanish AMs and today he even switched to a 3-3-4 formation once he put out two DLMs and had two strikers out there with 2 wingers giving lots of scoring options.

This is only warmups, but I still feel your prediction of no scoring options are a way off base.
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Post by futbol_bill Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:08 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:Poor Saul. There could be an argument for him to start, and he doesn't even make it smh.


I would have taken him over Pedro, but it comes down to a choice of wingers vs AMs.
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