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Post by S32TABLANCA Sun May 27, 2012 3:24 pm

Pedro :vagi:

Soldado :vagi:

Juanfran :vagi:

NEGREDO :vagi: :vagi: :vagi:

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Post by BarcaKizz Sun May 27, 2012 3:25 pm

Potential wrote:Pedro has been shit all season, Negredo has been better than him; I don't care how you justify it but his inclusion is a shitty decision.

Yes, because Negredo is a wonderful winger. It doesn't even matter that Negredo's been sh*t too, because they don't even compete for the same spot.

If you wan't to argue for Adrian and Muniain, thats a different matter. I assume he preferred experience. Same reason Torres is there.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Sun May 27, 2012 3:27 pm

Adrian & Soldado Sad
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 3:34 pm

Potential wrote:Pedro has been shit all season, Negredo has been better than him; I don't care how you justify it but his inclusion is a shitty decision.

Pedro offers things that no over Spanish player can and he is a proven big match performer and Negredo and Pedro are not even contention for a spot lol.

Plus Negredo is going so what you bitching about?

The only ones that Pedro stopped from going are Adrian or Munian.

In anycase Soldado should have gone instead of Negredo.

Also Pedro had an awful season? while thats true what about the fabulous Torres? who has been even worse but his inclusion isnt even argued Laughing

Also Juanfran is there because Iraola is injured nothing wrong with that.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun May 27, 2012 3:35 pm

Wait what??? Adrian was left out? :facepalm: GTFO Pedro.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun May 27, 2012 3:35 pm

No one mentioned this but Reina over De Gea lmfao
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 27, 2012 3:37 pm

De Gea should've gone instead of Valdes not Reina.
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Post by Harmonica Sun May 27, 2012 3:38 pm

Ramos. Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 3:39 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:No one mentioned this but Reina over De Gea lmfao

Just example of VDB's bias once he likes you he doesnt let go lmao

Similarly of how difficult it is for someone outside of the VDB goodbook to knock someone inside of the group.

One of his few flaws but its a major one.
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Post by S32TABLANCA Sun May 27, 2012 3:41 pm

De Gea should be with the Olympic squad. I was just really :vagi: by f*cking PEDRO and NEGREDO. IMHO Adrian and Benat should have gone instead.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 3:44 pm

Benat lolwut he's had a good season but calm down Laughing

Pedro is there for the same reason Pique and a few others..... he offers things the others cant and unlike the majority he's a big match GOAT

Yes Adrian should have gone but instead of Torres :coffee:
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Post by S32TABLANCA Sun May 27, 2012 3:46 pm

VDB to drive Spain into the ground in spectacular fashion.
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Post by Khaled Sun May 27, 2012 4:04 pm

Le Samourai wrote:De Gea should've gone instead of Valdes not Reina.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

My Line-up would be:

Casillas
Ramos Javi Pique Alba
Xavi Busquets Iniesta
Silva Llorente Pedro

I know it will never happen... but that's my opinion...

Pedro to score important goals....


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Post by Adit Sun May 27, 2012 4:06 pm

what has pedro done to deserve a start?

If scoring one or two during last game deserves a starting place then Torres deserves it more than pedro lol,at least he scored in CL and not in micky mouse competitions. Laughing\

btw De gea shouldve made it instead of Valdes. What is the point of Valdes there? rather give kids experience..
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Post by Khaled Sun May 27, 2012 4:10 pm

Adit wrote:what has pedro done to deserve a start?

If scoring one or two during last game deserves a starting place then Torres deserves it more than pedro lol,at least he scored in CL and not in micky mouse competitions. Laughing\

btw De gea shouldve made it instead of Valdes. What is the point of Valdes there? rather give kids experience..

Mata and Navas both can play on the wing, but are not finishers... U need someone who can help Llorente upfront, Pedro is the only option... Yes, he didn't have a good season overall cause he was injured 3 times throughout the season, but he's fit now and he's the best option...

lol at De Gea and Reina being better than Valdes !! (nice joke)!!
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Post by vivabarca38 Sun May 27, 2012 4:17 pm

Why are people arguing about Pedro's inclusion when he has more goals than Torres who is shit.In my Opinion this is the best Lineup:
Iker
Arbeloa Ramos Pique Alba
Xavi Xabi/Busi Iniesta
Pedro Llorente Mata
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Post by Adit Sun May 27, 2012 4:21 pm

Khaled wrote:
Adit wrote:what has pedro done to deserve a start?

If scoring one or two during last game deserves a starting place then Torres deserves it more than pedro lol,at least he scored in CL and not in micky mouse competitions. Laughing\

btw De gea shouldve made it instead of Valdes. What is the point of Valdes there? rather give kids experience..

Mata and Navas both can play on the wing, but are not finishers... U need someone who can help Llorente upfront, Pedro is the only option... Yes, he didn't have a good season overall cause he was injured 3 times throughout the season, but he's fit now and he's the best option...

lol at De Gea and Reina being better than Valdes !! (nice joke)!!

Adrian has had a far better season and is a good finisher. Why should pedro go ahead of him?

Reina is better than Valdes..Reina had a shet year but so did Valdes..also VDB thinks Reina is better than Valdes..

Tell me what is the point of a veteran as a third choice keeper? i will take a page from Germany's book and bring De gea instead of Valdes.
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Post by buddytaller Sun May 27, 2012 4:36 pm

Pedro has never shined for Spain, he's scored 2 goals in 16 games for Spain, and was a huge flop at the World Cup.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 4:53 pm

buddytaller wrote:Pedro has never shined for Spain, he's scored 2 goals in 16 games for Spain, and was a huge flop at the World Cup.

Yet you are campaigning for Torres to start despite the fact he's a well known flop for Spain.... one important goal doesn't change that.....

Fallacies..... fallacies they are everywhere Laughing

Also Adit both Pedro and Adrian should go IMO :coffee:

The reason i feel Pedro should go is he offers alot of traits that most Spanish players don't have and is a proven big game performer....
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 27, 2012 4:55 pm

Mole you can't be saying Pedro should go and Torres shouldn't.

They are going for the same reason Laughing

Fallacies..... fallacies they are everywhere
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Post by Adit Sun May 27, 2012 4:58 pm

Pedro and Torres are going for same reason.because of their past.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 5:03 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Mole you can't be saying Pedro should go and Torres shouldn't.

They are going for the same reason Laughing

Fallacies..... fallacies they are everywhere

Difference is Pedro has proven in big games he can still score goals.... Torres cant.... Torres doesnt offer anything different to any other forward..... Pedro does.

Pedro is a proven big game performer..... Torres isnt....

So no they are not going for the same reason.
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Post by BarcaKizz Sun May 27, 2012 5:04 pm

Pedro, the flop of the WC who still forced his way into the starting team ahead of Torres and Silva :bow:
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Post by buddytaller Sun May 27, 2012 5:05 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
buddytaller wrote:Pedro has never shined for Spain, he's scored 2 goals in 16 games for Spain, and was a huge flop at the World Cup.

Yet you are campaigning for Torres to start despite the fact he's a well known flop for Spain.... one important goal doesn't change that.....

I does, it forever removed Spains infamous tag as perennial underachievers

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Post by Adit Sun May 27, 2012 5:09 pm

Torres is as much of a big game player as Pedro lol and more actually.,,he had a fantastic Euro and was one of the key players and was again key player for Liverpool.. Never seen Pedro as a key player for any team.The big game player tag as a excuse is Hippocracy.

Adian offers more than Pedro does ,he is creative and can play on either wings.

Both going to Euro because of their past lol..nothing more.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 27, 2012 5:10 pm

Here I was thinking you had to play well in big games to be a big game player.

Obviously I missed some underlying criteria
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