Spain's two horse race

ali8775 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What are you talking about? direct comparison like what

team for team

Thats not true at all. Atletico romped through English teams on the way to there Europa trophy.

2 years ago? Well...without Simao and Aguero, who is their attack ?

It's the only thing you can compare because these are the only times they play in real competitive games. English teams don't do well outside of England in the Europa league, if you want to argue you can but it's a fact.

The hard facts are that in the last 3 years our best played your best twice and moped the floor with them, and atletico did the same to two of your better non Champions league sides on there way to a title.

How many Champions League titles have English teams won?

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What are you talking about? direct comparison like what

team for team

Thats not true at all. Atletico romped through English teams on the way to there Europa trophy.

2 years ago? Well...without Simao and Aguero, who is their attack ?

It's the only thing you can compare because these are the only times they play in real competitive games. English teams don't do well outside of England in the Europa league, if you want to argue you can but it's a fact.

The hard facts are that in the last 3 years our best played your best twice and moped the floor with them, and atletico did the same to two of your better non Champions league sides on there way to a title.

How many Champions League titles have English teams won?

So because Atletico and Valencia and Sevilla won in the Europa a couple of years ago ( Atletico being the most recent ) thats what we have to base our argument on ?

and how many CL titles do we have, all time ?

What I meant by could was that they would put up a fight/comfortably beat/make a close game with any EPL team aside from Man U Man City and Chelsea, imo.

ali8775 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What are you talking about? direct comparison like what

team for team

Thats not true at all. Atletico romped through English teams on the way to there Europa trophy.

2 years ago? Well...without Simao and Aguero, who is their attack ?

It's the only thing you can compare because these are the only times they play in real competitive games. English teams don't do well outside of England in the Europa league, if you want to argue you can but it's a fact.

The hard facts are that in the last 3 years our best played your best twice and moped the floor with them, and atletico did the same to two of your better non Champions league sides on there way to a title.

How many Champions League titles have English teams won?

So because Atletico and Valencia and Sevilla won in the Europa a couple of years ago ( Atletico being the most recent ) thats what we have to base our argument on ?

and how many CL titles do we have, all time ?

Wait weren't you the one that wanted to compare the last 5 years and not the last 10?

Lionel Messi wrote:What I meant by could was that they would put up a fight/comfortably beat/make a close game with any EPL team aside from Man U Man City and Chelsea, imo.

Arsenal would put up a fight/make a close game with anyone in La Liga , what're you getting at?

[quote="Lionel Messi"][quote="ali8775"][quote="dnmac4"]

ali8775 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What are you talking about? direct comparison like what

team for team

So because Atletico and Valencia and Sevilla won in the Europa a couple of years ago ( Atletico being the most recent ) thats what we have to base our argument on ?

and how many CL titles do we have, all time ?

Wait weren't you the one that wanted to compare the last 5 years and not the last 10?

you want to compare trophies? or directly compare TEAMS?

[quote="ali8775"][quote="Lionel Messi"][quote="ali8775"]

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What are you talking about? direct comparison like what

team for team

So because Atletico and Valencia and Sevilla won in the Europa a couple of years ago ( Atletico being the most recent ) thats what we have to base our argument on ?

and how many CL titles do we have, all time ?

Wait weren't you the one that wanted to compare the last 5 years and not the last 10?

you want to compare trophies? or directly compare TEAMS?

You can only compare the games that have happened, otherwise we will match teams up and you will pick epl teams and we will pick La Liga teams. This thread has been done 200 times already, I know how it ends.

Stoke would finish fourth in La Liga.

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What I meant by could was that they would put up a fight/comfortably beat/make a close game with any EPL team aside from Man U Man City and Chelsea, imo.

Arsenal would put up a fight/make a close game with anyone in La Liga , what're you getting at?

0 shots on target less than 30% possession vs Barca. I wouldn't call that a fight.

Lionel Messi wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What I meant by could was that they would put up a fight/comfortably beat/make a close game with any EPL team aside from Man U Man City and Chelsea, imo.

Arsenal would put up a fight/make a close game with anyone in La Liga , what're you getting at?

0 shots on target less than 30% possession vs Barca. I wouldn't call that a fight.

funny, then why didn't you beat us when we had 11 players on the pitch ?

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What I meant by could was that they would put up a fight/comfortably beat/make a close game with any EPL team aside from Man U Man City and Chelsea, imo.

Arsenal would put up a fight/make a close game with anyone in La Liga , what're you getting at?

0 shots on target less than 30% possession vs Barca. I wouldn't call that a fight.

funny, then why didn't you beat us when we had 11 players on the pitch ?

Ask Valdes why he left the goal wide open

Lionel Messi wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What I meant by could was that they would put up a fight/comfortably beat/make a close game with any EPL team aside from Man U Man City and Chelsea, imo.

Arsenal would put up a fight/make a close game with anyone in La Liga , what're you getting at?

0 shots on target less than 30% possession vs Barca. I wouldn't call that a fight.

funny, then why didn't you beat us when we had 11 players on the pitch ?

Ask Valdes why he left the goal wide open

hes part of your team, its cause your team had a fault, and our team capitalized.
And you didn't beat us when we had 11 players on the pitch until our best players got red carded for a dubious decision , that proves that we can win or at least give a good fight.

imo, Valencia and Arsenal are about as good as each other, Villareal is a bit better than Spurs, and Sevilla is better than Liverpool

Lionel Messi wrote:imo, Valencia and Arsenal are about as good as each other, Villareal is a bit better than Spurs, and Sevilla is better than Liverpool

are you trolling ?

Lionel Messi wrote:imo, Valencia and Arsenal are about as good as each other, Villareal is a bit better than Spurs, and Sevilla is better than Liverpool

Not sure if serious.

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:imo, Valencia and Arsenal are about as good as each other, Villareal is a bit better than Spurs, and Sevilla is better than Liverpool

are you trolling ?

lol

I rate la liga very highly, just for the record though valencia is not close to arsenal in quality

is villareal better than spurs?

yes

The Madrid One wrote:is villareal better than spurs?

yes

Spurs are sh*t. That much can be said . I kinda feel bad for them because so many strikers denied them

for those who are saying its not a two horse race i suggest you put your money where your..keyboard is and place a bet that neither Barca or Madrid are going to win the leauge

im willing to put my life's saving into this, are you willing to bet a $100 bucks on it ?

I am going to post a thread detailing how all of the top 4 leagues excluding the Bundesliga are actually a two/three horse race.

I am too tired now.

Just going to say this, I am making it 2006+ to Correspond with the 2006 WC.

(Some football analyst said that football cycles change every two world cups)

Lord Spencer wrote:I am going to post a thread detailing how all of the top 4 leagues excluding the Bundesliga are actually a two/three horse race.

I am too tired now.

Just going to say this, I am making it 2006+ to Correspond with the 2006 WC.

(Some football analyst said that football cycles change every two world cups)

you have a bit of a point, but i don't think you're entirely correct

sure in serie a and EPL they pretty much end up being a 2 horse race. but at the start of the season there are at least 3 teams realistically capable of winning the league. usually 1 of the teams messes up big time or gets injury plagued etc. in spain there are only 2 teams capable of winning it from start to finish

Which are the 3 teams capable in Serie A?

kiranr wrote:Which are the 3 teams capable in Serie A?

Milan, Inter, Roma, Napoli, etc.

Lionel Messi wrote:imo, Valencia and Arsenal are about as good as each other, Villareal is a bit better than Spurs, and Sevilla is better than Liverpool

Perhaps u should watch football more rather than just fantasizing Messi.

dnmac4 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:What are you talking about? direct comparison like what

team for team

Thats not true at all. Atletico romped through English teams on the way to there Europa trophy.

Why talk about something u dont know about? Seriously did u even watch Atletico match vs Liverpool? Spouting nonsense wouldn't make ur arguement legitimate.