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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:45 pm

Mancini tactics how its works.

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Post by Adit Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:54 pm

They will finish 2nd and CL quarter.
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:44 pm

Gil wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:"Player for player, they have the best team in the league by a pretty good margin."

Laughing Laughing :lol


EDIT:

Goalkeeper

1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man Utd
4. Man City
5. Arsenal

Fullbacks
1. Chelsea
1. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
3. Spurs
3. Liverpool
3. Man City

Centrebacks
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham
5. Man City/Liverpool

Midfield

1. Arsenal
2. Tottenham
3. Man City
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool

Wingers

1. Man Utd
2. Tottenham
3. Arsenal
4, Man City
5. Liverpool


Strikers

1. Man Utd
1. Chelsea
1. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Liverpool


Manager

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
2. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
5. Man City




Wow, this is the homer post of the year.

First of all, I do not think it is debatable that Man City have the deepest team in the EPL. Second of all, they have the best Midfield and Strikers in the league, TALENT WISE.

There starting midfield of Silva, De Jong, Yaya, and Adam Johnson/Milner is the best in the EPL hands down.

There strikers: Tevez, Kun Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko, is also the best in the EPL, and if they get rid of Tevez then I would be willing to discuss other teams, but right now I don't think you can argue with that.

I would say there defense is probably 3rd best, but they are so deep that you have to take that into consideration and they really are not that far off seeing as there defensive record last year was outstanding.

As for there keeper, I would rate him at about the same level as the other top four teams, sure some of the other may be marginally better, but the difference is really not big enough to rank them.
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Post by chemicalboy99 Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:50 pm

Gil wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:"Player for player, they have the best team in the league by a pretty good margin."

Laughing Laughing :lol


EDIT:

Goalkeeper

1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man Utd
4. Man City
5. Arsenal

Fullbacks
1. Chelsea
1. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
3. Spurs
3. Liverpool
3. Man City

Centrebacks
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham
5. Man City/Liverpool

Midfield

1. Arsenal
2. Tottenham
3. Man City
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool

Wingers

1. Man Utd
2. Tottenham
3. Arsenal
4, Man City
5. Liverpool


Strikers

1. Man Utd
1. Chelsea
1. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Liverpool


Manager

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
2. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
5. Man City



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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:53 pm

dnmac4 wrote:

There starting midfield of Silva, De Jong, Yaya, and Adam Johnson/Milner is the best in the EPL hands down.

There strikers: Tevez, Kun Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko, is also the best in the EPL, and if they get rid of Tevez then I would be willing to discuss other teams, but right now I don't think you can argue with that.


Cesc Fàbregas----------------------------Silva
Samir Nasri-------------------------------De Jong
Alexandre Song--------------------------Yaya
Jack Wilshere----------------------------Milner

Who has the best midfield?
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:53 pm

"There starting midfield of Silva, De Jong, Yaya, and Adam Johnson/Milner is the best in the EPL hands down."

is that the same midfield Arsenal, Man utd, Chelsea, Liverpool destroyed last season ?
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Post by chemicalboy99 Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:55 pm

RealGunner wrote:"There starting midfield of Silva, De Jong, Yaya, and Adam Johnson/Milner is the best in the EPL hands down."

is that the same midfield Arsenal, Man utd, Chelsea, Liverpool destroyed last season ?

Yes

The same midfield that beat Chelsea, Man.Utd and Liverpool.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:58 pm

RealGunner wrote:"There starting midfield of Silva, De Jong, Yaya, and Adam Johnson/Milner is the best in the EPL hands down."

is that the same midfield Arsenal, Man utd, Chelsea, Liverpool destroyed last season ?

During the games you mentioned the midfield were defenders maybe that's why he is mistaking them for being the best.
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Post by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:58 pm

Gil wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:"Player for player, they have the best team in the league by a pretty good margin."

Laughing Laughing :lol


EDIT:

Goalkeeper

1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man Utd
4. Man City
5. Arsenal

Fullbacks
1. Chelsea
1. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
3. Spurs
3. Liverpool
3. Man City

Centrebacks
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham
5. Man City/Liverpool

Midfield

1. Arsenal
2. Tottenham
3. Man City
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool

Wingers

1. Man Utd
2. Tottenham
3. Arsenal
4, Man City
5. Liverpool


Strikers

1. Man Utd
1. Chelsea
1. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Liverpool


Manager

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
2. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
5. Man City


Really ridiculous post.Too much butthurt to say the least.
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Post by Iceman Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:01 pm

dnmac4 wrote:
Gil wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:"Player for player, they have the best team in the league by a pretty good margin."

Laughing Laughing :lol


EDIT:

Goalkeeper

1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man Utd
4. Man City
5. Arsenal

Fullbacks
1. Chelsea
1. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
3. Spurs
3. Liverpool
3. Man City

Centrebacks
1. Chelsea
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
4. Tottenham
5. Man City/Liverpool

Midfield

1. Arsenal
2. Tottenham
3. Man City
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool

Wingers

1. Man Utd
2. Tottenham
3. Arsenal
4, Man City
5. Liverpool


Strikers

1. Man Utd
1. Chelsea
1. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Liverpool


Manager

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
2. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
5. Man City




Wow, this is the homer post of the year.

First of all, I do not think it is debatable that Man City have the deepest team in the EPL. Second of all, they have the best Midfield and Strikers in the league, TALENT WISE.

There starting midfield of Silva, De Jong, Yaya, and Adam Johnson/Milner is the best in the EPL hands down.

There strikers: Tevez, Kun Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko, is also the best in the EPL, and if they get rid of Tevez then I would be willing to discuss other teams, but right now I don't think you can argue with that.

I would say there defense is probably 3rd best, but they are so deep that you have to take that into consideration and they really are not that far off seeing as there defensive record last year was outstanding.

As for there keeper, I would rate him at about the same level as the other top four teams, sure some of the other may be marginally better, but the difference is really not big enough to rank them.

Sure, they have a lot of depth...but you should only be ranking their starting XI, if you want to see who has the "best" squad. Joe Hart, while excellent, is no match for Cech. There is definitely a sizable difference between their levels. Reina is also definitely better than Hart while De Gaea is just as good as Hart if not only just a little tiny bit better.

Arsenal have a midfield of Song, Wilshere and Fabregas. I'm sorry, but I don't see how City's midfield competes with that. If you factor in the wingers, they still don't come out on top.
As for strikers, Drogba, RVP and Tevez are all on the same level imho. Well, perhaps Drogba has something to prove after last season, and Caroll's injuries have made him a bit of a forgotten man but, in any case, the difference between the teams is by no means big.

I just fail to see how City are just "THAT MUCH BETTER" than all other teams. Once again, I find myself agreeing with Gil. His assessment of the teams is pretty close to mine.
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Post by RED Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:02 pm

the most overrated team here along with RM.

They will finish either 3rd or 4th in the league and a last 16 or last 8 finsh in the CL.

BTW GIL, Utd have the best CB's in the league...otherwise, fair list.


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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:08 pm

Gil wrote:[

Strikers

1. Man Utd
1. Chelsea
1. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Liverpool


Manager

1. Man Utd
2. Liverpool
2. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
5. Man City

So you saying Arsenal has the worst striker in the top 4 and Kenny is tied with Wenger lol. There is only one Manger in the world who is above Wenger by not much and this is him.

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Post by Iceman Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:10 pm

I think their abilities as coaches matters more here than their abilities as managers. As a coach, Wenger has lost quite a bit of his ability it seems and I see Gil's list as quite fair in that respect.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:12 pm

Still surprised Gil rates Chelsea's CB more highly than United's CBs Twisted Evil


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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:31 pm

First of all if you want to compare midfielders why don't you do it for real.

Yaya Toure is better the Wilshire, if you argue this then you have no brain. This is not about potential, Yaya is better in all aspects RIGHT NOW.

De Jong is better then Song, not even close.

Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season and has the body of a ten year old boy.

And finally Fabregas is better then Johnson/Milner by a very wide margin.

Arsenal fans overrate there players to no end. At the end of the day what has any of there player accomplished internationally or domestically?
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Post by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:37 pm

Can someone with any footballing sense explain me how Tottenham have better defense than us let alone City?


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Post by Sri Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:39 pm

dnmac4 wrote:First of all if you want to compare midfielders why don't you do it for real.

Yaya Toure is better the Wilshire, if you argue this then you have no brain. This is not about potential, Yaya is better in all aspects RIGHT NOW.

De Jong is better then Song, not even close.

Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season and has the body of a ten year old boy.

And finally Fabregas is better then Johnson/Milner by a very wide margin.

Arsenal fans overrate there players to no end. At the end of the day what has any of there player accomplished internationally or domestically?

You are kidding right? I laughed so hard, I fell off my chair.

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Post by Gil Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:44 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:
BTW GIL, Utd have the best CB's in the league...otherwise, fair list.

No, they don't.

Vidic and Ferdinand are World Class of course but Jones and Smalling are both inexperienced footballers regardless of their potential.

Overall Terry, David Luiz, Alex and Ivanovic is a better set of CB's.

Raptorgunner wrote:
So you saying Arsenal has the worst striker in the top 4 and Kenny is tied with Wenger lol. There is only one Manger in the world who is above Wenger by not much and this is him.
Van Persie is World Class and is the best CF in the League when fit and on form but if he gets injured none of your strikers are good enough replacements.
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Post by Lex Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:46 pm

dnmac4 wrote:Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season
What did Silva do in either the first OR second part of the season?

dnmac4 wrote:has the body of a ten year old boy
Why does that matter? Are you looking to take him out on a date or something?
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:46 pm

srigooner wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:First of all if you want to compare midfielders why don't you do it for real.

Yaya Toure is better the Wilshire, if you argue this then you have no brain. This is not about potential, Yaya is better in all aspects RIGHT NOW.

De Jong is better then Song, not even close.

Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season and has the body of a ten year old boy.

And finally Fabregas is better then Johnson/Milner by a very wide margin.

Arsenal fans overrate there players to no end. At the end of the day what has any of there player accomplished internationally or domestically?

You are kidding right? I laughed so hard, I fell off my chair.


This post is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Arsenal fans have this superiority complex when in Man City's second year of these players being together they finished above Arsenal in the table and won the FA cup. That is more then this group of Arsenal players have accomplished in the last 5-6 years.

If you could explain what you laughed at that would help. I think Arsenal has a very big shock coming to them this year the only people who can't see it is Wenger and there fans.
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Post by Gil Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:47 pm

LOL @ City having a better midfield than Arsenal. Laughing

No way you're not trolling there.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:47 pm

dnmac4 wrote:First of all if you want to compare midfielders why don't you do it for real.

Yaya Toure is better the Wilshire, if you argue this then you have no brain. This is not about potential, Yaya is better in all aspects RIGHT NOW.

De Jong is better then Song, not even close.

Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season and has the body of a ten year old boy.

And finally Fabregas is better then Johnson/Milner by a very wide margin.

Arsenal fans overrate there players to no end. At the end of the day what has any of there player accomplished internationally or domestically?

Your hate for Arsenal goes real far, Arsenal has the most dominate Midfield in EPL and if you argue that you have no brain. Its a proven fact that Arsenal has the most dominate Midfield.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:50 pm

Gil wrote:
Devil-Is-Red wrote:
BTW GIL, Utd have the best CB's in the league...otherwise, fair list.

No, they don't.

Vidic and Ferdinand are World Class of course but Jones and Smalling are both inexperienced footballers regardless of their potential.

Overall Terry, David Luiz, Alex and Ivanovic is a better set of CB's.

Raptorgunner wrote:
So you saying Arsenal has the worst striker in the top 4 and Kenny is tied with Wenger lol. There is only one Manger in the world who is above Wenger by not much and this is him.
Van Persie is World Class and is the best CF in the League when fit and on form but if he gets injured none of your strikers are good enough replacements.

Sad but its true I have to agree with youl, every-time he falls down, I get scare and have flash backs lol. When RVP is healthy is untouchable.
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Post by Gil Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:58 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:
Really ridiculous post.Too much butthurt to say the least.
Which parts do you disagree with?
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Lex wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season
What did Silva do in either the first OR second part of the season?

dnmac4 wrote:has the body of a ten year old boy
Why does that matter? Are you looking to take him out on a date or something?

Silva was pretty much the creative force in Man City's team. He did what most spanish midfielders do and linked midfield and attack beautifully. Most Spanish midfielder's don't put up big number's, but everything runs through them. He helped his team WIN SOMETHING, you know what Nasri CANT DO.

The whole ten year old boy comment is because he is weak and prone to injury like most of there players. It's why they get bossed by a relegated team in the final of the Carling Cup and against most strong teams they play.
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:04 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:First of all if you want to compare midfielders why don't you do it for real.

Yaya Toure is better the Wilshire, if you argue this then you have no brain. This is not about potential, Yaya is better in all aspects RIGHT NOW.

De Jong is better then Song, not even close.

Silva is better then Nasri (most overrated player in the world) Really didn't do anything the second half of the season and has the body of a ten year old boy.

And finally Fabregas is better then Johnson/Milner by a very wide margin.

Arsenal fans overrate there players to no end. At the end of the day what has any of there player accomplished internationally or domestically?

Your hate for Arsenal goes real far, Arsenal has the most dominate Midfield in EPL and if you argue that you have no brain. Its a proven fact that Arsenal has the most dominate Midfield.


What do they dominate?? Not Birmingham City. The fold like a cheap suit at the end of every season. They were terrible in when it mattered last year. Not one shot against BArcelona in the knockout game, losing to a relegated team in the Carling cup final, and when the league came down to it, they crumbled in the end and were awful the last ten games of the season, not to mention none of them have won ANYHTING.

Do these things not matter???????
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