Rodri really won player of the tournament in four different competitions since the start of last year pic.twitter.com/8OHfRMz6fb

— ESPN UK (@ESPNUK) October 28, 2024

Catching up but did @Casciavit really call Pirlo a DM? 🤨

He did not have the role of the DM, but that was his position. He played as a #6, but his role was that of a regista rather than a ball winning midfielder. Just interchangeable terms - not a literal comparison. (:

Rodri in the 23/24 season btw. No one was as consistent as him #Rodri4BallonDor pic.twitter.com/vx1l9UGWKo

— 17 (@DxBruyneSZN) October 28, 2024

What he did as a DM is nothing short of spectacular

They really tried to argue his Ballon d’or was stolen LMFAOOO

Where is Kroos' Balon d'or

Please it was stolen based on some nonsense rule that was put in place only for this year

Farce of a win

Didn't realize I didn't post in this thread vastly overrated then. Still overrated now. Though I don't like him, shame about that injury and I hope he recovers well.

I see his future in Barcelona if he were to ever leave city.

halamadrid2 wrote:
Please it was stolen based on some nonsense rule that was put in place only for this year

What new rule?


I absolutely love how people whined for years that other positions get omitted but when a DM finally wins (deservedly so) they lose their marbles

Deservedly

Vini kicked his and his clubs ass in the CL but apparently it was deserved

Well thefact that it was merged for the first time ever was completely new and what about that farce criteria

“Kicked their ass”

Aka after winning on penalties where you parked the bus in the second game and camped in your box like a minnow akin to the likes of San Marino

You escaped by the skin of your teeth. What ass kicking took place? Vini was shut down by Walker. If anyone deserves praise it should be Lunin and Rodrygo.

Casciavit wrote:“Kicked their ass”

Aka after winning on penalties where you parked the bus in the second game and camped in your box like a minnow akin to the likes of San Marino

We scored when we needed to score, put multiple goals past them when we needed to. If it wasn't for Rudiger gifting them a goal we'd have cruised to a win without Lunin breaking so much as a sweat. Bit unfortunately Rudiger invited them in to the game and like the absolute Balon d'or calibre player he is Rodri chickened out of taking a penalty.

Incredible robbery

Bro they tied 3-3 and 1-1. What ass kicking took place?

Your own players came out in the media after the game saying they were fortunate to go through or along those lines.

It was a tight game between the two best teams in Europe over the last 3 years.

The only true ass kicking that took place is when they destroyed you 4-0.

2 best teams nobody thought we'd even have a chance against City. Yet we scored against them when we wanted and needed to score. With Vini at the forefront of everything that happened. In fact City are one of his favourite teams.

The 4-0 was a miscalculation by our manager trotting us out without a CDM sort of like Pep is doing now. But hey context only matters when it relates to Rodri and City

In terms of results since 2021:

City 1 win, 2 finals, 1 semi final, 1 quarters loss on penalties

Madrid 2 wins, 2 finals, 2 semi finals

They’ve been the two most consistent teams in Europe across these last 4 years. That’s a fact. It doesn’t change whether City had won on penalties.

If we want to get into semantics sure let’s get into it. Thoughts on Vinicus not having a true standout match-winning performance against City unless, wait, let me check my notes, oh yeah, grandpa Fernandinho was playing as a RB?

End of the day, the only ones who think it was a robbery are entitled petulant Madrid fans who cry to be the victim yet are simultaneously the best team in the world. It’s an amazing paradox.

End of the day, Rodri is the most influential player in Europe. City don’t go 1 win, 2 draws, 7 losses in 10 games without him.

Now maybe his influence is heightened even more since they don’t have anyone to replace his off-the-ball quality. Maybe if they had another defensive minded player in midfield it wouldn’t be as noticeable. Even then no one on the market would be able to contribute what he does in possession AND out of possession.

Their recent run of form proves it was not a robbery no matter how much Madrid fans continue to cry about it. If they went on the same L streak without Vinicius they’d be in front of France Football headquarters with pitchforks.

Ahh, miss u Cas... much needed sense n balance to this forum... though no amount of sensible talk will make some ppl here which happen often the case to be Real fans XD change their opinion ever, they are the same after all these yrs

halamadrid2 wrote:Deservedly

Vini kicked his and his clubs ass in the CL but apparently it was deserved

Well thefact that it was merged for the first time ever was completely new and what about that farce criteria

Madrid never kicked City's ass, every time they advance either by a last-minute goal or by chance (which is commendable on its own but it's not the definition of ass-kicking, especially if you sit back the entire game)

Yet again ignoring national team performance entirely. CONVENIENTLY. But hey it only applies to Messi

Didn't realize balon d'or was a big deal still. Better Rodri than that bozo mehssi. Who knows how many times that fool 'stole' that award from more deserving players. Mehssi trivialized the ballon d'or ever since 2010. Titles and championships are more important than individual titles anyways.

Okay Vini was a club maverick but why are we ignoring his absolutely dire performances for Brazil? If any of you tell me its down to the coach or not using him properly it'll be laughed it.

Rodri was both successful for both club AND country and winning a Euro at that.

Side note I dont agree with this reasoning City are losing in Rodri's absence as correlation causation etc.

Yes his absence is felt but they lack more so a player who covered their weaknesses as he did and failed to replace him and it is just a mental decline of form in what is an aging team. every top team goes through it even if not as drastic as what Pep's city is.

Arquitecto wrote:Side note I dont agree with this reasoning City are losing in Rodri's absence as correlation causation etc.

Yes his absence is felt but they lack more so a player who covered their weaknesses as he did and failed to replace him and it is just a mental decline of form in what is an aging team. every top team goes through it even if not as drastic as what Pep's city is.

I don't think he's the sole reason either. I assume they approached the last transfer window cautiously because of the allegations raised against them.

They only brought in Savinho, sold Alvarez and Sergio Gomez. I think they did the right thing in cashing in on Alvarez. It made sense from a business perspective, and Alvarez wanted to leave.

But they didn't bring in any cover, despite the lack of cover also being evident last season. That decision backfired when Oscar Bobb got injured after a brilliant pre-season, which turned out to be the start of a long list of injuries for them. City have been known to have the luxury of being able to rotate their players regularly, but even Gundogan is starting every match now. They have no alternatives.

The starters are being run into the ground. Some players are in poor form. Even Bernardo Silva has been poor this season. Kyle Walker has been so poor that he's receiving death threats KDB claims that several players are playing through injuries, because they have no other options. I don't think the return of Rodri would've changed all that much right now. Several things need to get back in order, for the team to return to their usual standards.

i do not have the insight you do on City but I trust yours since you watch them and that does seem reasonable, ie the accumulation of factors resulting in a collapse for their run of victory has been beyond spectacular even if their fall has been mind boggling but its due to break anytime as it is

Arquitecto wrote:Okay Vini was a club maverick but why are we ignoring his absolutely dire performances for Brazil? If any of you tell me its down to the coach or not using him properly it'll be laughed it.

Rodri was both successful for both club AND country and winning a Euro at that.

also mehssi's fault unironically.

Mehssi was shit for his NT for a long time and it took a wc in Saudi Arabia with refs practically giving argentina a pen almost every single match for him to finally win a WC. Though his Copa America triumphs iirc there were no questionable red decisions so props to him for that. Never forget however that mehssi won a ballon dor over Wesley sneijder and xavi/niesta when the former had a treble season and the latter won a WC but mehssi wins because he scored more goals than cr7 that year when neither should have been in the discussion in the first place.

Arquitecto wrote:Side note I dont agree with this reasoning City are losing in Rodri's absence as correlation causation etc.

Yes his absence is felt but they lack more so a player who covered their weaknesses as he did and failed to replace him and it is just a mental decline of form in what is an aging team. every top team goes through it even if not as drastic as what Pep's city is.

Indeed. Rodri is but one player and if pep the hipster is truly the manager that everyone thinks he is, then one player missing shouldn't be enough to completely derail a season. Especially not with Pep the hipster, infamous for his micromanaging of tactics to ensure even the most stupid player can play at an elite level.

If there is any real criticism of Pep's city to be had, it would be the lack of foresight with regards to father time and assessing his squad. But to be fair to the hipster, I reckon he expected some sort of decline but not to this extent.

Arquitecto wrote:Okay Vini was a club maverick but why are we ignoring his absolutely dire performances for Brazil? If any of you tell me its down to the coach or not using him properly it'll be laughed it.

Rodri was both successful for both club AND country and winning a Euro at that.

what success  at club? City only won 1 trophy while we won all those available to us bar CDR AND we beat City in THE H2H. And you only have to look at their respective impacts in those games. While Rodri was part of the team that chipped 4 goals over two legs and hiding behind the other players during the penalty shootout Vini was part of the team that scored at will against the mighty City and being influential in all goals.

Vini was robbed plain and simple

halamadrid2 wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:Okay Vini was a club maverick but why are we ignoring his absolutely dire performances for Brazil? If any of you tell me its down to the coach or not using him properly it'll be laughed it.

Rodri was both successful for both club AND country and winning a Euro at that.

what success  at club? City only won 1 trophy while we won all those available to us bar CDR AND we beat City in THE H2H. And you only have to look at their respective impacts in those games. While Rodri was part of the team that chipped 4 goals over two legs and hiding behind the other players during the penalty shootout Vini was part of the team that scored at will against the mighty City and being influential in all goals.

Vini was robbed plain and simple

Didn't see this. Hala, I like you. You're a calm and reasonable person. You need to let this go.
A euro triumph is nothing to scoff at. Vinicius will have another chance. And tbh Bellingham screwed vinicius at winning ballon d'or by stealing some votes from him. Let it go buddy.

No reason to have jimmies rustled over a trifling award. The UCL and Real Madrid setting it's legacy. That's what matters and we got that. The 4-0 loss? A blip. A minor traffic stop on the course of Real Madrid dominance. No need to be hot and bothered over something so trivial.

halamadrid2 wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:Okay Vini was a club maverick but why are we ignoring his absolutely dire performances for Brazil? If any of you tell me its down to the coach or not using him properly it'll be laughed it.

Rodri was both successful for both club AND country and winning a Euro at that.

what success  at club? City only won 1 trophy while we won all those available to us bar CDR AND we beat City in THE H2H. And you only have to look at their respective impacts in those games. While Rodri was part of the team that chipped 4 goals over two legs and hiding behind the other players during the penalty shootout Vini was part of the team that scored at will against the mighty City and being influential in all goals.

Vini was robbed plain and simple

"Rodri hid behind the team in penalty shootout"

He's a fucking DM. How are we still having this retarded debate.

You can argue all you want that he doesnt deserve the B'Dor or any of his Player of the Tournament awards, sure, but it doesnt change that he's got them. Finally a defensive player got some recognition, wow!

All these years you lot argued Messi never deserved his POTT awards, I can sense a pattern here.