Re: Your top 5 players in the world

by Valkyrja Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:06 pm

Completely agree and I fully believe that Messi should win the Bdor. Moreover, if both him and Neymar were to still play in Europe, they would be by far the best players, but they are not competitive anymore.

On another note, I’m a bit baffled by how overlooked Vinicius is, considering that he was the best performing player in the CL last season and one of the top3/5 the season before. We let him down as a team unfortunately in the last campaign.

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by sportsczy Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:05 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Vibe wrote:Everyone has Haaland in their top 2

I think he has a few more steps to make tbh. Man is a Viking, no doubt, impressive in every way. But I feel his instincs need to develop a bit more and his technique leaves a bit to be desired.

If he can tune in a long range shot in there as well he'll be the best in the world. I find it strange that a man of such shot power and an eye for goal can't score from outside the box.

He did also go missing in the crucial stage of Man City's season. If he can work all this out he will be one of the best ever.

Haaland is a better club player/performer than Mbappe. Mbappe lives off France performances, which is relevant, i respect him for that, but he needs to get out of Ligue Un before i can take him more serious.

How is Haaland a better club performer than Mbappe... and I want data, not feelings since none of you actually watch PSG.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:18 pm

Warrior wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:
And I'm not sure if I'm officially old, but as I think to myself who the best player in a position is right now (hakimi for FB? Ruben for CB?) I can't help but think these guys wouldn't be fit to tie the shoe laces of the greats from the previous generation.

Same feelings here

I can think of 3 explanations, some are mutually exclusive, not sure which one is accurate, maybe none is accurate

- The average level of a pro footballer is much better than before and it's increasingly harder to stand out

- The quality is more or less the same but we are not sensitive to new players charisma, we got older and there is no need to look up at sportsmen anymore. Like yeah Vinicius is very good, but whatever really...

- Football is so cancered by money that players see football strictly as a job, only care for millions and likes on TikTok, despite all the best training and nutrition techniques, it turns out passion and values such as loyalty and eager to win are the main drivers to reach your maximum potential as player. As a result the level of football in general has gone down.

Edit i just thought of a 4th one, as i remember a post i've read on GL (from Casciavit i think)

- Football is too tactical these days, players cannot display the entirety of their talent

Good post. I agree with 1, 2 and 4. For 3 I don't think players are any more greedy now than 10 or 30 years ago.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:21 pm

For Messi, I think if you were to assemble a 'best in the world' team right now you'd be hard pressed to ignore him. He showed in the WC he still has it, and is proving in the MLS he still cares and hasn't packed it in. He obviously has an upcoming expiration date, but it's not here yet. Probably after the Copa America.

by rincon Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:48 pm

I don't think anyone is arguing that Messi doesn't have it, same for Neymar, but with moves to the MLS or Saudi players remove themselves from top of world football.

by El Gunner Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:41 pm

sportsczy wrote:
El Gunner wrote:
Vibe wrote:Everyone has Haaland in their top 2

I think he has a few more steps to make tbh. Man is a Viking, no doubt, impressive in every way. But I feel his instincs need to develop a bit more and his technique leaves a bit to be desired.

If he can tune in a long range shot in there as well he'll be the best in the world. I find it strange that a man of such shot power and an eye for goal can't score from outside the box.

He did also go missing in the crucial stage of Man City's season. If he can work all this out he will be one of the best ever.

Haaland is a better club player/performer than Mbappe. Mbappe lives off France performances, which is relevant, i respect him for that, but he needs to get out of Ligue Un before i can take him more serious.

How is Haaland a better club performer than Mbappe... and I want data, not feelings since none of you actually watch PSG.

because he is not even in the top 5 leagues in Europe

https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/#/yr/2024

by Warrior Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:18 pm

We'll know soon enough about Mbappé... he's leaving Paris next summer at the latest

Anyways i notice in Haaland some spark of genius, as a fetus he had already understood how to score goals. Video gamesque career so far. He is a cyborg while Mbappé is a more human type of talent you can clearly identify what makes him so good. I prefer to watch Mbappé but if i had to pick one for my team it would probably be Haaland.

As for stats. I think Mbappé stats might be over inflated and his goal per game ratio could lower a bit if he joins Liga or PL. Haaland's floor is to be a 0.95 goal per game guy, it's been the case almost everywhere he played so far, exception made of his teenage years in Norway.

by Winter is Coming Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:27 pm

In Europe currently I'd say in no order

Vini
Rodri
Halaand
Mbappe
Dias

Honorable mention to

Kane
Gundo
Courtois

by Ben Mon Aug 28, 2023 3:40 pm

Halaand.
Mbappe.
Rodri.
Kane.
Messi.

by Lord Awesome Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:50 am

Mbappe
Haaland
Kane
Hakimi
Ruben Dias

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