Barca '22-'23

Another leak to pressure them into giving up money

I am glad TerStegen and Lenglet are refusing too

yeah it were actually legit they would be letting the right ppl handle this, not putting it out there and trying to fearmonger folk into doing things voluntarily. It's all nonsense.

() Ter Stegen, De Jong & Lenglet could even owe money to Barça if a court null and voids the renewal contracts they signed in 2020 + would also have to go back to the same deals they were on before the extension. Players already aware of the situation. @victor_nahe #FCB

— Reshad Rahman ✆ (@ReshadRahman_) August 8, 2022

Absolutely bS. A entity suing itself for signing ridiculous contracts. No judge will rule contracts invalid, best ruling would be a judgement against previous president / board. How can you penalize the player for signing the contract given to him by the entity?

This just another extortion despicable attempt to bully de Jong.

Barcelona will be able to register everyone if:

• They activate the 4th lever, and
• Pique renews with a salary reduction

The signing of Alonso won’t be official either until this is resolved, club is waiting to get a reply back from the league. @gerardromero #FCB

— Reshad Rahman ✆ (@ReshadRahman_) August 8, 2022

 

Makes sense, 50ME deffered wages plus another lever worth 100ME. Good luck trying to get Silva too when you have to activate a lever just to register these players

futbol_bill wrote:Absolutely bS.

| Ter Stegen, Frenkie De Jong & Clement Lenglet have already been informed by their agents that their contracts are indeed invalid.@COPE []

— Managing Barça (@ManagingBarca) August 8, 2022

Informed by barca? Or someone else? Seems kind of insane

halamadrid2 wrote:Good luck trying to get Silva too when you have to activate a lever just to register these players

Laporta wouldnt promise Bernardo anything if it werent possible. Talks been underway since late May/early June.

ESPN: If the renewals are indeed illegal, then the contracts will revert to the previous agreed versions. This means that Ter Stegen's contract will end in 2023, and Lenglet and De Jong's in 2024.

And DeJong would still be owed money, 17ME to be exact

| It is likely that Frenkie De Jong, Ter Stegen & Lenglet will have to return their salaries to FC Barcelona, if they refuse to reach an agreement with the club & a complaint is submitted.@ferrancorreas []

— Managing Barça (@ManagingBarca) August 8, 2022

I don't know what agreement TS and Lenglet made because the club hasn't leaked their contracts yet but Barca would still owe DJ as the contract he signed which may have been invalid eould still entitle him to those 17ME as he was paid far less than the 2019 agreed wages. And since his deal expires in 24, Utd could easily half the transfer fee they are offering. This is a lose lose situation for Barca that'll take years to settle. They are up to their dirty tricks trying to pressure the players to voluntarily give up money they are owed. I am no lawyer but I bet Barca know that the prosecutors office will probably laugh in their face if they went and put a complaint about those contracts

It wasn't the players approaching the club but the other way round. I still remember how the players were haggling because they refused to take paycuts and got deferred wages instead while the rest of Europe were taking paycuts like a sane club should insist on. If you want to blame someone, blame your previous board but the players will obviously be paid what was agreed provided there was no malice involved from the players' sides.

I don't know how strong the employment laws are in Spain but it could be next to impossible for Barca to invalidate the contracts if the players acted in good faith.

Imagine your employer sending you a memo that the wages you agreed to 2 years ago isn't valid because your manager was too nice in giving you the wages you agreed on and which were approved by the finance department and you have to give back all of it. Will never happen because it's absurd and doesn't reflect well on the employer. Are these players in Unions? Can't believe I haven't heard a peep from them yet. Do Spain not have Unions?

Myesyats wrote:

futbol_bill wrote:Absolutely bS.

| Ter Stegen, Frenkie De Jong & Clement Lenglet have already been informed by their agents that their contracts are indeed invalid.@COPE []

— Managing Barça (@ManagingBarca) August 8, 2022

I having a hard time determining who is most naive between you and BarcaLearning. I guess I’ll just assume both of you are!

A little lightbulb didnt lit up above their head when they signed contracts that literally doubled their salary? This is insane and I literally cannot comprehend how it went this far, not to mention Bartomeu put pen to paper on these renewals 1 week before he resigned. What a mess. I'm so exhausted by all this gonna have to take a break ffs

Barca are the absolute worst.

You still fail to see how an entity can not sue itself? This alleged crime will never make it to court, let alone would the signee be held responsible. As I said earlier, this is nothing but another extortion attempt.

If I was De Jong’s agent, I would recommend a launching a suit now and demanding a free transfer while the courts sort this out. By the way, that suit would make it to court!

futbol_bill wrote:You still fail to see how an entity can not sue itself? This alleged crime will never make it to court, let alone would the signee be held responsible. As I said earlier, this is nothing but another extortion attempt.

If I was De Jong’s agent, I would recommend a launching a suit now and demanding a free transfer while the courts sort this out. By the way, that suit would make it to court!

They can sue the previous board and contracts they signed.

Hapless_Hans wrote:Barca are the absolute worst.

Hans, I think your club was on the money when they said they didn’t know if BarcaFC would still be around in 4 years!

Myesyats wrote:

futbol_bill wrote:You still fail to see how an entity can not sue itself? This alleged crime will never make it to court, let alone would the signee be held responsible. As I said earlier, this is nothing but another extortion attempt.

If I was De Jong’s agent, I would recommend a launching a suit now and demanding a free transfer while the courts sort this out. By the way, that suit would make it to court!

They can  sue the previous board and contracts they signed.

Sure they can that’s what I’ve been saying all along! Duh,

But even a successful suit against Bartcriminal, doesn’t invalid player contract nor debt to club! But i guess this will sail right over your naive little head. My guess is you have never been anywhere close to financial or law education!

Myeshites knows this is all smoke and mirrors but the alternative is criticising and calling out ya own club for this numpty shit and its easier to be a Barca drone ffs

in all my years watching/following football this is def some peak scumbaggery, whole thing seems like a circus, cannot wait for the eventual downfall of Barca doc

Myesyats wrote:A little lightbulb didnt lit up above their head when they signed contracts that literally doubled their salary? This is insane and I literally cannot comprehend how it went this far, not to mention Bartomeu put pen to paper on these renewals 1 week before he resigned. What a mess. I'm so exhausted by all this gonna have to take a break ffs

Why is the onus on the players to make sense of the club's finances? Also, what exactly is the supposed crime here? bad management? that's no ground for invalidating a contract.

farfan wrote:what exactly is the supposed crime here?

not specified

Ppl need to understand all these were done by Barto, n he should be in jail just like Rosell were? Everyone at Barca having to deal with all the eventual shit this scumbag made during his reign here... as I said b4 if the police are too corrupt or weak to doing anything to him, some gangster thugs kinds in Barca should literally kidnappe him n beat him up make him pay up or at least do whatever he can do make up for all the shit he did

BarcaLearning wrote:Ppl need to understand all these were done by Barto, n he should be in jail just like Rosell were? Everyone at Barca having to deal with all the eventual shit this scumbag made during his reign here... as I said b4 if the police are too corrupt or weak to doing anything to him, some gangster thugs kinds in Barca should literally kidnappe him n beat him up make him pay up or at least do whatever he can do make up for all the shit he did

That’s why the current board should be suing him! Instead they are extorting the players, while mortgaging  the future. This is all on the club, not the legal system nor the police. It doesn’t matter who is president if he was legally elected and wasn’t removed for any criminal acts. If this current board has evidence of wrong doing, they are articles in Spanish non profit organizations that can be invoked to hold past board / president accountable. I would have thought when the due diligence accounting audit was done with new board, the law suits should have started.

In the interim, all contracts and debts are on the club regardless of who in club signed contracts. As I said before an entity can’t sue itself!

Laporta is doing the dirty work. People are going to get hurt in the process.

It's not the most correct thing to do, I'll concede.

People might say - why didn't he take the money raised so far by levers and pay off the debts? I don't think that would have been prudent. We'd have gone into further debt with negligible squad improvements.

He's doing the dirty work of forcing people out. He has very little leverage, that's why forcing out FdJ is taking this much time. It's going to be a task to get even Braithwhite out.

But keeping the objective to forward the squad and make it immediately competitive, this was the quick way to do it.

It's unethical. But hey, legal and ethical don't always coincide. And I believe he'll ensure this is just about legal.

Mes que un club is a sham - I'll concede. As someone else said here though, football lost its moral compass a long time ago.