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Post by Warrior Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:22 pm

A guy who likes to create narratives with a background of social justice and religious folklore. Him and Kanye West probably drink the same juice.

As for the Nets, i have them top 3 in the east, assuming both Harden and Durant are healthy for the majority of games. In frontcourt they signed veterans who can defend and score, an improvement in this regard. The backcourt rotation is now questionable but it's not their fault.

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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:40 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V28Ivd-mbg

oh look at what we have here... someone with big datasets seeing basketball the same way i do!

he also mentions a couple of things on the Harden/KD combo and Bucks' negative outlier postseason which backs up why i'm not too big on Nets without Kyrie and the Bucks in general if everyone is fit
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Post by The Franchise Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:00 am

I don't know his reasons, I don't like the hear this "voice for the voiceless" talk but good for him none the less.

These crazy zealots forcing people to take a vaccine they don't need while ignorantly spouting unscientific nonsense to attempt to justify it need to be challenged whichever way possible.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:05 pm

Thinking basketball is great content, but his top 10 just doesn't jibe with me.

I don't think any NBA player or coach truly thinks Curry is the number 1 player in the league.

To start the video he emphasises the importance of defence but then goes on to have Jokic and Curry in the top 3? Something doesn't add up there.

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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:39 pm

Curry is so efficiently explosive offensively that he has changed the game and made defense matter less when he is on the court - to me that's why he is the number 1 player in the game, and I think Thinking Basketball follows that same statistical knowledge. I don't think a lot of people truly realise and acknowledge (yet) the reality of how different and unique Steph is because narratives usually dominate the NBA media sphere.

Same for Jokic's impact on the offensive end last season, the efficiency was crazy.

Defense still matters of course and i believe he acknowledges it, hence Giannis over KD and Embiid over Dame and Luka...
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:37 am

Seems selective to me. I like the channel but I don't think he knows anything other NBA players can't see.
Curry and Jokic are obviously very good offensively but not so good defence should be ignored. I don't think any player is. Jokic doesn't protect the rim and you have to compensate for that, I would say the Nuggets are actually better when they had a guy like Plumlee with him who would protect the rim and cut without the ball on offence. Rather than Jokic and 4 small guys.

And Curry, you have to play a guy in the back court who can defend other point guards because Curry can be picked on and gets in foul trouble.

I wouldn't say liabilities, but certainly those 2 are B- defenders at best and have certain flaws you can look to play on. Meanwhile, you can argue someone like KD is every bit as good offensively and has a better defense impact.

This is why I say selective, because as you said, defence was acknowledged in other selections.

By the logic used in his video, isn't Curry the best player of all time? Certainly better than Magic who wasn't any better a defender either? Yet, surely Curry isn't better than Magic in reality.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:11 pm

By the logic used in his video, isn't Curry the best player of all time? Certainly better than Magic who wasn't any better a defender either?
exactly! now we're getting somewhere! He certainly should be in the discussion for "Mt Rushmore of NBA"
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:21 pm

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Post by El Gunner Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:57 pm

you laugh, but im serious. That's how people my age will view him in 30 years... people often have this "old-head" tendency where they try to bring up the goal old days and what people did then... Hence Wilt, Kareem and Magic are often up there on Mt Rushmore discussions along with Jordan. And of course they were all great and should be remembered and honoured, but ultimately the sport evolves and moves on, and so do we.

Statistically speaking Steph is an anomaly in a sport that has usually favoured big and strong players, and that's what makes him stand out from the rest.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:48 pm

Perhaps true but I far more often see the receny bias, where apperently the best player of today is the best player in history.

I doubt hardly anyone will call Curry the best player of all time.

Better than Magic, struggle with that one too.
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Post by Warrior Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:58 pm

There is a hipster trend to not rate Giannis as the best player. I can agree Jokic was the best player overall last season and he was my choice for MVP. But 1v1 i feel like it's not even close in fact, nobody is better than the greek freak. He has flaws and scored 50 pts to close a final regardless.

In all due respect beast centers are very rare and a lot of guys can shoot well in the league. And in this category yes Curry is the best.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:56 pm

Embiid spitting today.
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Post by Warrior Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:32 pm

In the 2 short quotes i read he is somewhat polite but the message is clear: Simmons is a big baby
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Post by El Gunner Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 pm

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Post by Warrior Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:57 pm

Clearly it's the Blazers who won't do it, Simmons would have limited effect for them, their defense is non existent

If i had to bet it would be the Kings. Hield+Bagley or Barnes+Bagley, maybe the GM can scrape a first pick although everybody knows he's in the shits. They'd get a veteran on medium-term contract. Bagley is RFA next season no need to cut him, and if he's healthy they can still integrate him or re-trade him.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:03 pm

Why would Portland swap McCollum for Simmons? The latter has tanked his value and Portland have Lillard.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:08 pm

read the tweet again...
i've heard that apparently that trade was on earlier in the off-season but Morey wanted more for Simmons
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:19 pm

One thing has been made clear throughout this ordeal to me, Simmons attitude is terrible.

He's not really tried to get better, every year there's a new excuse and finally his team mates had enough of this bullshit.

I personally wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:15 pm

far from our best last night, but came thru clutch with a brilliant 4th quarter... i pray i pray my squad stays fit because (a) we deserve it after the last two years we had, and (b) if we do i know we will surprise A WHOLE LOTTA people this season.



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Post by Warrior Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:26 pm

Giannis soiled the Nets in opening night i loved to see it
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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:57 pm

i know i said in an earlier post that im not high on them in general for how they won the Chip last season, but i feel like Giannis and Middleton and the whole co-cast will embrace the Championship glory and only get better because of it. The team to beat in the East definitely as long as Kyrie stays on his current MO. And i'd be worried about their height and grind if they were to matchup with my Warriors in the Finals.

as for Nets only KD and Mills looked fit
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:54 pm

Why you acting like you some underdog story lol?

All i seen all off season is people pumping up the Warriors lol, it's a surprise to literally no one.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:13 pm

besides Kendrick Perkins where is the Warriors hype outside of the Warriors fanbase? pls share it because i want to see it too

all i've been seeing is talk about Bucks, Nets and this old Lakers squad.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:30 pm

The Warriors have been top-4 or 5 in championship betting odds all off-season.

As for the Lakers, adding a non-shooting (or shit-shooting) Westbrook next to this version of Lebron seemed dumb on paper and the first game wasn't a good sign.
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Post by Warrior Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:33 pm

Art Morte wrote:a non-shooting (or shit-shooting) Westbrook


Definitely the latter
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:47 pm

El Gunner wrote:besides Kendrick Perkins where is the Warriors hype outside of the Warriors fanbase? pls share it because i want to see it too

all i've been seeing is talk about Bucks, Nets and this old Lakers squad.


On Twitter it's everywhere, everyone is high as hell on your squad man. Well people who aren't idiots anyway.

Like we all recognize that towards the end of the season you were arguably a top 5 team and you got more shooting around Steph as well Poole likely to make a jump and Klay back obv.
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