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Post by Art Morte Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:40 pm

If you're a treadmill team like Sacramento, you might as well make a trade that makes you better in the present, and Sabonis does that. Haliburton, for the time being, is all right, but the deal ends up being bad for the Kings only if Haliburton keeps on improving - and people are reacting to this deal like that's not an "if" but a dead certain fact.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:04 pm

People at Haliburton's age in the NBA go from 14 to 20 ppg very, very quickly.

He's quite obviously one of the best young guards in the NBA and in the right environment will likely ascend to all star level with a skillset which is more important than Sabonis.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:07 pm

Put it this way, no other front office is a trading a young guard who has already shown he can score from 3, defend, create for others etc for Sabonis.
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Post by Warrior Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:33 am

In the meanwhile, Blazers trade Nickeil Alexander-Walker to Jazz vs Joe Ingles and Elijah Hughes
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:04 pm

https://twitter.com/pinatafarms/status/1491704027725406215?t=wREXmDhpPNi6fC7FA5lAyA

LMFAO hope the Suns win the title now tbh.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:31 pm

meh their asses are too cocky for a team who folded the first time they ran into a proper team last playoffs. Dubs in 5.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:52 pm

Trade SZN has started.

Toronto trading Dragic for Thad Young

4 team deal involving DiVencenzo to the Kings, Ibaka to the Bucks, Bagley to the Pistons, Rodney Hood to the Clippers.

There's other stuff in the deal but that's what I've seen so far.
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Post by El Gunner Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:52 pm

Sacramento also got Trey Lyles and Josh Jackson.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:18 pm

The Brooklyn Nets are trading James Harden to the Philadelphia 76ers for Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummond and two first-round picks, sources tell ESPN.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:27 pm

Harden and Embiid is some exciting shit.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:34 pm

Until you see 40 free throws a game
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Post by El Gunner Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:52 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Until you see 40 free throws a game

Laughing

i'm happy for both of them though, on paper it looks a good fit on paper if Harden can give a damn

Woj said Philly ain't done yet because they still have a few valuable picks... they could do with some shooters now
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Post by Art Morte Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:51 pm

All eyes on both Harden and Simmons now; can Harden improve from his Nets' form and can Simmons grow a pair and get on the court?

In other news, Porzingis getting traded to Washington for Dinwiddie and Bertans Laughing
I think the Mavericks decided they're not contending this season, just wanted rid of KP at all cost, get a better second-star to Luka in the future.
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Post by Warrior Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:41 pm

Simmons vs Harden is the only trade that makes sense to me. The rest is all a bunch of bs.

Porzingis to Wizards for BERTANS ? What ???
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Post by Art Morte Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:33 am

The only explanation for the Porzingis trade is that Dallas hope that they can move on at least one of Dinwiddie or Bertans in the summer. Both are making 16-18 million per season for several years still and both are bad contracts. Dinwiddie has got some skill, but he's shooting 38% this season and there isn't a place in the NBA for anyone these days who shoots below 40%. And Bertans is simply an embarrassing case of someone getting paid and losing interest. Unless he rediscovers his 3-point form, he's a super, super bad contract.

This trade was all about Dallas wanting rid of Porzingis and creating cap space, they are 100% hoping to move at least one of those two players in the summer.
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Post by El Gunner Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:08 pm

rofl watch from the reserve selections onward rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKmQTE8iYqI
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Post by Warrior Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:20 pm

Art Morte wrote:The only explanation for the Porzingis trade is that Dallas hope that they can move on at least one of Dinwiddie or Bertans in the summer. Both are making 16-18 million per season for several years still and both are bad contracts. Dinwiddie has got some skill, but he's shooting 38% this season and there isn't a place in the NBA for anyone these days who shoots below 40%. And Bertans is simply an embarrassing case of someone getting paid and losing interest. Unless he rediscovers his 3-point form, he's a super, super bad contract.

This trade was all about Dallas wanting rid of Porzingis and creating cap space, they are 100% hoping to move at least one of those two players in the summer.


I get that and Porzingis is as injury prone as they come he was perhaps not the best lieutenant for Doncic

What i don't understand is to claim the contract of Bertans which is one of the most fraudulent in the league. 16m/year til 2025

Seems counter productive if the goal is to get rid of Porzingis at least you get someone who will be easier to move not harder. Same about Dinwiddie although he can do a bit more on a basketball court Bertans is strictly a shooter and these days more a slingshot than sniper...
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Post by Art Morte Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:58 pm

Warrior wrote:
Art Morte wrote:The only explanation for the Porzingis trade is that Dallas hope that they can move on at least one of Dinwiddie or Bertans in the summer. Both are making 16-18 million per season for several years still and both are bad contracts. Dinwiddie has got some skill, but he's shooting 38% this season and there isn't a place in the NBA for anyone these days who shoots below 40%. And Bertans is simply an embarrassing case of someone getting paid and losing interest. Unless he rediscovers his 3-point form, he's a super, super bad contract.

This trade was all about Dallas wanting rid of Porzingis and creating cap space, they are 100% hoping to move at least one of those two players in the summer.


I get that and Porzingis is as injury prone as they come he was perhaps not the best lieutenant for Doncic

What i don't understand is to claim the contract of Bertans which is one of the most fraudulent in the league. 16m/year til 2025

Seems counter productive if the goal is to get rid of Porzingis at least you get someone who will be easier to move not harder. Same about Dinwiddie although he can do a bit more on a basketball court Bertans is strictly a shooter and these days more a slingshot than sniper...


No, see, what you've got to remember about NBA trades is two things: salaries and sometimes having to take on bad contracts. The Wizards wanted rid of Bertans and they knew the Mavericks wanted rid of Porzingis. So, they more or less told the Mavs that "you're either taking both of these bad contracts, Dinwiddie and Bertans, or we're not taking Porzingis off your team". Sometimes teams agree to take on unwanted players to reach their own goals.

The second part is salary, I haven't checked the Wizard's salary cap situation, but often you need to match salaries in NBA trades, so that every team involved in the trade stay below the salary cap. KP's salary is slightly less than Dinwiddie and Bertans combined, so it worked out.
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Post by Warrior Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:13 pm

I am just surprised Porzingis value is that low Laughing

But yes it makes sense from that perspective. Mavericks don't have many high earners maybe they can use those bad contracts to make salaries even in a future trade. Mavericks fans must hope that is the goal on short term.
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Post by CBarca Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:39 pm

Art Morte wrote:If you're a treadmill team like Sacramento, you might as well make a trade that makes you better in the present, and Sabonis does that. Haliburton, for the time being, is all right, but the deal ends up being bad for the Kings only if Haliburton keeps on improving - and people are reacting to this deal like that's not an "if" but a dead certain fact.


Nah, these bad teams improve and get better by being shit, drafting well, and making decent trades. Maybe you get lucky like MKE and end up with a Giannis, that's the other way (but that's just "drafting well").

With Haliburton, they drafted extremely well. He's could possibly be the best value for draft place in that entire draft. You don't often get guys who are as NBA ready as Haliburton is at pick #12. He's immediately made an impact and he's just getting started.

Regardless, I think nobody has mentioned the most important thing in here, for me, when it comes to Haliburton. The guy was happy to be in Sacramento. He was thankful to be drafted by them and he had the attitude of "I'm gonna grind until we're a good team. I'm gonna make it happen".

In a franchise like the Sacramento Kings, you just can't trade away guys like that. Because most players view Sacramento like NBA hell and will want to get out of there. You gotta keep the quality guys that can help build a culture, and Tyrese is arguably A1 in that discussion, depending on how you view Fox.

Just mindboggling.

Anyway, I'm happy to get Ibaka.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:25 pm

I can't be the only one that thinks it's ridiculous the NBA is showing the Lakers on national TV when Lamelo is facing Ja today.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:27 pm

Not really surprising ratings are down when the actual exciting players and good teams are not being shown because market.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:28 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I can't be the only one that thinks it's ridiculous the NBA is showing the Lakers on national TV when Lamelo is facing Ja today.

they obviously televised for the Klaycano eruption
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:34 am

Beat the Raptors by 30, i still think the starting lineup is all wrong and thus the rotations still need some work.

But the shot creation with CJ is 100x better. To the point BI had 10 points and it was one of his best games of the season because he tore them apart with playmaking.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:53 pm

Are the Pelicans going to give any update on Zion or will he miss the complete season in silence?
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