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Post by Guest July 7th 2021, 23:11

Jensen didnt even touch ...

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Post by Lord Spencer July 7th 2021, 23:11

Sterling is a shitty diver Laughing

He has been looking for it all game.
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Post by Guest July 7th 2021, 23:12

ref and VAR is a joke.

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Post by M99 July 7th 2021, 23:12

Shame, a Sterling dive takes England to the final.
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Post by Warrior July 7th 2021, 23:12

Dive
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Post by Thimmy July 7th 2021, 23:12

Thimmy wrote:Is this going to be decided by a Sterling dive? 😂


That was a soft fucking penalty. Awful way to decide this match.
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Post by Freeza July 7th 2021, 23:12

Hope Sterling gets paralyzed

What a fucking disgusting referee too. No fucking pen there


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Post by Guest July 7th 2021, 23:13

this is so wrong...
at the mercy of VAR who are sleeping

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Post by Casciavit July 7th 2021, 23:13

KANEEEE LET'S GOOOOO
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Post by Guest July 7th 2021, 23:14

if the crowd pressure and player surrounds like that ref is bound to give that....
its no way a penalty kick.

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Post by Jay29 July 7th 2021, 23:14

It's not a pen.

I mean, if the ref doesn't give it, VAR is never overturning that.

The ref on comm was talking about upper body contact but I don't see it.

The ref can cow to pressure but VAR's there to catch it. It's a failure of the VAR ref.


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Post by neuro11 July 7th 2021, 23:15

even the highly biased British commentator said there was no contact

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Post by Guest July 7th 2021, 23:15

Sterling as with Jensen side by side, at most Sterling was the one who lunged towards Jensen and just dived ...

well Sorry Denmark... historic night has been taken away from you

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Post by Freeza July 7th 2021, 23:15

This is so disgusting. Fucking hate that referee
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Post by Thimmy July 7th 2021, 23:15

M99 wrote:Okay GL before VAR gives its verdict tell me, pen or nah?


Little contact, and Sterling looked prepared to throw himself forward before there even was any. I can't be the only one who's seen him approach dribbling challenges in and around the box like this a million times in his career. He just leans forward and prepares himself to fall as soon as there's contact.
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Post by Warrior July 7th 2021, 23:16

VAR is not good, it is purposeless
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Post by RealGunner July 7th 2021, 23:17

Yea that was a dive
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Post by M99 July 7th 2021, 23:17

That was a blatant dive. Sterling is falling to the ground well before any "upper body contact" is initiated.
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Post by Guest July 7th 2021, 23:17

if anything VAR has deprived fans of justice and spectacle ...

i feel sorry for Denmark ... this is moreno level of robbing

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Post by Freeza July 7th 2021, 23:17

VAR showed no contact.

This England squad is just a bunch unlikable cunts
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Post by neuro11 July 7th 2021, 23:22

sterling is such a cheat.....England making history through such blatant cheating....i see no chance for italy too, they will do everything to win at wembley

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Post by CBarca July 7th 2021, 23:22

M99 wrote:
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M99 wrote:Why in the world are you all crying for the penalty? First off ref blew for a foul BEFORE the penalty shout and secondly it was Kane who fouled first.

Goddamn the influence of British commentators is unreal.


I've reffed for near a decade lol, I don't take my cues from fuckin commentators.

In any case, what you said is demonstrably false. They did a VAR check on the penalty. That means that they had to be calling it a foul (or dive) from Harry Kane, instead of a foul before the potential penalty foul.

The refs made a clear mistake, because it was contact and a penalty. I'd have to see the contact on the collision before the penalty shout because that may have been a foul from Kane, but it was not called that way.


The free kick is for Kane kicking the Danish player who played the ball back into his own area not for the collision in the area. VAR checking for pen does not change the fact that ref blew the whistle for that.

https://www.clippituser.tv/c/prmbdg

For argument's sake lets still see the collision. I see this and I see Kane who gets into the Danish player first. Not a penalty.


Yeah that's the wrong decision. Kane gets to the ball first and Norgaard (I think) leaves his foot in and makes contact with Kane's right leg, bringing him down. That's a clear penalty. You can't make the argument that Kane kicks or gets into Norgaard because their upper bodies don't collide, and all Kane does is nick the ball, he never kicks into the Danish player, but rather his leg is taken out as his body moves forward.

This is analogous to a forward running onto a ball a defender is running onto, getting to it first, and then getting tackled as the ball has gone past the defender. It's a less clear cut version than that, but it's essentially the same thing, and to me that's a very clear penalty.

VAR didn't think so, but VAR thought a clear dive was a foul, so I guess we cannot trust them here Laughing
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Post by Jay29 July 7th 2021, 23:23

The big problem with "clear and obvious" as a threshold is it greatly favours the on-field decision. So it comes down to a coin flip on the original decision and puts everything on the on-field ref, which defeats the purpose of VAR being there to correct bad decisions.

As I said before, if the ref decisions it's not a pen, VAR wouldn't overturn his decision.


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Post by RealGunner July 7th 2021, 23:23

Made no sense why Denmark took off Dolberg and Damsgaard so early on.
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Post by Lord Spencer July 7th 2021, 23:24

The Danes are awfully tired.

Braithwaite completely messed up several chances in regular time, and now they can't do anything.
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Post by Thimmy July 7th 2021, 23:24

It's diving home 🤾‍�
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