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Post by El Gunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:58 pm

Rui Patricio rightfully got his props for the save against Pogba, but now he needs his slander for today's goal.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:59 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Bruno is such a shit player ffs


He really is, isn't he

reflects poorly on the Premier League that he could put up such numbers
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Post by Babun Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:59 pm

Very managable tie for Italy.. what a shitshow from Belgium Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:00 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Bruno is such a shit player ffs


He really is, isn't he

reflects poorly on the Premier League that he could put up such numbers


I can't believe his numbers. He is an average passer, average dribbler, great runner and a precise shooter. There have been hundreds like him before. No idea how he managed to bullshit his way into the big stage

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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:01 pm

@Babun wrote:Very managable tie for Italy.. what a shitshow from Belgium Laughing


They were so bad. Hope Italy destroys them.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:03 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Bruno is such a shit player ffs


He really is, isn't he

reflects poorly on the Premier League that he could put up such numbers


I can't believe his numbers. He is an average passer, average dribbler, great runner and a precise shooter. There have been hundreds like him before. No idea how he managed to bullshit his way into the big stage



The name Penandes of coure gives a hint, but yeah he IS dangerous

just not against good opposition
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Post by Doc Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:06 pm

Of course, his defenders would tell you he played 84 games over the course of a year + for Utd and that would have a real impact on one's performance.

I, of course, don't really see that as a reason for is him not showing up when it really mattered.


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Post by Lord Awesome Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:06 pm

Portugal couldnt take down a big team this tournament. I think that said it all there tbh. They didnt play horrible but it could be better.
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Post by M99 Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:07 pm

So is Santos done after this? Surely should have done better than 3rd, one win and a round of 16 exit with this team. If so who is his replacement?
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Post by El Gunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:09 pm

someone said earlier on this forum that Italy isn't on Belgium and Portugal's level
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Post by Perucho21 Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:09 pm

Let's hope so. Portugal have an outstanding squad with WC players all over, but I've always said Santos is incompetent.

If portugal want to really compete and we all know they are capable of it, they need a better manager
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:10 pm

Good match anyway , beyond my expectations, I mean Sevilla at the end of June ... Where's Amnesty International ?
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:11 pm

@El Gunner wrote:someone said earlier on this forum that Italy isn't on Belgium and Portugal's level


Well tbf Portugal is not Austria
I think it's 55 % Belgium 45 % Italy
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Post by El Gunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:12 pm

@El Gunner wrote:someone said earlier on this forum that Italy isn't on Belgium and Portugal's level


@Babun wrote:I disagree, Italy isn't on the same page as the ones you mentioned. Also add Belgium and Portugal above.

major lulz
repent pls
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Post by rincon Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:14 pm

Harsh comments on Santos. He won them a eurocup and a nations league, the only titles Portugal has ever won.

Portugal was good, clearly better than Belgium in the second half. Mostly they were let down by Rui Patricio for the goal and by their finishing. More down to the players than the manager tonight
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Post by Doc Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:14 pm

Surprised he stayed/Portugal kept him after WC 2018 but now would be as good as a time to bring in another manager to deal with this project as it really is a fine group of players.

Then again, Fonseca & Conceicao aren't exactly clamouring to become NT managers. I guess they can ask the Sporting CP manager to double hat?!

Then there are terrible choices like Jardim and Villas Boas...
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Post by El Gunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:16 pm

@Robespierre wrote:
@El Gunner wrote:someone said earlier on this forum that Italy isn't on Belgium and Portugal's level


Well tbf Portugal is not Austria
I think it's 55 % Belgium 45 % Italy

it should be a cracking matchup
both teams have talented players, both teams are well drilled and have played good football for the past few years. Both teams have good tactical coaches. Both teams weren't really at their best this round, and i'm sure they will want to both improve in the next game.
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Post by Doc Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:21 pm

Roberto Martinez is a good, tactical coach?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:23 pm

@Doc wrote:Of course, his defenders would tell you he played 84 games over the course of a year + for Utd and that would have a real impact on one's performance.

I, of course, don't really see that as a reason for is him not showing up when it really mattered.
Like he's the only one who has a season behind him
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Post by Doc Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:25 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Doc wrote:Of course, his defenders would tell you he played 84 games over the course of a year + for Utd and that would have a real impact on one's performance.

I, of course, don't really see that as a reason for is him not showing up when it really mattered.
Like he's the only one who has a season behind him

Nope, he isn't hence why I mentioned I don't really see it as a reason. Or should it be an excuse.
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Post by Warrior Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:30 pm

@rincon wrote:Harsh comments on Santos. He won them a eurocup and a nations league, the only titles Portugal has ever won.

Portugal was good, clearly better than Belgium in the second half. Mostly they were let down by Rui Patricio for the goal and by their finishing. More down to the players than the manager tonight



Agreed
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:33 pm

What puzzles me is how th did Portugal win it last time, with Ronaldo injured off as well. I guess the France team then didnt have Mbappe or something...

Not sure what to make of this game, Belgium had De Bruyne off injured again, not a great nor bad performance, pretty good I guess. So was Portugal, I guess they just lacked some balance in the team and Ronaldo prolly aging that much means hes been able to offer less in terms of winning games clutchness.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:39 pm

@Doc wrote:Roberto Martinez is a good, tactical coach?

reasonably, yes
sets his team up well with his personnel in mind, and can make good in-game adjustments now and then
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Post by McLewis Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:12 am

Will be fascinating to see what Portugal could become post-Ronaldo. There isn't enough balance with them right now. Too Ronaldo-centric for my liking.
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Post by Lord Awesome Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:14 am

I think the spot light will go to Joao Felix afterwards but yeah they need to start thinking of the time without him. At least till the next WC
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Post by Art Morte Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:31 am

Such a frustrating loss for Portugal after playing better than Belgium the whole match. Gotta create more chances, though. For Belgium, the lack of new talent to compliment this golden generation is starting to show a little, imo.

Anyone else wonder how this Portugal side would look without Ronaldo starting? Obviously he's a world-class scorer, but this was another one of those matches where he was kinda useless since he didn't get opportunities to score. Spending so much time standing there by the defenders, waiting for someone to put it on a plate for him, instead of taking part in the build-up.
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