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Post by CBarca Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:51 am

What's going on with Zion

I know Pels aren't really the best run franchise in the league, no offense Mole altho you know it more than anyone, but it feels way too early to have some of this noise. Zion's hardly done anything in the league yet.

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Post by Warrior Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:40 am

Probably frustrated the way Morant and LaMelo started their career, they have an immediate impact on the league in small market teams with promising rosters, they already got somewhat serious results. And the hype that goes with it.

Zion himself did not publicly say anything, i think, it's a journalo who came out with this story.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 pm

Zion stuff started before he was drafted lol, his family never wanted him here.

Explaining everything would take several posts lol, it's not really simple.

But two key points, he doesn't really have a relationship with David Griffin and he was miserable under Stan Van Gundy.

If we start winning more and he's still miserable then that's a problem.

But it's important to mention that winning solves a lot of things in the NBA. A year ago Phoenix and the Knicks were considering a laughing stock.

So that's what I'm personally focused on, i just want to see a winning product and don't really care about anything else.
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Post by El Gunner Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:32 pm

Wiggins doesnt want to get vaxxed, Chase Center has a rule that everyone who enters it has to be vaxxed. Although, here's the kicker, anyone else from another team who isn't vaxxed can play as long as they provide a negative test. Laughing

Simmons has gone cold on Sixers and his teammates, Embiid and a few others wanted to go visit him in LA to talk out the situation, but he told them they shouldn't bother. Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:46 pm

The lunacy of it all was bound to spread to the NBA, the most woke league in all sports.

Don't want to turn this into the covid thread, but it really is as illogical as it gets.


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Post by Warrior Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:29 pm

The Wiggins situation makes no sense

As for Simmons, embarassing behavior, this guy cannot take criticism although he's the main responsible for Sixers problems. The way things are going, it's impossible to get decent value in return, eventually he will get traded to the Kings for Buddy Hield and Marvin Bagley imo.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:42 pm

don't be surprised if Wiggins for Simmons happens now

as of now, it's similar rules for New York teams, and i heard rumblings that a few Brooklyn players including Kyrie aren't vaxxed (yet) too.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:54 pm

Well, Kyrie not allowed to play for the Nets as they have banned him.

The lunacy continues.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:16 pm

I hope this turns into his retirement, so we don't have to hear about him again. Maybe start a cult with Kanye, they should get along great.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:31 pm

Finally some actual sense has been reached.

Glad Nets put their foot down.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:46 pm

so without Kyrie where does that leave Nets championship contending wise?
a better shooting version of OKC 2016? but maybe not as tough, and now the lack of a good 5 and 4 might be exposed more?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:06 am

They're still better than everyone else not called Milwaukee.

Inb4 Freeza mentions we don't respect the Lakers hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:10 am

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Kyrie is on Cloud Cuckoo land
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Post by CBarca Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:13 am

A voice for the voiceless is a pretty uhhh...interesting way to put it
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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:23 am

he wants to go into socio-politics... it's so obvious. I'll never understand people who name-call people as "crazy" just for having anti-mainstream views. Let the guy do what he wants to do, it's his life.

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:They're still better than everyone else not called Milwaukee.

Inb4 Freeza mentions we don't respect the Lakers hmm

disagree... they are just amongst the contending pack without Kyrie.
They certainly won't beat us in a 7-game series
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Post by Art Morte Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:42 pm

I've no problem with anti-mainstream views, but the things you say have to make at least some sense, otherwise I might indeed think you're crazy - or just very stupid. Kyrie refusing to get vaccinated out of solidarity towards other people who refuse to get vaccinated, I can't get behind that at all. A) the vaccine is the way to beat the pandemic and save lives and b) unvaxxed people will continue to be a selfish burden and cost to healthcare as some of them will require hospital care when they get sick. Refusing the get vaccinated for "social justice" reasons is a crazy weird hill to die on.
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Post by Warrior Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:22 pm

A guy who likes to create narratives with a background of social justice and religious folklore. Him and Kanye West probably drink the same juice.

As for the Nets, i have them top 3 in the east, assuming both Harden and Durant are healthy for the majority of games. In frontcourt they signed veterans who can defend and score, an improvement in this regard. The backcourt rotation is now questionable but it's not their fault.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:40 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V28Ivd-mbg

oh look at what we have here... someone with big datasets seeing basketball the same way i do!

he also mentions a couple of things on the Harden/KD combo and Bucks' negative outlier postseason which backs up why i'm not too big on Nets without Kyrie and the Bucks in general if everyone is fit
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Post by The Franchise Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:00 pm

I don't know his reasons, I don't like the hear this "voice for the voiceless" talk but good for him none the less.

These crazy zealots forcing people to take a vaccine they don't need while ignorantly spouting unscientific nonsense to attempt to justify it need to be challenged whichever way possible.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:05 pm

Thinking basketball is great content, but his top 10 just doesn't jibe with me.

I don't think any NBA player or coach truly thinks Curry is the number 1 player in the league.

To start the video he emphasises the importance of defence but then goes on to have Jokic and Curry in the top 3? Something doesn't add up there.

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Post by El Gunner Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:39 pm

Curry is so efficiently explosive offensively that he has changed the game and made defense matter less when he is on the court - to me that's why he is the number 1 player in the game, and I think Thinking Basketball follows that same statistical knowledge. I don't think a lot of people truly realise and acknowledge (yet) the reality of how different and unique Steph is because narratives usually dominate the NBA media sphere.

Same for Jokic's impact on the offensive end last season, the efficiency was crazy.

Defense still matters of course and i believe he acknowledges it, hence Giannis over KD and Embiid over Dame and Luka...
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:37 am

Seems selective to me. I like the channel but I don't think he knows anything other NBA players can't see.
Curry and Jokic are obviously very good offensively but not so good defence should be ignored. I don't think any player is. Jokic doesn't protect the rim and you have to compensate for that, I would say the Nuggets are actually better when they had a guy like Plumlee with him who would protect the rim and cut without the ball on offence. Rather than Jokic and 4 small guys.

And Curry, you have to play a guy in the back court who can defend other point guards because Curry can be picked on and gets in foul trouble.

I wouldn't say liabilities, but certainly those 2 are B- defenders at best and have certain flaws you can look to play on. Meanwhile, you can argue someone like KD is every bit as good offensively and has a better defense impact.

This is why I say selective, because as you said, defence was acknowledged in other selections.

By the logic used in his video, isn't Curry the best player of all time? Certainly better than Magic who wasn't any better a defender either? Yet, surely Curry isn't better than Magic in reality.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:11 pm

By the logic used in his video, isn't Curry the best player of all time? Certainly better than Magic who wasn't any better a defender either?
exactly! now we're getting somewhere! He certainly should be in the discussion for "Mt Rushmore of NBA"
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:21 pm

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Post by El Gunner Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:57 pm

you laugh, but im serious. That's how people my age will view him in 30 years... people often have this "old-head" tendency where they try to bring up the goal old days and what people did then... Hence Wilt, Kareem and Magic are often up there on Mt Rushmore discussions along with Jordan. And of course they were all great and should be remembered and honoured, but ultimately the sport evolves and moves on, and so do we.

Statistically speaking Steph is an anomaly in a sport that has usually favoured big and strong players, and that's what makes him stand out from the rest.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:48 pm

Perhaps true but I far more often see the receny bias, where apperently the best player of today is the best player in history.

I doubt hardly anyone will call Curry the best player of all time.

Better than Magic, struggle with that one too.
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