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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:41 pm

This rushed drive pass lobbing really is killing any vibe Milan have in trying to create a goal. How is this even allowed by any coach

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Post by Helmer Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:41 pm

Milan :facepalm:
at some moments I felt I am watching Liverpool of last 2 months. All good moves, got the ball lots of time in the box but just couldn't finish any of the chances.

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Post by Thimmy Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:41 pm

This is one of the better performances I've seen from Pogba in recent years. As close as it gets to a big game performance against a team that isn't Arsenal, at least.


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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:42 pm

Cant figure out if Man Utd are the worst good team in the world, or the best shit team. They have done next to nothing to win this tie.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:43 pm

Thimmy wrote:This is one of the better performances I've seen from Pogba in recent years. As close as it gets to a big game performance against a team that isn't Arsenal, at least.


Of the 5 he's had over the past few years?
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Post by Thimmy Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:43 pm

Rate their players from 1 to 10, and I think you'll find the answer to that question.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:44 pm

Never thought the day I would dread seeing Milan playing in San Siro given the stark contrast between Milan home and Milan away.

This has been a constant thing by now.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:50 pm

I will never find it pleasing to ever watch a team rush the ball into the box as if it will actually create chances outside of happenstance. Its how half of Llorente's career was misused and abused.

Its also how Ibra is barely getting the ball either.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:51 pm

Lobbing the ball into the box to try and score is akin to trying to create success in your life by attempting for the lottery.

Terrible game plan for the second half.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:51 pm

Milan this half;

-Chip the ball over the top to 39 year old Ibra
-Long ball and crosses, Kessie win the second ball maybe?
-give away needless freekick, throws and corners.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:52 pm

As if it hasn't been clear that despite his height, Zlatan could not care less to play in the air.

He prefers it at his feet but yes two stints later lets just lob it to him and hope for the Swede to anchor the ball.
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Post by Firenze Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:53 pm

fully deserving of going through tonight

created the best chances BY FAR across both games, only conceded late on due to poor GKing in the first leg

this second game should have been a formality, and Milan did nothing all night on their own ground

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light work
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:53 pm

S wrote:Meite dominating United's midfield rofl


Worst post of the evening, well done
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:53 pm

I can safely say, I am more technically gifted than Tomori. Dreadful touch.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:54 pm

Firenze wrote:fully deserving of going through tonight

created the best chances BY FAR across both games, only conceded late on due to poor GKing in the first leg

this second game should have been a formality, and Milan did nothing all night on their own ground

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light work


Bait.

United barely could even create against a Milan B team and had to capitalise on a false handball on Kessie first leg.

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:54 pm

Tomori pre-game: "I want to impress Maldini"

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Post by M99 Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:56 pm

Terribly dull match.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:57 pm

Pioli the loser of tonight.

No decisive in his game plan. Somehow thought being a total yuppie by playing Samu as False 9 would work.

Made changes too late. Did not prevent the "Run down the clock" Mentality Milan took in approach to the second half, which absorbed pressure immediately and resulted in the most comical defending all season, for Pogba's goal.

Im done with this season.
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Post by Lord Spencer Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:59 pm

Congratulations to United.

I think the teams were evenly matched, and it went to the wire. Pioli got his selection wrong in the first half (freaking Castelscrub as the CF) and wasted the few good chances they had.

We played better away from home and should have done more to score there.

This is the story of this season, which is honestly better than any Milan fan expected.

Good enough to compete with the better teams, but not good enough to win.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:01 pm

Arquitecto wrote:Pioli the loser of tonight.

No decisive in his game plan. Somehow thought being a total yuppie by playing Samu as False 9 would work.

Made changes too late. Did not prevent the "Run down the clock" Mentality Milan took in approach to the second half, which absorbed pressure immediately and resulted in the most comical defending all season, for Pogba's goal.

Im done with this season.


Without knowing the full context of Milan's season, I agree.

It seemed like they were almost waiting untill Ibra arrived. the collective strategy seemed to be lets just wait and see, perhaps we score, perhaps not, but lets wait for Ibra.

Then he gets on the pitch he you stopped playing any football. The ball spent much of the game in the air and if anything, you seemed less likely to score.

Man Utd are horribly weak when you isolate the centerbacks in the wide areas, not once did we see that. Not because of anything Utd did, but because it didnt seem a focus at all.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:01 pm

Awful mentality displayed by Pioli today.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:01 pm

Worst part of it all was the failure to capitalise on United who were not the least bit impressive. Early season Milan, or more so not such a weakened Milan would ravage this team.

God good they were terrible and its embarrassing losing to a team we dominated for 3 and a half, halves.

The eternal hope for revenge for that UCL tie in which SAF knocked out Leonardo's Milan, will have to wait again. FFS Pioli
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:03 pm

This basically is the ceiling for Pioli. Always comes in to show good results and management with players young and old. But often shows his limits as a generally mid-table at best Italian manager and never goes beyond that or really learns from his mistakes.

He basically is an Italian Owen Coyle.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:04 pm

Thanks @Firenze, semper fidelis !

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Post by Lord Spencer Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:06 pm

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Arquitecto wrote:Pioli the loser of tonight.

No decisive in his game plan. Somehow thought being a total yuppie by playing Samu as False 9 would work.

Made changes too late. Did not prevent the "Run down the clock" Mentality Milan took in approach to the second half, which absorbed pressure immediately and resulted in the most comical defending all season, for Pogba's goal.

Im done with this season.


Without knowing the full context of Milan's season, I agree.

It seemed like they were almost waiting untill Ibra arrived. the collective strategy seemed to be lets just wait and see, perhaps we score, perhaps not, but lets wait for Ibra.

Then he gets on the pitch he you stopped playing any football. The ball spent much of the game in the air and if anything, you seemed less likely to score.

Man Utd are horribly weak when you isolate the centerbacks in the wide areas, not once did we see that. Not because of anything Utd did, but because it didnt seem a focus at all.


By the tie Ibra came in, we have already lost the game.

Miete and Krunic were out of the game and with them, our Midfield were overrun with Kessie expected to do the heavy lifting. Also, Cala is just back from injury and is not fully match fit.

Kalulu isn't half as good as Calabria in moving the ball and distribution, and Theo is less effective without a ball playing Left-wing in his flank.

Generally, it is a bad idea to bring in Ibra as a sub when chasing a goal, as the tea loses its rhythm. When we start the match with him, it is much more focused.

So, Milan, since the begging of the year, are playing worse because of losing key players to injury and fatigue, and the coach wasn't able to arrest that terrible form. Alternatively, we can say that Milan was running on pure belief for a while which was shattered with the dual losses to Atalanta and Inter (in the Coppa Italia).
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:10 pm

Problem with subbing on Ibra let alone having him on the pitch is the game goes to his pace when on field even when he is not controlling the ball. And since he is not exactly urgent with his off-the-ball movement it was too little too late to adapt.

Yes Henderson saved United there from his header but the team instruction to rely solely on him made us predictable and lost any dominance established first half.


I dont like excuses or making them but this match could not have been timed worse than it was, today. Injuries, fatigue, form etc.
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