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Post by Kaladin Wed May 12, 2021 2:24 am

@Casciavit wrote:I haven't seen a minute of Maignan, but I read he's had 15 clean sheets with Lille. He's 6'3 as well which is perfect goalkeeper height.

Obviously Donarrumma is the safe bet, but he's a money hungry pos. He's going to continually demand more over time since we gave him 6M/y when he was 18 years old. I read Raiola was asking for 12M while Maldini offered 8M. Even if they find common ground at 10M, he still isn't good enough for that kind of money and the drama he brings with him every contract extension IMO.


He won't be kept in the long term, i expect him to move in the near future but not next season. I reckon there will be a release clause in his contract either for a set amount or certain teams.

Right now, we really need a vice-Ibra (Vlahovic who is out of contract next season), a RW (Thauvin to Mexico, so thats off) and an AM if Hakan fucks off. And if we sell that DOnkey Leao, we need another LW as well.

I'm watching the Udinese match right now, and i'm really liking the look of De Paul, though he will cost 40m.

My suggestion:

Out:
Hakan free
Leao 25m
Castillejo 15m
Krunic 8m
Hauge 15m

63m

In
Vlahovic 40m
De Paul 40m
Orsolini 15m
Depay free
Tomori 28m
Meite 8m
Emerson (loan)
Renew Brahim

130m

So a net transfer budget of 67m, compared to 60m previous summer. As well everyone mentioned will be within the wage structure, Depay is demanding 5m p/y which seems very much in line imo


Ibra/Vlahovic
Depay/Rebic-De Paul/Brahim-Orsolini/Saelemakers
Kessie/Meite-Bennacer/Tonali
Theo/Emerson-Tomori/Romagnoli-Kjaer/Gabbia-Calabria/Kalulu
Donnarumma/Tata

Of course, its all contingent if we make CL.

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Post by Robespierre Wed May 12, 2021 2:34 am

Do you rate Meite also just as backup ?
Always been crap for me, and for " always" I include also Torino years
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Post by JespSwe Wed May 12, 2021 2:46 am

@Robespierre wrote:Do you rate Meite also just as backup ?
Always been crap for me, and for " always" I include also Torino years


he is ok he has good ball playing skills and possession but incredibly slow. also easily succumbs to pressure.
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Post by JespSwe Wed May 12, 2021 3:20 am

@Kaladin wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:I haven't seen a minute of Maignan, but I read he's had 15 clean sheets with Lille. He's 6'3 as well which is perfect goalkeeper height.

Obviously Donarrumma is the safe bet, but he's a money hungry pos. He's going to continually demand more over time since we gave him 6M/y when he was 18 years old. I read Raiola was asking for 12M while Maldini offered 8M. Even if they find common ground at 10M, he still isn't good enough for that kind of money and the drama he brings with him every contract extension IMO.


He won't be kept in the long term, i expect him to move in the near future but not next season. I reckon there will be a release clause in his contract either for a set amount or certain teams.

Right now, we really need a vice-Ibra (Vlahovic who is out of contract next season), a RW (Thauvin to Mexico, so thats off) and an AM if Hakan fucks off. And if we sell that DOnkey Leao, we need another LW as well.

I'm watching the Udinese match right now, and i'm really liking the look of De Paul, though he will cost 40m.

My suggestion:

Out:
Hakan free
Leao 25m
Castillejo 15m
Krunic 8m
Hauge 15m

63m

In
Vlahovic 40m
De Paul 40m
Orsolini 15m
Depay free
Tomori 28m
Meite 8m
Emerson (loan)
Renew Brahim

130m

So a net transfer budget of 67m, compared to 60m previous summer. As well everyone mentioned will be within the wage structure, Depay is demanding 5m p/y which seems very much in line imo


Ibra/Vlahovic
Depay/Rebic-De Paul/Brahim-Orsolini/Saelemakers
Kessie/Meite-Bennacer/Tonali
Theo/Emerson-Tomori/Romagnoli-Kjaer/Gabbia-Calabria/Kalulu
Donnarumma/Tata

Of course, its all contingent if we make CL.


no to dollarrumma but he is going to renew if CL is confirmed. club and fans has been getting threats from riola and even if he renews, this is going to continue. dunno how long before club will run out of calm.

also just to give an idea about riola demands, he wants 12 million for 2 years with release clause of 30 million added should milan not qualify for CL. also this is a warning sign to a club ... if club reaches agreement for 8 million or 10million a year with donnarruma, then im saying it right now they will have serious problem renewing kessie, calabria, bennacer, theo's contract.

this is exactly one of the reason why hakan's agent is pushing for 6 million a year. its so absurd that before dollarumma reached his 20th birthday he was sitting at 6.5 million a year after tax and now he demands 12 million through riola.


My ideal situation should we qualify for CL is,

Out:

Castillejo 8m (interested parties - valencia, villarreal, sevilla, malaga)
krunic 8m (interested parties - torino, Freiburg - not now atm)
Raphael leao 25m (interested parties - Wolverhampton)
Romagnoli 30m (interested parties - Juventus, Barcelona)
Donnarrumma free (interested parties - Juventus, PSG, Real Madrid, Chelsea, ManUtd)
Hakan - free (interested parties - Juventus, ManUtd)
Caldara from 15m to 8m (interested parties - none reported, Atalanta decided against buy option for 15m)
Conti 8m (interested parties - none atm, return from parma, obligation void due to relegation)
Laxalt (interested parties - none reported, return from Celtic, no buy option agreed)


potential sales -> 80m + ; seems impossible to even find buyers


In:
*legit linked with milan that i wish it to happen,

Maignan  20m GK Lille OSC
Charles De Ketelaere, 20m AM/CM Club Brugge
Nikola Vlasic 20m, AM/RW , CSKA Moscow or Josip Iličić 8m, RW, Atalanta
Belotti 30m, FW, Torino or  Vlahovic ; has contract until 2023 with 60 million starting price)
Tomori 28m, CB/RB , Chelsea
Tonali 25m, CM, CDM, option to buy confirmed
Brahim Diaz, renew loan from Real Madrid
Danilo D’Ambrosio, free Inter Milan


potential spending -> Over 130m which is impossible but if we can get half the players based on priorities due to shortage of players in specific positions


Ibra/Belotti
Rebic/ Charles De Ketelaere / Iličić
kessie / Bennacer
Theo/ Tomori / Kjaer / Calabria
Maignan


very unlikely going to happen but based on currently linked players
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Post by M99 Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm

@rincon wrote:Inter are asking players and coaches to let go of 2 months of salaries, leading to uncertainties on Conte and the squad continuing.

Juve are collapsing.

Milan, Lazio, and Napoli are still banter clubs.

Mourinho's Roma vs Gasperini's Atalanta for the scudetto next season?


Imagine calling us a banter club after we smashed you in your own backyard.

You are heading to Europa while having the best player of the generation playing for you lmao that is beyond banter.
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Post by rincon Wed May 12, 2021 4:06 pm

Calma. You beat us in Turin for the 1st time in 10 years after 9 scudettos won in a row.
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Post by M99 Wed May 12, 2021 4:08 pm

@Robespierre wrote:Do you rate Meite also just as backup ?
Always been crap for me, and for " always" I include also Torino years


He is a donkey. Worse than Krunic.
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Post by Robespierre Wed May 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Roma aren't that good and Mourinho has lost his special though. I think there are more chances for Napoli to improve next year, Osimheh is proving to be good after his adaption period.
I don't know if it's enough to be Scudetto contenders while Atalanta are potentially this.
They need of a victory to grow of mentality : this Coppa Italia
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Post by rincon Wed May 12, 2021 9:05 pm

It was a joke. No chance that Roma wins the scudetto next season. Too many teams are better prepared. Let's see where we and Inter are in August.
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Post by rincon Wed May 12, 2021 11:51 pm

Better lineup vs Sassuolo than vs Milan

Sassuolo: Consigli; Muldur, Chiriches, Ferrari, Kyriakopoulos; Boga, Djuricic, Obiang, Berardi, Locatelli; Raspadori

Juventus: Buffon; Danilo, De Ligt, Bonucci, Alex Sandro; Kulusevski, Arthur, Rabiot, Chiesa; Dybala, Ronaldo

Away to Sassuolo, them in top form us in terrible one and we need to win to stay with hope in the race. Doesn't look good.

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Torino (3-5-2): Sirigu; Bremer, Lyanco, Buongiorno; Singo, Baselli, Mandragora, Linetty, Rodriguez; Zaza, Bonazzoli

Milan (4-2-3-1): Donnarumma; Calabria, Kjaer, Tomori, Theo Hernandez; Bennacer, Kessie; Castillejo, Diaz, Calhanoglu; Rebic.

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Inter:Radu; Skriniar, Ranocchia, D'Ambrosio; Darmian, Barella, Brozovic, Vecino, Perisic; Sanchez, Lukaku

Roma: Fuzato; Karsdorp, Mancini, Kumbulla, Santon; Darboe, Cristante; Pedro, Pellegrini, Mkhitaryan; Dzeko

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Not going to bother with Atalanta, they'll smash Benevento
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Post by Kaladin Thu May 13, 2021 12:34 am

As usual, we struggle against a 3-5-2, watch us lose this
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Post by Kaladin Thu May 13, 2021 12:35 am

THEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOO WHAT A FUCKING GOAL
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu May 13, 2021 12:38 am

All top 4 teams winning so far. Juve are in trouble
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu May 13, 2021 12:40 am

Sassulo just missed a penalty
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 12:40 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:All top 4 teams winning so far. Juve are in trouble

If Atalanta or Milan loses AND we beat Sassuolo and Inter we still don't qualify due to h2h.

We need Napoli to drop points but they already beat Udinese yesterday so only two easy matches left for them.

It is very unlikely that we qualify for CL.
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Post by Kaladin Thu May 13, 2021 12:43 am

Kessie 2-0
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu May 13, 2021 12:43 am

@rincon, Juve don't have the h2h against Napoli either right? They have an away goal
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 12:46 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:@rincon, Juve don't have the h2h against Napoli either right? They have an away goal

Yes. We need to win all matches and hope that Napoli drop points so that we would be ahead. We cannot tie them.
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 12:47 am

Man Rabiot does such lazy shit in defense and in midfield some times then comes up with moves and goals like that.

If only he had a different brain. He needs to be coached by Conte.
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Post by Robespierre Thu May 13, 2021 12:49 am

Sassuolo can't score today, at least 3 good chances missed
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 12:51 am

Sassuolo play amazing football. The difference in coaching of these two teams is a stark contrast.

If we swapped Boga and Raspadori for Ronaldo and Dybala we would be like 3 goals down.
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 12:52 am

Boga's shooting Laughing

Traore is some talent. Excellent vision and passing technique
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Post by S Thu May 13, 2021 1:22 am

It doesn't matter what we do today, Inter will crush us next week and put us out of our misery.

I don't think we've won 3 games in a row in the league this season, we are certainly not going to do it when the pressure is high.

The Milan game was a must win, but we didn't just lose that game, we even lost the H2H.

This club has sealed it's place in the Europa league next season. You can book it.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 13, 2021 1:42 am

Are the 102 points from Conte's 13/14 season at Juve the league point record?
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 1:43 am

Yes
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Post by rincon Thu May 13, 2021 1:45 am

100 juve goals for Ronaldo
100 juve goals for Dybala

Both in this match
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