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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:03 pm

Varane sucks. I really don't understand why anybody would think otherwise at this point.

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Post by Perucho21 Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:31 pm

There's no one available that is of his quality and experience
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:53 pm

I completely get that. Players are expensive now, and Varane with all his flaws, is still an experienced CB who can be quite useful at times, provided Ramos is also there to cover for his mistakes. But yeah, overall, he's a defender who has regressed quite dramatically and still living off the GOAT status he once embodied and no longer possess.

We should start looking for a replacement though because once Ramos retires, he'll leave behind a gaping hole that not even 1000 Varane's can fill.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:57 pm

How many times have we made those comments about Ramos, Kroos, CR etc... in the past? You also have to accept that the form of a player can dip and then go back to what it used to be. Varane is pretty damn great when on form.

Also last I checked, a center back needs a partner that balances his strength and weaknesses. Militao doesn’t hence why they don’t look good. I recall a time when Pepe Ramos was disastrous as a paring at the back lol
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Post by CBarca Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:49 pm

I like to whine about Madrid as much as anyone and god damn did they get lucky once again in their group to somehow top it (although credit to them they won when they needed to)

But they topped their group. If you do that, you get teams like Atalanta.
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:35 am

Well I mean what do you guys want for Real to purposely get 2nd place every season lol
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:57 am

Varane sucks. He is absolutely terrible. Every header is straight to an opposition player in dangerous area, every pass is to Tibo or Ramos. Can't even outmuscle Gabriel Jesus, and lets players run at him 1v1 by backing off. Cant take advantage of his height on corners. Everytime he comes for a ball i wish he ducks and leaves it to Ramos or Casemiro who actually know how to place a header where they want it

Spare me the bullshit. Ramos has elevated this guy to heights he can't even imagine. Ramos would make Nacho look world class nevermind Varane

There aren't any cheap CBs available but I'd try my luck with Militao.
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Post by Jesp Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:00 am

atalanta are no pushover - only concern with atalanta is if they played like against PSG for 70 mins..
atalanta should just play their own game attacking rigorously regardless of risks ... they didnt last time and stayed ultra conservative until the very last minute
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Post by Doc Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:29 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:So we are going to ignore the years of Varane cleaning up Ramos blunders because Ramos scores some penalties or headers now? Laughing you want to get rid of a guy who flawlessly performed in champions league and World Cup finals because of a few months of bad form, just to sign a high potential fifa player? Laughing

I really feel a lot of Madrid fans have forgotten about this. Ramos is awesome now, the defender I wanted since, I don't know, 2007. But for years Varane has been legit covering up Ramos' crazy fking ways.

Nowadays, Varane is playing at a Calamity Jones level. The talent is very much still there buuuut yeah, rotten ass form. Also, not a few bad months, it's been 2 seasons now of rotten ass form.
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Post by S Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:20 pm

Game already over before it even began :facepalm:
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:20 pm

Clear red. Mendy was thru on a 1v1
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Post by rincon Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:21 pm

Come on ref :facepalm:

What a way to condition a tie
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Post by S Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:27 pm

Atalanta are a better away team anyway. If they miraculously hold out to a draw or even a narrow loss, I'd still give them a chance to qualify. Anything beyond that and it's gonna be way out of their reach.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:29 pm

Did this really deserve a straight red?

Looks pretty harsh to me.
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Post by S Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:30 pm

Damn Zapata is off injured as well

Uphill battle for Atalanta now
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:31 pm

Atalanta defender was clearly the last man. Mendy was 100 percent getting to that ball, likely even score. What is there to dispute?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:31 pm

Arguably denying a goalscoring opportunity
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Post by S Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:31 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:Did this really deserve a straight red?

Looks pretty harsh to me.


Very harsh.

Incredibly lucky break for Madrid.
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Post by rincon Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:32 pm

@S wrote:Damn Zapata is off injured as well

Uphill battle for Atalanta now

Really a pity. Zapata is specially useful in this situation with 10 men for holding up the ball.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:38 pm

@Perucho21 wrote:Atalanta defender was clearly the last man. Mendy was 100 percent getting to that ball, likely even score. What is there to dispute?

Believe me, I'm not complaining, but it sure does look pretty harsh to me. I watched the clip again, and he wasn't the last man, the other Atalanta defender was clearly ahead of the ball as well.

Denying a goalscoring opportunity? Maybe. But is it really a straight red? I can't really say I agree.
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:41 pm

The other defender was no where near mendy, casually jogging Laughing and the direction the ball is going he was definitely not going to close mendy down.

I'm not trying to troll you guys I definitely believe it is a red. A yellow would've been very soft in my opinion. It was a tough quick decision to make and I believe the ref got it right
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:43 pm

You may be right. It was a very tough decision to make, but hopefully now with a man down, Madrid will take advantage of it and score some away goals.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:45 pm

Vinicius is a complete clown
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Post by rincon Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:46 pm

Very harsh decision for the 15th minute to give a straight red for that.
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:54 pm

We will just agree to disagree. But one thing we can agree is that our forwards suck and Atalanta actually looked much better after the red
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Post by S Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:13 pm

Vinicius missing an absolute sitter
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