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Post by CBarca Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 pm

Yeah you literally just fuckin walk into it

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Post by Myesyats Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:33 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Should be more enough by now to get Trump done Ceaucescu style

against the wall, with his wife and family

Spare the children!

or whatever...
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:33 pm

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:34 pm

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:09 am

Don Winslow is a fucking clown tbf

terrible writer, and worse political commentator

as if foreign governments and terrorist organization relied on these kind of news to get their information

as if THAT was the problem about what's happening today

what a fucking idiot, still trying to spin it the "good honest conservatives please take notice, think of our NATIONAL SECURITY" way

these people will have learned nothing from the Trump era whatsoever
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Post by M99 Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:24 am

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Post by Pedram Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 am

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Post by sportsczy Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:41 am

CNN reporting that FBI, etc. were aware of risk and were coordinating with Capitol Hill... but they can't do anything unless asked. They weren't asked until after the riots had already reached the doors of Congress.

So yeah, deplorable people rioting. No doubt. But planning by Congress was horrible too.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 am

Are we really surprised though? He's pretty much been trying to instigate this sort of reaction since his election loss. He loved what he was seeing out there.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:54 am

@Casciavit wrote:Are we really surprised though? He's pretty much been trying to instigate this sort of reaction since his election loss. He loved what he was seeing out there.

Textbook fascist party leader. Nothing to see here, next...
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:32 am

Seems clear that today there was a coup attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power in the US and prevent a democratically elected leader from taking office.

Sounds like the US could use a US intervention.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:44 am

On the good news side... Congress and Senate reconvened and will stay as long as needed to certify. Given the events, i doubt that they will object past the Arizona one (you never know with these Trump-tards though).

Get this over with.

Bigger issue is that there are reports from sources within the White House that Trump has literally "lost his mind". There's talk of invoking the 25th amendment or have Congress pass a censorship order against the President (happened to McCarthy in the past).

Another interesting part is that the secret services and the pentagon were coordinating with... Pence. No mention of Trump as if he didn't exist.

Only 15 days... but he can still do a lot of damage.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:54 am

Laughing

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Post by Myesyats Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:57 am

this needs to end in impeachment ffs

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:08 am

Election confirmation or next season of The Walking Dead... you guys decide

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Also, this absolute madlad taking a pic in Pelosi's office Laughing (Sports is that you??)

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Post by Warrior Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:38 am

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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:36 am

People shouldn't think the capitol is not secure, the second a brown person sets a foot on the first front step, the Marines are going to helo in, and strafe everyone in a 500m radius with some warning salvos from a red-hot side mounted vulcan.

If one of those MAGA freaks had called for Medicaid for all anywhere around there, the cops would've shot all of them.

This is just white, not even fucking white, this was right-wing privilege at it's purest. Insane display. What a shithole banana republic the US have become. #sad
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Post by El Gunner Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:43 am

#WeLoveItHere :hearteyes:
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Post by Robespierre Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:57 pm

USA faced a yes long-standing racism also before Trump, I'd say an institutional racism.
But after  the arrival of  Trump  it was  free for anti-Semites, racists , neo Nazis / Fascists, neo Confederates and yesterday's is not the end, it is perhaps the beginning.
Opened pandora's box.
For years, US counterterrorism experts have repeated that the greater danger  to the  national security is represented from  internal terrorists, white supremacist terrorism, not the  Arabs as someone tried to suggest .......
now we  have a public face that has a following composed of 70 mln of consumers of any kind of crap
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Post by Babun Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:09 pm

Disgraceful to say the least, Trump is a criminal and should be charged as one with an attempted coup d'etat and a direct attack at the democratic transfer of power after Biden takes over.
@Robespierre wrote:USA faced a yes long-standing racism also before Trump, I'd say an institutional racism.
But after  the arrival of  Trump  it was  free for anti-Semites, racists , neo Nazis / Fascists, neo Confederates and yesterday's is not the end, it is perhaps the beginning.
Opened pandora's box.
For years, US counterterrorism experts have repeated that the greater danger  to the  national security is represented from  internal terrorists, white supremacist terrorism, not the  Arabs as someone tried to suggest .......
now we  have a public face that has a following composed of 70 mln of consumers of any kind of crap

There're idiots in every country. Legitimizing them is beyond decadent. Trump is a criminal full stop.


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Post by McLewis Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:13 pm

Trump isn't the only that should be removed. Hawley and Cruz should be forced to resign. McConnell, despite his speech, should be forced to resign. McCarthy as well. Rudi Giuliani needs to be arrested. Donald Trump Jr needs to be arrested.

There are so many Republicans in Congress who not only aided Trump in this massive misinformation campaign that led up to this, but willingly staked their political images on getting this election overturned when they knew it was impossible. They lied to people and told them otherwise. Trump is ultimately the most responsible, but he is not alone in that.

Right-wing media personalities like Hannity, Mark Levin, Carlson and so many others have propagandized this bullshit for 2 months. They've whipped these people into a lather and then clutched their pearls when the predictable happened.

None of these people will take responsibility for what happened. No one should expect them to. It's why they should be forced from their positions of power.

I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.

This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.
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Post by Babun Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:25 pm

@McLewis wrote:Trump isn't the only that should be removed. Hawley and Cruz should be forced to resign. McConnell, despite his speech, should be forced to resign. McCarthy as well. Rudi Giuliani needs to be arrested. Donald Trump Jr needs to be arrested.

There are so many Republicans in Congress who not only aided Trump in this massive misinformation campaign that led up to this, but willingly staked their political images on getting this election overturned when they knew it was impossible. They lied to people and told them otherwise. Trump is ultimately the most responsible, but he is not alone in that.

Right-wing media personalities like Hannity, Mark Levin, Carlson and so many others have propagandized this bullshit for 2 months. They've whipped these people into a lather and then clutched their pearls when the predictable happened.

None of these people will take responsibility for what happened. No one should expect them to. It's why they should be forced from their positions of power.

I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.

This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.

Not all republicans are crazy, fanatic rednecks. I think a good portion of them were appaled by what they saw yesterday. If my assumption is right, republicans as a party are in deep sh*t come next years which is a good thing. They'll have to rebuild from scratch to be competitive again.
I agree with the rest of your ressentiments though. They should all lose their positions of power.
Democrats on the other hand should try to bring "people together" again to get a stronghold for years to come. No more splitting into meaningless pitiful factions should be the motto.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:41 pm

@McLewis wrote:I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.  


It was kind of amazing to finally see where Republicans hit a limit with Trump. Even Pence and McConnell disowned this, all while Trump was tweeting "I know how you feel". SMH.
@McLewis wrote:This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.

Republicans should not be locked out of power. These people need a voice, and if they don't have one they will resort to violence again, and the next time it will be better planned and more effective. What Biden should do is elevate the moderate wing of the republican party by giving them a few calculated wins so that they once again have more sway than the right-wing nuts. That way the US democracy will be healthier.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:16 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@McLewis wrote:I listened to Republicans in both chambers magically find their spine yesterday. Too little too late. What happened yesterday will be in attack ads for decades to come. Every single one of them (not just the ones who objected to the electoral count) who supported Trump and enabled him needs to lose their seat.


It was kind of amazing to finally see where Republicans hit a limit with Trump. Even Pence and McConnell disowned this, all while Trump was tweeting "I know how you feel". SMH.
@McLewis wrote:This is what should happen. But it won't. I have no faith in Democrats' ability to seize this moment and crystalize it into a lockout of Republicans from positions of power for the foreseeable future.

Republicans should not be locked out of power. These people need a voice, and if they don't have one they will resort to violence again, and the next time it will be better planned and more effective. What Biden should do is elevate the moderate wing of the republican party by giving them a few calculated wins so that they once again have more sway than the right-wing nuts. That way the US democracy will be healthier.
Nazis don't need a voice, and they certainly need to be locked out of power.

No pussyfooting around it, sorry. This was a Nazi coup attempt with the help and instigation of the highest members and officials of the Republican party. These people all need to go to jail, really.

Giving them calculated wins? Textbook appeasement. It won't work. It will only work to push the framing further to the right. You give them a finger they'll take the whole people and put them in camps.

But of course Biden too is of the opinion that there are fine people on both sides, in the senate..


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Post by Art Morte Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:19 pm

The US needs more political parties, it's stupid to try to shoehorn that divided & diverse a nation into just two juggernaut parties.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:22 pm

@Art Morte wrote:The US needs more political parties, it's stupid to try to shoehorn that divided & diverse a nation into just two juggernaut parties.


Yes, absolutely. It's amazing what dumbing down ths division into two does to the whole political discourse, political scientists involved.
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