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Post by Thimmy Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:29 am

One thing I’ve noticed in Varane ever since joined us, is that his form doesn’t really fluctuate much. At his best, he’s very solid. Composed, deals with incoming trouble without looking too flashy, save for his rare, speedy runs.

At his worst, his timing and positioning are often poor, and he tends to struggle with dealing with even simple threats. His trademark composure seems to just vanish for no apparent reason. But he’s not inconsistent in the traditional sense of the word. When he’s been poor, he’s typically been poor for weeks at a time, and our RM section has been quick to question his general ability.

When he’s good, I think he rarely showcases exceptional ability at anything, but he looks sustainably solid and no one complains. I personally think he’s been mostly very reliable throughout his time with us, if hardly ever an amazing performer.

I can appreciate players who do their job without being flashy about it. However, I feel like he’s got two gears, and when he shifts into the lower one, he stays there for a while. I expect it to be the same this time around. Once he starts performing up to standard again, we probably won’t see this lesser version of him for the remainder of the season.

That’s how I’ve observed him, ever since he had his first patch of poor performances for us. I hope I’m right about this, and he’s not actually started declining at 27 years of age, which I doubt is the case. I don’t honestly agree with the notion that Ramos has always made him look good. I still remember matches under Mourinho where Varane expertly provided cover for Ramos, who was constantly caught out of position.

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Post by Robespierre Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:54 am

@Perucho21 wrote:Its going to be a potential Manita. Inter will happily sit back and let Real cross 10000000000 billion times and hit us on the counter. Its a perfect set up for them. We stand no chance. We were able to better barca because of this tactic.

Agree for a tie mate
My table reports that we need of 1 point against Real and 6 against Shaktar and Borussia Monchengladbach for going on
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:43 am

If anyone wants to take a trip down memory lane:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t27856-varane-appreciation-thread

hype was off the charts after that clasico match Laughing

Also from that to this:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t41689-we-can-do-better-than-varane

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:32 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:He was very good up until the injury he sustained to his knee. After that, his level dropped significantly and was never able to recapture his pre-injury magic.

The thing with Varane is that he fell victim of his own vanity. Instead of trying to displace Pepe through hard work and humility, he chose to bully the club into giving him a starting role even though he didn't do anything to justify it.


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Post by rincon Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:53 pm

The kiss of death
@Don't call me James wrote:Varane top 3 CB in the world COMFORTABLY.


Turned into the French Rugani
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:26 pm

The worst thing is, Ramos is nearly 35 and we all know Perez is an ageist. He'll get max 1 perhaps 2 year extension after constant backlash from the fans. After that we'll be looking for Varane to steer the backline. FML, kill me now!!
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:30 pm

I agree with the notion that Varane has fallen off and for quite some time now and I love Ramos, as always. But to say Ramos is who supports him in defence is utter nonsense Ramos is not, and never will be a good defender, nor has been (bar his early RB days).
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:18 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:I agree with the notion that Varane has fallen off and for quite some time now and I love Ramos, as always. But to say Ramos is who supports him in defence is utter nonsense Ramos is not, and never will be a good defender, nor has been (bar his early RB days).

Ramos is actually a very good defender. What he lacks in defending, he makes up for it with insane leadership and powerful presence.

Without him, Varane is like a lost kitten. He sucks already even with Ramos around, but I have seen him play without Ramos and it was a sad sight to behold.

So yes, Hala is completely spot on there.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:23 pm

Ramos will forever be a legend in my eyes and a favourite but I cannot classify him as a good defender, if we are speaking of the bare fundamentals. The system he is in and the midfield in front of him too, protects him well. He is not malleable in adapting to any other system.

If we are speaking as a whole then of course he is very good in defending per say because his leadership in the backline influences the whole backline not to much your mentioned presence of him, provides confidence.


Varane lacks any of the two attributes you mentioned and in my eyes just failed to evolve into what we all expected him to be.
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Post by Thimmy Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:53 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:If anyone wants to take a trip down memory lane:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t27856-varane-appreciation-thread

hype was off the charts after that clasico match Laughing

Also from that to this:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t41689-we-can-do-better-than-varane

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«We can do better than Varane» was basically a troll thread I started for the sake of instigating Sports while I was drunk on vacation Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:26 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Lukaku vs Varane. My God, this is going to be a nightmsre for us isn't it


Voodoo .

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:40 pm

Blimey, just when i thought we were over and out, we get a lifeline

Can't wait to see Lautauro bully Varane like every other midget striker

Not to worry Robes, Martinez has got this :coffee:

I exoect to be waking up to good news tomorrow
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Post by Robespierre Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:53 pm

@AlphaBeast wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:from what I've seen Hazard at Real is like Eriksen at Inter, two great players who are distant relatives of what they've proved in London


relax, Eden's gonna make you eat your words soon.


And in fact Hazard has resuscitated just in time for this match ... dat timing ....... thank me
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:56 pm

Varane: I make Ramos better and Ramos makes me better

rofl this guy
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Post by Freeza Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:23 pm

I'm not sure he's wrong. They fit each other really well. Varane has been a horror show in CL since the City game though. And those games were without Ramos.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:09 pm

Ramos can play with any CB and they'll look WC. Case in point Nacho. Varane without Ramos is Sevilla level
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Post by Doc Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:37 am

We are just gonna pretend that all those years of Ramos being ridiculously dumb as a CB didn't exist huh...
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:01 am

@Doc wrote:We are just gonna pretend that all those years of Ramos being ridiculously dumb as a CB didn't exist huh...
as a ramos hater, the ramos historical revisionism as of late has been nauseating
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Post by S Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:27 pm

What a gift Laughing

Great assist by Hakimi
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Post by S Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:35 pm

Real cruising here

No surprises

2-0
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Post by S Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:37 pm

Great assist by Barella

Nice finish by Lautaro

2-1
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:48 pm

All Vidal does is kick every leg that he sees
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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:53 pm

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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:55 pm

Shame we were also playing good before that incredible mistake by Hakimi that causes 1-0. As always we bottle it

Forced to play with Perisic as SS because Lukaku is broken and Sanchez isn't fit ( he was injured too ).. We should to try to keep  this result for half of 2nd time and then trusting in Sanchez when he enters pitch ... Not optimistic anyway, we' re going to lose it
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Post by adun101 Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:02 pm

@Doc wrote:We are just gonna pretend that all those years of Ramos being ridiculously dumb as a CB didn't exist huh...


We got into a CL final because of his stupidity
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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:03 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:All Vidal does is kick every leg that he sees

Vidal is finished
It's like when we had signed Davids in 2004
Former Juve "legend" with Barca and experience .. good expectations but..
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