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Post by Casciavit Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:30 am

Liverpool probably the ideal set up for him.

Donkeys behind him to run for him. Pace merchants as wingers to run ahead of him. Firmino upgrade at F9.

Can't say he's the ideal player for Klopp and Liverpool though. The guy would need to be subbed off after 20 minutes of gegenpressing oh my days.

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Post by Valkyrja Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 am

he should come to us if he wants the CL lol
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Post by Kaladin Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:13 am

Lowkey want him to leave just to see how a Messi-less Barca manages
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Post by Myesyats Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:14 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Meanwhile


200mil euros + Bernardo should do it

City will be elevated by having a legend in the squad and Barca will be financially relieved. every1 wins
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:24 am

Myesyats wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Meanwhile


200mil euros + Bernardo should do it

City will be elevated by having a legend in the squad and Barca will be financially relieved. every1 wins


Probably 150 mil and Bernardo

I just realized City have Mahrez, Silva and Torres who all play on the right. Surely either Mahrez or Silva will get the axe if Messi goes to City
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Post by Collblanc Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:07 am

Rumours Messi to City intensifying; more and more tier 1 reporting

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Post by danyjr Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:55 am

City set to announce major new sponsorship deal of £500 million by the Abu Dhabi Taxi Company. This company will have naming rights to City's training ground car park. A major coup for this well-known global company owned by private individuals with no connections to the Abu Dhabi sovereign wealth fund, and of course is NOT an attempt to fuck over UEFA FFP rules.
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:30 am

love how messi has its own transfer speculation thread and how it is the most intriguing one than any player i guess we have ever done in this forum.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:40 pm

I love that people think Messi is already at City but how is he gonna get there? City are going to break the transfer fee record for a 33 years old player? Barca are not letting him go otherwise, whether Barto is president or whether the socios vote him out.

Let's enjoy Messi's last season at the club, he probably wont renew his deal at this pace. His last season at barca and no fans in the stands, sad
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Post by Firenze Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:43 pm

I can see City spending whatever, even if he is 33, you're having the greatest player of all time attached to your team, a team that wasn't really shit just a decade ago

even if they just get 2 seasons from him and had to spend a billion they probably want to make it happen
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:43 pm

Because nobody else will pay what's necessary and the man himself wants to go there.

Pretty simple logic.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:49 pm

^^exactly. I think all parties involved would try their best to settle a deal.

It is only right the Messiah plays for a stint in the GOAT league while he still has fairly good legs under him.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:51 pm

No it's not simple logic. Simple logic is: he has a contract, barca don't want to sell and he can go for free in June. Barca can enforce that, and that's what they are trying to do. As great as Messi is, he is also now trying to embarrass Barcelona and those directors wont let him. Even the ones that are asking Barto to resign are only doing that, so Messi can stay
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Post by Myesyats Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:56 pm

Not even Bartomeu's resignation would stop Messi from leaving. The Argentine will not wear the Barcelona shirt again. [onda cero]


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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:01 pm



Sources from La Liga believe that Barcelona is right. The extension of the league due to covid does not impact work contracts. If there is no agreement between the club and player, FIFA will allow a provisional transfer, but if Barca lodge a complaint in a Barcelona court or TAS, they will win. The club insists that Messi has not activated his release clause and are asking him to rethink his decision. The club can't accept that he leaves for free. That would create an economic loss to the club that a Socio can sue the club (Barto) for
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Post by El Gunner Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:No it's not simple logic. Simple logic is: he has a contract, barca don't want to sell and he can go for free in June. Barca can enforce that, and that's what they are trying to do. As great as Messi is, he is also now trying to embarrass Barcelona and those directors wont let him. Even the ones that are asking Barto to resign are only doing that, so Messi can stay

only if they want to treat their greatest player of all time like that. Messi would be sour. Barcelona want to sell away all his best mates in the squad. The dressing room would be sour.

So yea, i dont think the board really want that. It would be a completely wasted year. Why delay your rebuild for one more year.
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Post by Firenze Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:07 pm

Myesyats wrote:Not even Bartomeu's resignation would stop Messi from leaving. The Argentine will not wear the Barcelona shirt again. [onda cero]


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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:15 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:No it's not simple logic. Simple logic is: he has a contract, barca don't want to sell and he can go for free in June. Barca can enforce that, and that's what they are trying to do. As great as Messi is, he is also now trying to embarrass Barcelona and those directors wont let him. Even the ones that are asking Barto to resign are only doing that, so Messi can stay

only if they want to treat their greatest player of all time like that. Messi would be sour. Barcelona want to sell away all his best mates in the squad. The dressing room would be sour.

So yea, i dont think the board really want that. It would be a completely wasted year. Why delay your rebuild for one more year.
the situation is already sour. Barto and this board also don’t want to be remembered for causing Messi to leave Barca. Their strategy now is to say he left when his contract ended or we received the biggest transfer fee ever for him. This has become a matter of pride and there is not a single person in Barcelona thinking « sheesh we can rebuild faster if Messi leaves now » lmao. Whether you are pro Barto or not, Messi leaving is not something you want, period.
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Post by Collblanc Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:21 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:No it's not simple logic. Simple logic is: he has a contract


..and in that contract states he can leave for free on the 10th of june, each season. The legal discussion now is: with what intent was 10th of june put there? Is it because its * days after a final? Is it because its * days before the end of the season? Or is it what Barca considers the end of the season? If they can clear the air and acknowledge why that specific date is there than the claim can be made that under the current circumstances the date should be *. As of now, different claims have been seen. If the intent of the date was 'end of the season' then Messi has a claim to invoke the contract; apparently Barca signed a FIFA contract agreeing to the extension of the season.  FIFA acknowledged that the season has not ended by that date, because of COVID.

There is also a claim that Messi has sent the burofax 3 days before the Bayern match - not confirmed, but it would make things more interesting.
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Post by danyjr Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:24 pm

Like some have said, no point keeping a player who doesn't want to be at the club. Barcelona will benefit a lot from his sale, not only from a transfer fee but more importantly his salary. Forget about his release clause though. Nobody will pay €700m, not even for a 21 year old Messi with 4 years on his contract. A figure of around €150 million is plausible and there are clubs that can afford it. A player + cash deal would do too (Bernardo Silva + cash would be great coup for Barça).

With Messi gone, Fartomeu and his crew will be gone too. This would be a complete restart for the club, and one I would argue Barça direly needs more than they need Messi right now, especially with the cash flow problems the club are dealing with at the moment.

If Messi is convinced to stay, it should be for a good reason. If he wants to leave because his amigos are being pushed out of the club, so be it. No player should be bigger than the club. Not even Messi.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:26 pm

What we have seen so far is that all contracts have remained binding despite COVID. If your contract was ending in June this summer, you would have negotiated a special deal with your club to stay or you would have left. Extension of the season does not automatically extend one player’s contract. Messi can argue his case in court but he will lose. And beside, how long before they go in front of TAS or a judge to discuss that, with a few months left on his deal? If I’m Barto I don’t move an inch until I get a transfer record fee. He will destroy Messi and his lawyers in court, lol @ covid
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Post by Nivash Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:39 pm

Collblanc wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:No it's not simple logic. Simple logic is: he has a contract


..and in that contract states he can leave for free on the 10th of june, each season. The legal discussion now is: with what intent was 10th of june put there? Is it because its * days after a final? Is it because its * days before the end of the season? Or is it what Barca considers the end of the season? If they can clear the air and acknowledge why that specific date is there than the claim can be made that under the current circumstances the date should be *. As of now, different claims have been seen. If the intent of the date was 'end of the season' then Messi has a claim to invoke the contract; apparently Barca signed a FIFA contract agreeing to the extension of the season.  FIFA acknowledged that the season has not ended by that date, because of COVID.

There is also a claim that Messi has sent the burofax 3 days before the Bayern match - not confirmed, but it would make things more interesting.


If the date is hard coded, and there is nothing in the contract setting out the intention of the date, then arguing about why it was chosen is a fool's errand. If the intention was to choose a date following the end of a season, it's very easy to create the concept in the wording and have reference to that concept. Contracts usually also include wording that the document itself contains the full extent of the agreement between the parties, so an appeal to discussions and negotiations will also end in the same place.

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Post by Myesyats Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:54 pm

I would be happy with 150M+Bernardo.

Then we can start building a modern, physical team where everyone presses, leave the stone age behind. Maybe look at La Masia again for new talent instead of ignoring it and letting promising youngsters leave for other clubs.
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Post by eelir Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:58 pm

Massi is gone, he has made up his mind. I just think he is hoping he kills two birds with one stone. He gets one last gift to Barca on the way out by dethroning Barto.

Barca is in major overhaul and i do not expect any titles or anything in next 1-2 seasons. That is 1-2 season too much for Messi at his age. It would do good to both Barca and Messi if he leaves. I just hope we get some money in return.
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Post by danyjr Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:16 pm

Myesyats wrote:I would be happy with 150M+Bernardo.

Then we can start building a modern, physical team where everyone presses, leave the stone age behind. Maybe look at La Masia again for new talent instead of ignoring it and letting promising youngsters leave for other clubs.
Not ideal but negative net spend. Not a bad line up for a transition season. More importantly, no Fartomeu.

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