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Post by Warrior Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:29 pm

We overpaid like 10m for Locatelli and we pay this transfer in instalments so i don't see a big scandal here. I did not like his utilization in a regista role where he's basically invisible instead this guy should play closer to goal.

I don't share the general disgust on Alex Sandro he's a serviceable player, he's not attacking anymore but we know he can cover a lot of ground. On the right the starter should be Cuadrado old but gold. Danilo can play every position in defense. Full backs not a priority for this year imo

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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:41 pm

I get the impression through the yrs that Cuarduado has been one of Juve's most consistently good players right? The way he got pwned by Dembele was typical or not? Looked terrible defensively but a much better attacker, I know he used to be a winger but converted to FB?
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Post by Warrior Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:59 am

Cuadrado's defense is decent i would not call him a lock down defender but he can intercept and win duels aggressively. And yes he got characteristics of a winger that's why he works like a piston on the right side no matter what the team strategy is.
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Post by Warrior Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:30 pm

Is this the official Juve thread now ? If yes maybe we deserve a decent title Laughing

Contacts enabled for Memphis Depay for a loan + mandatory option to buy. He is worth around 20m which is cheap. He brings verticality on the left side or he can play SS even striker. Hope it's a done deal soon.
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Post by S Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:17 am

So Kostic is a done dealio apparently

Szczesny
Danilo-Bremer-Bonucci-Sandro
Locatelli
Zakaria----Fagioli
Di Maria-Vlahovic-Kostic

***Pogba and Chiesa are injured***
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Post by rincon Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:16 pm

There is a great lineup in the somewhere if all our players are fit at some point.

We still need 2 sales and 1-2 more signings after Kostic.
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Post by Warrior Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:28 pm

A team

Chiesa-Vlahovic-Di Maria
Pogba-Zakaria-Locatelli
Sandro-Bremer-Bonucci-Cuadrado
Szczesny

B team

Kostic-Kean-Depay
Fagioli-Paredes-McKennie
MDS-Gatti-Rugani-Danilo
Perin

Not bad Thumbs up i added transfers i expect
It's a bit light as back up CB but Danilo can play there too
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Post by Kaladin Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:52 am

Depay-Vlahovic-Di Maria
Pogba-Locatelli-Zakaria
Kostic-Bremer-Bonucc
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:53 pm

Bonucci-Bremer-Rugani
Cudrado-Arthur-Pogba-Kostic
Vlahovic-Depay/ADM

Jjuve are low key joining the no excuses club
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:27 pm

they have a lot of names in that lineup but only 1 good player in defense, midfield and attack lol
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:34 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Bonucci-Bremer-Rugani
Cudrado-Arthur-Pogba-Kostic
Vlahovic-Depay/ADM

Jjuve are low key joining the no excuses club


They still have the excuse that they play with one less player than their opponents
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:43 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Bonucci-Bremer-Rugani
Cudrado-Arthur-Pogba-Kostic
Vlahovic-Depay/ADM

Jjuve are low key joining the no excuses club


They still have the excuse that they play with one less player than their opponents
I don't count their keeper whoever that is now. I am more interested in the non GK players. And Juve have strengthed in every line with multiple players
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:16 pm

Bonucci - old and washed
Bremer - legit talent
Rugani - wouldnt look out of place in any bottom half backline
Cuadrado - good, getting old
Arthur - generic CM, see Rugani
Pogba - huge questions around him
Kostic - supposedly pretty good but Bundesliga ?
Vlahovic - considered an elite talent when they signed him, stunk it up for them in the second half of the season, thoroughly unimpressive, should still come good but who knows
Depay - Midcarder, should net a lot of goals in Serie A though
ADM - old, probably be a good signing

if all of those players channel their prime moments and stay at that level I agree they're a threat but almost all of them come with big question marks above their head. Plus Allegri seems washed.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:20 pm

They'll potentially have Depay/ADM coming off the bench. That's great. Then you have Paredes who could also start as CM over Arthur who they are close to getting.

That's 6/7 new players who are better than they had before and could make them favourites for the league at the very least and QFs in CL.

Allegri is the only meh part together with their keeper.
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Post by S Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:47 pm

Firenze wrote:Bonucci - old and washed
Bremer - legit talent
Rugani - wouldnt look out of place in any bottom half backline
Cuadrado - good, getting old
Arthur - generic CM, see Rugani
Pogba - huge questions around him
Kostic - supposedly pretty good but Bundesliga ?
Vlahovic - considered an elite talent when they signed him, stunk it up for them in the second half of the season, thoroughly unimpressive, should still come good but who knows
Depay - Midcarder, should net a lot of goals in Serie A though
ADM - old, probably be a good signing

if all of those players channel their prime moments and stay at that level I agree they're a threat but almost all of them come with big question marks above their head. Plus Allegri seems washed.


Mate this is Serie A

Di Maria is going to look like Messi in this league
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Post by Warrior Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:00 pm

Vlahovic flopped because he touched 20 balls per game. Last season our big weakness was inability to create scoring chances. Allegri had us play ultra defensive because as soon as we tried to play vertically we would lose the ball.

Now we have no excuses to play negative football again we added creativity and pace on the wings. In midfield Zakaria-McKennie to find open space and apply pressure then Pogba-Locatelli will distribute the ball and take long shots. There is no need anymore for Rabiot and Arthur 2 players very cerebral with poor reactivity so they end up doing nothing. Paredes is better than both let's see if we can buy him for cheap.

Defense is decent enough for Serie A. With this squad we can win the scudetto, i expect nothing from CL, maybe top the group is a reasonable target.
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Post by rincon Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:11 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Bonucci-Bremer-Rugani
Cudrado-Arthur-Pogba-Kostic
Vlahovic-Depay/ADM

Jjuve are low key joining the no excuses club


They still have the excuse that they play with one less player than their opponents
I don't count their keeper whoever that is now. I am more interested in the non GK players. And Juve have strengthed in every line with multiple players

That's still only 9 players
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:27 pm

rincon wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

They still have the excuse that they play with one less player than their opponents
I don't count their keeper whoever that is now. I am more interested in the non GK players. And Juve have strengthed in every line with multiple players

That's still only 9 players
You are quite right hmm I stand corrected.
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Post by rincon Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:29 pm

Also everyone is forgetting Chiesa.
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Post by Casciavit Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:32 am

Really good transfer market if they can pull off the rumoured signings
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Post by S Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:36 am

Arthur and Rabiot are out

Arthur is being replaced by Fagioli and Rabiot will be replaced by Paredes

We need a new LB as well though
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Post by Warrior Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:39 pm

Interesting first half. We are playing football again.
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Post by rincon Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:28 am

Everyone is confirming that Paredes is signed. Another player that can improve but that also comes with injury issues. That will be the main theme of our season. Depay was too expensive so Milik was signed instead as a back up to Vlahovic.

The only thing pending seems to be Arthur's departure, who seems totally out of the project. Rovella will go on loan to Monza, Miretti will stay, and Allegri said yesterday that he thinks Fagioli will stay, hope its true.

If everyone were to be fit we would look much better than last season, it will take a long time for that to happens though, a mercato that was too busy out of necessity with the season starting early on top of it.

GK: Szczesny, Perin
LB: Alex Sandro, De Sciglio
CB: Bonucci, Bremer, Gatti, Rugani
RB: Danilo
CM: Pogba, Locatelli, Paredes, Rabiot, Miretti, Fagioli, Zakaria
W: Di Maria, Cuadrado, Kean, Chiesa, McKennie
CF: Vlahovic, Milik
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Post by S Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:29 pm

Szczesny
Danilo-Bonucci-Bremer-Sandro
Locatelli-Paredes-Pogba
Di Maria-Vlahovic-Chiesa

This is a good starting eleven for Serie A level but problem is how brittle these new additions are

Everything depends on Allegri now
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Post by Warrior Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:25 pm

Supposedly we will loan the cadaver of Arthur to Sporting Portugal

I'm happy to not be cynical about the management anymore. The team is not tip top because we started from so low at the beginning of summer but now the revamp is enabled. Our moves make sense, we did not gamble on potential, and did not commit too long to veterans.

About Milik, not very exciting, decent at best when healthy and as injury prone as they come. But as back up it's better than nothing.
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Post by Warrior Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:45 am

Liverpool the totally unexpected heroes

Good luck to Arthur and good riddance. Wikipedia page still describe him as a player whose "style of play, very technical, reminds of Xavi Hernandez" Laughing reality is far from that, but maybe in England he'll give an ounce of effort


I read rumors on Zakaria and wtf. Give this guy a chance, if we sell him we go back where we started from in midfield, with nobody really up to the defensive task.
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