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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:20 pm

You really got Morata? How daft

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Post by rincon on Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:29 pm

@Luca wrote:Morata to Juventus:
-9M loan for this season
-Option to extend loan for second season
-Buy option for 45M

Well, we got our #9

Underwhelming and disappointing but let’s hope it’s a functional move that works on the field better than on paper

Read we were leasing him like Cuadrado, with options to extend the loan subsequently reducing the price of the option to buy.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:18 pm

LMAAAOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by Luca on Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:25 pm

@rincon wrote:
@Luca wrote:Morata to Juventus:
-9M loan for this season
-Option to extend loan for second season
-Buy option for 45M

Well, we got our #9

Underwhelming and disappointing but let’s hope it’s a functional move that works on the field better than on paper

Read we were leasing him like Cuadrado, with options to extend the loan subsequently reducing the price of the option to buy.


Yeah I read that too, still preferred Dzeko on a two year deal but that was too good to be true I guess

Let’s see how this goes on the field now. Thankfully we’re not asking Morata to come out and score 30 goals a season, he just doesn’t have that in him

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:23 pm

Juventus have clandestinely moved into a new banter era

People hyping Pirlo's first game is absolutely bizarre, this Juve team is trash, the setup is awkward and lopsided and I woudn't be surprised if they are overtaken by a couple teams even in Serie A this season

CL group draw will be a nailbiter for them too

for example, I'd strongly fancy even Ole's United to beat them every game @S @Firenze
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Post by Perucho21 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:37 pm

From Suarez to Dzeko to Morata

That sucks man
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Post by JespSwe on Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:10 pm

why the heck Juve didnt go for Mandzukic or even let him go for free is beyond me.... i still dont get that
as far as i am aware he is still free agent !! get him or f.. k milan get him XD
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Post by rincon on Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:24 pm

Mandzukic is finished
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Post by M99 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Why did the Dzeko move collapse? Thought it was a done dealio.
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Post by Firenze on Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:17 pm

Morata is just a bizarre move man

love to see it

10M on a season long loan even if u dont activate the clause (you wont) wtf? this guy should be going for like 15M max anyway. He's a turd.


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Post by rincon on Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:17 pm

Milik and ADL are fighting over money owed/not owed.
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Post by Warrior on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:12 am

9M for Morata uuuuuu what a big deal that is Rolling Eyes

Instead of over-paying for finished Suarez (general consensus on this forum it seems) or waiting another 2 weeks for ADL-Milik to unlock Dzeko's transfer for us. Since we sold Higuain we lack an attacker be it only to rotate in easy league games, so Morata is literally better than nothing. And remember his good moments at Juve

If Dzeko eventually arrives and we sell Douglas fair enough, anyway it's now the least of concerns. In fact it's a CM we need, after that we close the books.

Certainly our squad is not as good as it should. But we'll find ways to win and i predict Juve as champion again. Instead of falling in banter era i hope we revamp the squad fast, through smart business it can be done within next year same date
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Post by AlphaBeast on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:50 am

Morata is a big game player.

Also, Morata played great for Juve when he was there...

he single handedly knocked out RM in UCL 14/15. Morata is the reason we didn't win 5 UCLs in a row.

Morata crippled Liverpool last year.
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:43 am

@rincon wrote:Mandzukic is finished


lol we all know paratichi and sarri finished him
he still had lot to offer. his mistake ? going outside of europe
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:43 am

@AlphaBeast wrote:Morata is a big game player.

Also, Morata played great for Juve when he was there...

he single handedly knocked out RM in UCL 14/15. Morata is the reason we didn't win 5 UCLs in a row.

Morata crippled Liverpool last year.


as a super sub ye ... regular not quite
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:46 am

thinking about it, this whole milik dzeko fiasco isnt a bad thing for napoli and roma because otherwise would have strengthened Juve to some extent.

milik asking to resolve that 1 million payment probably infuriated de laurentis even more like he was probably being i would rather have you walk for nothing than pay you. Roma meanwhile gets to keep dzeko too because they have absolutely no one atm... dunno what happened to kalinic.
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Post by rincon on Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:58 am

@JespSwe wrote:
@rincon wrote:Mandzukic is finished


lol we all know paratichi and sarri finished him
he still had lot to offer. his mistake ? going outside of europe

Nothing to do with Paratici or Sarri. Mandzukic's last season was with Allegri and it was clear we needed to move on after it. With decreased stamina, movement, and physicality, you are left with a striker that scores 5 goals a season and can't provide all the extras.

I'm a huge fan but he is finished.
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:02 am

@rincon wrote:
@JespSwe wrote:
@rincon wrote:Mandzukic is finished


lol we all know paratichi and sarri finished him
he still had lot to offer. his mistake ? going outside of europe

Nothing to do with Paratici or Sarri. Mandzukic's last season was with Allegri and it was clear we needed to move on after it. With decreased stamina, movement, and physicality, you are left with a striker that scores 5 goals a season and can't provide all the extras.

I'm a huge fan but he is finished.


cmon that guy if you ask him to adapt ANY position he would do it . infact he didnt even complain bench role. If i remember correctly it was after Sarri arrival he was frozen out.

If his fitness was the reason that he was let go then i m surprised to hear that and hearing for the first time. Not long ago he was probably Juve's ultimate utility player. Again if i have to choose between a near finished morata and a finished mandzukic i would choose mandzukic.

though again the way he was frozen out from the squad cold - for what he did - i dont blame juve fans i think the club was a bit too harsh on him
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Post by Warrior on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:40 pm

Mandzukic could only be useful as box-to-box in place of Khedira. Been saying this for years. As a forward ? Out of question
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Post by JespSwe on Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pm

@Warrior wrote:Mandzukic could only be useful as box-to-box in place of Khedira. Been saying this for years. As a forward ? Out of question


yea but that was allegri who used him as a make shift b2b or whatever position he is played at. by default he is a CF no? i mean he flourished as CF anywhere he had played even juve its just that then atleast from outside view higuain was too big name for them ahead of mandzukic.

anyway sorry to talk bring up mandzukic - now its as good as official that morata is juve player .... good luck
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Post by Luca on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:20 pm

Pellegrini season long loan to Genoa is done

Looks like we keep De Sciglio, expected as much

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Post by Arquitecto on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:51 pm

Morata must be such an underwhelming signing for Juventus.

He is a total mental midget and no surprise given his affluent father worked his way up to get him to where he was for Real Madrid.

His only notable seasons remain his first one with Real Madrid and that one with Juventus where he was very impressive in Europe otherwise he has only one 20 goal season on his belt.

Juventus he loves out of all that has been obvious given his words even away from them and it helps his wife is Italian and the fans love him but the pressure will mount against him if he fails to be prolific let alone Cristiano who is as unforgiving as Zlatan if his strike partner is being a bidone.

From Suarez to Dzeko to Morata Laughing

Only factor he has going for him is his age but he is in prime years now and the first 5 games will signify everything for him.

Not a promising sign as it'll be another year of Cristiano being the only scorer in Europe.
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Post by rincon on Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:15 pm

In europe Morata will be useful as he was last time imo. The reason he was so good in CL and so bad in Serie A last time was clear: his pace and ability to exploit space. As we are always pushing up in Serie A he struggled. When we countered in CL as we faced more attacking teams he shone.

So I do have hopes to see those fan favorite Morata runs in CL again.

Problem is, as I have posted endlessly here, he was the softest, most mentally weak player in recent memory. Maybe Rugani is the only one who rivals him in this. Hoping age and Pirlo can bring out a man from the boy.

Its clear that there should be a lot of rotation in front as we only have 2 sure starters: Ronaldo and Dybala. The 3rd spot should constantly switch between Kulusevski, Ramsey, Morata, and Bernardeschi I guess. With Ronaldo and Dybala resting as needed.

The bad thing is that Pirlo specifically spoke about wanting a CF for his vision of football. A starter CF. Is this Morata? Probably not. So he will have to be more flexible.
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Post by Arquitecto on Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:41 pm

Ronaldo, the team being built around him is a huge factor.

Morata scoring a lot would not be surprising but problem is he is more a Morientes than a Dzeko who also creates for his teammates. Morata has none of that and if Juve went for someone like Benzema, who famously combined beautifully with Ronaldo it would have worked. Benz I am surprised was not gone for let alone Dzeko who was destined to combine well with Ronaldo.


A lot of the spaces Morata looks for to score CR takes up anyway.

Mentally he is astonishingly weak in the sense you can see it on his face when he misses. He is soft in the mentality ground and I just cannot see how it will benefit CR let alone Dybala either.

When he scores he scores but its usually at the cost of his attackers so the spaces he prefers to occupy in the box, are usually at the expense of others.

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Post by adun101 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:17 am

@Warrior wrote:
If Dzeko eventually arrives and we sell Douglas fair enough, anyway it's now the least of concerns. In fact it's a CM we need, after that we close the books.


We're kinda crowded at the central forward position and we're lacking on the wings. The rumored replacement for Costa is Chiesa. As for Dzeko, I don't see it unless we sell Dybala.
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Post by Warrior on Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:52 am

I don't particularly want this move to happen. But we'd still be covered on the wings in case of 4-3-3

RONALDO-DYBALA-KULU as first choice
MORATA-DZEKO-BERNA or DOUGLAS-MORATA-BERNA as second choice

In case of 3-5-2 all those guys can play either CF or SS or both

Morata is not the most spectacular move, but it is cheap and low-risk for now, and it makes another forward transfer pointless. Never been a big fan of Chiesa nor do i believe we can buy him right now
Midfielder next please (that much i won't be convinced after just one match)
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