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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:31 am

2-3 Bilbao.

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Post by Lord Spencer Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:02 am

WTF was that red card for Messi Laughing

And just 2 minutes of extra time Laughing

Bilbao playing like school children, assaulting Barca players to stop counters, falling like leaves at the slightest of touches, getting imaginary cramps, wasting so much time.

Seriously a shit show from the ref. Bilbao should have gotten two red cards for time wasting and cynical fouls, and instead Messi gets a red card Laughing
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Post by Perucho21 Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:03 am

Any club with that has Athletic or Atletico in their name are just gigantic pieces of shit, thats just a fact
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:07 am

Yea Loool La Liga refs are soooo shit. Messi obviously knew the player only has the intention to block him and rightly pushes him away and both VAR and the dumb ref thinks its a punch or a big slap? Fking joke these refs really are sometimes lol...

Bilbao being basically Atletico Madrid 2.0, score from set pieces, playing rugby and force Barca back really well. Our defense are so bad even Koeman putting in a third CB as RB instead of Dest?

Cant say Bilbao dont deserve it though, as much as I hate their style... they always make it hard to us when they play us,.and their cup records are amazing just like ours... grrr....

Messi and the team should just forget about this game... I hope he wont face suspension for the next game?
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:10 am

@Perucho21 wrote:Any club with that has Athletic or Atletico in their name are just gigantic pieces of shit, thats just a fact

Yes and also this was a daylight robbery. I thought i was watching WWE RAW or Smackdown tonight.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:35 am

@Lord Spencer wrote:WTF was that red card for Messi Laughing

And just 2 minutes of extra time Laughing

Bilbao playing like school children, assaulting Barca players to stop counters, falling like leaves at the slightest of touches, getting imaginary cramps, wasting so much time.

Seriously a shit show from the ref. Bilbao should have gotten two red cards for time wasting and cynical fouls, and instead Messi gets a red card Laughing
they've been playing this way for literally 50 years
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:53 am

@Lord Spencer wrote:WTF was that red card for Messi Laughing

And just 2 minutes of extra time Laughing

Bilbao playing like school children, assaulting Barca players to stop counters, falling like leaves at the slightest of touches, getting imaginary cramps, wasting so much time.

Seriously a shit show from the ref. Bilbao should have gotten two red cards for time wasting and cynical fouls, and instead Messi gets a red card Laughing

Now you know where all Harmonica spreadsheets are coming from

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Post by Arquitecto Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:02 pm

Nice to see Barça fans salty over a deserved win from Athletic. They were just better.

Stay mad. #BiziAmetsa. Txapeldunak.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:46 pm

Manzano is the top refdrid. But I don't care anymore, I just want Messi out of Spain, so I don't have to watch this fake football ever again.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:05 pm

Just watched the highlights of this

Jordi Alba rofl rofl

just completely unaware of the opponent's presence for the 1-1 (that look to the linesman lmaaooooo), then actively ducks the freekick cross for the 2-2 rofl

A performance as awful as his character
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:08 pm

and what are you guys smoking

are you fucking out of your mind? That's the clearest red card you could possibly imagine, what else would it be

Messi full on hitting the guy
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:45 pm

If I even cared anymore about this pathetic league or cup


I would make a compilation of every time Bilbao's players did this last night without receiving a yellow though it'd take me a week to complete:

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it was on display for everyone to see

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Post by Pedram Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:20 pm

@Myesyats wrote:If I even cared anymore about this pathetic league or cup


I would make a compilation of every time Bilbao's players did this last night without receiving a yellow though it'd take me a week to complete:

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it was on display for everyone to see


Barcelona has some of the greatest actors in football, no way Jordi Alba would no sell an RKO like Hulk Hogan.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:12 pm

By the way it is totally comical anyone laughing at Messi getting a card.

Get your head out of your asses and watch this.

He generally lashes out like this when mad this is nothing new.

https://twitter.com/FutbolFax/status/1350938386077523975


Easily a red card and should be banned for 3 games. Fuck off.
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Post by danyjr Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:10 pm

GL's pseudo-basque resident once again twisting the truth by showing a 2-second footage despite Villalibre and his team mates hacking down Messi all game.

Nothing new here :coffee:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:19 pm

@danyjr wrote:GL's pseudo-basque resident once again twisting the truth by showing a 2-second footage despite Villalibre and his team mates hacking down Messi all game.

Nothing new here :coffee:


Well, one of the amazing things about Messi, and one key reason why Neymar will never be able to come close, is how usually he is not distracted or provoked by being constantly fouled, and how he rarely loses his temper and focus no matter how much opposition player hack him down.

That's one part of what makes him so consistent and so deadly, while if you foul Neymar a few times (and of course both Neymar and Messi are fouled all the time, every game) he will get caught up in it, start acting, or acting out, and will forget to play football, waste his time with bickering, or get sent off himself.
You can worsen Neymar by fouling him, but usually, you can't neutralize Messi in that way.

But I guess in minute 120 of this game even Messis patience and focus was exhausted, who can blame him.
Still a clear red, and a ban will follow to the detriment of his team.
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Post by Thimmy Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:10 am

I’m actually really surprised that this has has been Messi’s first red card in the league. I’m sure I’ve seen him act on out on more than one occasion in the past, like that time he pushed a ref in the back, the same week as C. Ronaldo got sent off for doing the exact same thing, only with less power behind the push Laughing then there was that time when he seemed to act like a thug, and I remember Firenze referencing his «rent boy tattoos».

I wouldn’t call Messi a dirty player, but he seems to always get away with it, on the occasions when he does act like a thug. I’m sure Harmonica will strongly disagree here, but normally I’d assume or expect that he’d receive no punishment for this type of situation, although he blatantly punched the guy.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:30 am

Technically this was a supercup game so his league record remains untarnished
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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:48 am

Sorry, but if anyone thinks that Messi's attempt at pushing an obstructing player during a counter attack is a red, then his head is so far up his own ass, he might be Donald Trump in disguise.

If that's a red, then the manhandling of De Jong by the same player, just minutes earlier, was a MUCH clearer assault. He handled De Jong, grabibing at him, for a full 20 seconds, and only gets a yellow for that.

The Basque "Warriors" were hugging the ground more than 60s peacekeeping hippies. I was actually rooting for them, but they played the final 15 minutes like the biggest pansies in football.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:11 am

The discussion does not contextual what the Athletic players did nor anything else the discussion is on Messi and his right card and it is conveniently seemed to be ignored, that his right hand was lashed out in frustration on the counter-attack.

The footage speaks for itself. Athletic roughhousing Barça, who weren't saint themselves, does not negate from Messi's attempted brandish upon the opposition.


Isn't that hard.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:13 am

I agree Thimmy he isn't dirty but when he lashes out its quite embarrassing and he does indeed get away with it.

There was a clear right hook from him, denying that is just hilarious Laughing
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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:31 am

@Arquitecto wrote:I agree Thimmy he isn't dirty but when he lashes out its quite embarrassing and he does indeed get away with it.

There was a clear right hook from him, denying that is just hilarious Laughing


Right hook Laughing

The powerful Messi Ali Clay was clearly shoving Villalibre (who was clearly obstructing Messi's path without the ball, which could be considered a foul) aside to try and join the final attack of the game, and it came in more forceful than the hundreds of such shoves in any week because it was more desperate being at the end of the game.

And the context of the match 100% applies for any refereeing decision. The fact that Bilbao were wasting time, committing cynical fouls, and basically manhandling Barca players to stop counter attacks should have weighed in the decision to treat this is a foul (which is a yellow at most) or a violent interaction (which is a straight red).

Not only did the Ref not take in all of that context, but the 2 minutes of extra time that he gave was not nearly enough considering Bilbao time wasting tactics employed in extra time.

Sorry Arq, but your biases are as clear as the lack of bravery of Bilbao's players in the last 15 minutes (which is a shame, since they showed such courage for the rest of the match).
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:51 pm

Spence Im not the least bit of a fan of Toral's methods on Athletic. Bielsa to Valverde brought their initial attacking pedigree back only for managers to succeed forward and underutilise talent for an increasingly cynical Leones.

I dont disagree either that it was not the most classy display nor on the fact that Messi was provoked but his swing at the opposition was clear. He barely lashes out but when he does it does tend to be violent if not seething.

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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:52 pm

And disappointed people forgot to note that Athletic defeated both:

Real Madrid & Barça within the span of 2 games.

:bow:
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm

Frenkie still bleeding a week after the assault

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:28 pm

We had a penalty shout that wasn't even shown on TV were their player handled the ball in the box

Tebas rofl

Perez always speaks the truth. Where was Tebas after the game? Oh yeah he was hoping that the situation would pass quick

We were robbed not Barca
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