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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:26 pm

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sportsczy wrote:Passing the ball vertically is always faster than dribbling.  Dribblers tend to actually slow the pace of a team.

Not the way prime Messi used to dribble though Laughing dude could literally take half the team out of the play in 3 seconds


Plenty of players can dribble. It’s Messi’s passing and football IQ as well as goal scoring that makes him who he is.

@harmonica nope, not how it works, as sports said, dribbling slows down the game and overdoing it is a detriment to the team. Also increases the amount of turnovers a team has. Some players are great dribblers but don’t do it often because they don’t need to. It’s very, very rare that a pass can’t accomplish what a dribble can. And against packed defenses, long shots and crosses are just as if not more effective. Also harder to counter attack from versus a turnover from a dribble. We just remember the teams who parked the bus successfully, but for the most part, they lose when those two tactics are implemented

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Post by titosantill Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:46 pm

El Gunner wrote:are we talking about the Denilson that played for Arsenal circa 08-11 Laughing


No Denison who played for Brazil in France 98 and 02. And if my memory serves me correctly he was once the most expensive or second most expensive player in the world. I think it was between him and r9. Funny enough I thought Brazilian coaches figured out how to use him. Just bring him on as a sub to waste time. Unfortunatley for betis, they opted to build their club around him
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Post by M99 Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:09 pm

Brazil 02 had some unbelievable frauds that featured regularly for a World Cup winning team lmao.

Denilson, Kleberson, Roque Junior Laughing
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Post by titosantill Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:34 pm

M99 wrote:Brazil 02 had some unbelievable frauds that featured regularly for a World Cup winning team lmao.

Denilson, Kleberson, Roque Junior Laughing


and guys like djalminha juninho sonny anderson, elber couldnt even dream of getting in the squad. roque played with an injury in a champs league final which definitely shouldnt have been sanctioned. milan should be paying him just off that alone....scrub player though

dribbling is still vital, since we're on the benzema thread, that move against atleti for isco's goal, the game needs plays like that. moments of ingenuity. not just robotic plays all day. there's a fine line. i dont know about using dribbles and shots that hit the cross bar as some yardstick of measurement. im not in the business of "almosts"
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Post by guest_07 Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:04 pm

Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim.
Good day to Others.

Who is he referring to?


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Post by titosantill Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:31 pm

Doesn't have to be referring to anyone. But sports has always been that way. It's not everytime you have a great game and still score the winner or score a Hatrick. Sometimes u'll have a bad game cos the defense is better or tougher, if u can still pull a winner in said bad game, I give you your props.

Inzaghi is the perfect definition of that, so many offsides during the game, can't dribble to save his life, not a good passer. But he'll be there when half a chance arises, and that's why Milan fans love him
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Post by guest_07 Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:31 am

titosantill wrote:Doesn't have to be referring to anyone. But sports has always been that way. It's not everytime you have a great game and still score the winner or score a Hatrick. Sometimes u'll have a bad game cos the defense is better or tougher, if u can still pull a winner in said bad game, I give you your props.

Inzaghi is the perfect definition of that, so many offsides during the game, can't dribble to save his life, not a good passer. But he'll be there when half a chance arises, and that's why Milan fans love him


Thanks for the reply.
Appreciated. 🙂👍

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:51 pm

Injured right before the world cup. Must hurt given that he wasn't there in 2018
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:06 am

So demoralising. He must be absolutely shattered.

Him killing himself for us for so long has started to take its toll. Did the same to Ramos too. What he needs to do now is manage his career to avoid getting further injuries by nursing this one and starting to manage his minutes.

Benz first had muscle fatigue and it then developed into a tear. If he plays his cards right he could probably play in the Euros but he's going to have to drastically reduce the number of minutes he plays.

Benz has basically only played a handful of games this season. Unlucky man!
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Post by El Gunner Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:34 am

tough
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Post by titosantill Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:54 pm

This is tough. Burn out, at his age racking up all those minutes has taken its toll, its sad that he has to miss a world cup cos of this. and even sadder because last season he rushed himself back from injury to do damage for us and get us points. it seems a proper back up would have been just as beneficial or even more beneficial for him than for us. at this stage one just hopes he allows his body enough time to heal and not rush back.....for people accusing him of playing safe/not playing so he doesnt miss the world cup, there's your answer. the man's body was/is really exhausted
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:21 pm

A real shame, at the peak of his career at this age just winning the Ballon D'or, to miss out the biggest tournament at this point... doesnt get worst than that... some players just get no luck for NT, Reus is another...
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Post by sportsczy Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:01 pm

Interesting note:  Benzema has started individual training in Madrid.  Although not near a return to playing, there's a chance he could be ready tin 10-15 days.

France didn't remove him from the list.  He is still officially on the WC squad of France (France left him on just in case).

So he could come back in the semis if all goes perfectly.  Only a 10% probability...  but not zero either.  France would have to qualify and Benzema would need to resume normal training in roughly a week.

If France get that far in the WC, Benzema wouldn't start anyhow.  But a great bench joker to have... goes without saying.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm

https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/equipe-de-france/equipe-de-france-non-karim-benzema-n-est-pas-apte-a-rejouer-pour-le-moment_AV-202211280762.html
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Post by Doc Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:51 pm

If France wins the WC, would he still be eligible to receive a medal? (this applies to losing the final or 3rd place match).
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Post by sportsczy Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:56 pm

Yes Doc... as an official member of the team per FIFA (they never replaced him and registered him as a team member despite injury)... well, he's part of the team.

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:03 pm



Normal service resumed.

Crazy that he didn't win The Best award.
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Post by Vibe Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:10 pm

Kariminal back to back @ 35, get in there.

How many would he have if he wasn't Ronaldo's slave for 10 years?
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Post by sportsczy Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:13 pm

This year meaning in calendar year 2023... certainly not over the season.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:41 pm

He was also the best in 2022 minus the 7 or so games France stole from him.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:49 pm

Again calendar year. What matters are seasons. He was the best in 2021-2022 without a doubt. He has not been (so far) in 2022-2023.... but he can get there assuming some others slow down as well.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:02 pm

Leaving Madrid a season after winning the Ballon d'or for that Saudi bag...
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:09 pm

The correct decision. If he didn't take the first step we'd be renewing him every year until he turned 40 years old. He has achieved everything he set out to achieve on club level. He was a loyal servant who didn't make any noise and kept his head down unlike CR7. You'll be missed champ. Would've like a last season with our veterans given that both Modric and Kroos are renewing but in all honesty this is for the best.
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Post by Perucho21 Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:20 pm

Out of all of BBC and MSN no one believed he would win anything significant yet he won a BDO before Neymar Suarez and Bale.

To me hes the best 9 of his generation. But I know will tell me "wElL sUaReZ aNd lEwA" none of them completed an insane carry job to a league and CL titles and won a BDO (although Lewa should've)

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Post by sportsczy Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:59 pm

The correct decision.

Keep in mind that in his entire career, including Lyon, Benzema has earned €146 million GROSS.

The club in Saudi Arabia is offering him €200 million NET for two seasons.

It's an offer he literally cannot refuse.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:27 pm

Perucho21 wrote: Out of all of BBC and MSN no one believed he would win anything significant yet he won a BDO before Neymar Suarez and Bale.

To me hes the best 9 of his generation. But I know will tell me "wElL sUaReZ aNd lEwA" none of them completed an insane carry job to a league and CL titles and won a BDO (although Lewa should've)


Lewa is a tapin merchant but Suarez is debatable. I think Benzema has the edge though, he's done it all as a DM which is quite a feat.
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