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Post by Arquitecto Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:52 am

COPA is historical and all and always will be but comparing it to Euros is a joke. I remember watching the COPA this time and the level of football itself was just shocking. European football has zoomed way ahead of South American and saying otherwise is just memeing.

That being said Benzema would not be an exciting win for the Ballon d'Or but a deserved one.

Real one who deserves it is Robert Lewandowski, who has been just absurdly prolific but wont win it, sadly.

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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:07 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
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@Harmonica wrote:Nations League was created for making more money from friendlies, it's a friendly cup. And they tried to hide the fact, by giving one Euro place. Which is pointless in current Euro's anyway with 24 teams. And compared to lady football in Euro's, Copa is war of men, with corrupted referees allowing butchering, awful pitches and Brazilian officials.


Oh, come off it.

Compared to the Euros, the Copa is a farmer's competition. There is a reason a South American team did not win the WC for the past four WCs, and won't win it soon.

Outdated tactics, extreme play-acting, and a rot style of play. "War of men", more like a neanderthal sport.
Brazil is the most successful team in the World Cup. Last three World Cup's Uefa has had 40 teams, about half making to the knock-out stage. In stark comparison Conmebol entered with 15 teams, and only one failed to advance to ko-stage.

Copa and Euro are pretty equal on top 5 teams, but the style is different. Where as in Europe players are protected and game is more skillful, in Conmebol referees are protected and the game is much more physical.


The top teams in the Copa are equal or a step down to the top teams in Europe. Sure, the teams are more equal overall, but somehow believing it is a harder or more valuable victory than the "ladies" Euro game is ridiculous.

Sure, Brazil was the best team on the planet, and probably can still be the best team now, but the standards of coaching, training, and tactics have all massively changed since they last won it. At best, the SA teams can tank wins through sheer passion and skill, but they are almost always outclassed physically and tactically by the top European teams.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:17 pm

@Lord Spencer wrote:The top teams in the Copa are equal or a step down to the top teams in Europe. Sure, the teams are more equal overall, but somehow believing it is a harder or more valuable victory than the "ladies" Euro game is ridiculous.

Sure, Brazil was the best team on the planet, and probably can still be the best team now, but the standards of coaching, training, and tactics have all massively changed since they last won it. At best, the SA teams can tank wins through sheer passion and skill, but they are almost always outclassed physically and tactically by the top European teams.
I never said Copa is more valuable than Euro's. They are as valuable, highest honor for the teams aside World Cup. What I said is no different from "farmer's competition", they are just different styles of competition, because cultural differences and amount of nations. In Uefa games are more varied because of this, but in Conmebol everybody knows everybody and play much harder games on average.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:05 pm

Fair enough.
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