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Post by sportsczy Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:19 pm

I bet you he finishes second behind Messi. I'm calling it here. Since there are a lot of international voters... Messi will get his. Copa America is such a joke with how its organized; but it is what it is.

Benzema literally carries Real Madrid. He was also very good in the Euro and dominant in this tournament.

Calling it now. karim 2nd.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:23 pm

Can't tell if you're trolling or deluded. hmm Copa America was decided when Messi won with Argentina, with a legendary performance. There's really nothing even comparing to Messi's year. Trophy wise Jorginho, but lmao at the performance difference. Just leave it already.
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Post by Mamad Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:41 pm

Crying Messi fanboys incoming
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Post by Myesyats Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:45 pm

Lewandowski should win the next one since they robbed him due to covid

otherwise who cares
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:23 pm

Myesyats wrote:Lewandowski should win the next one since they robbed him due to covid

otherwise who cares


and since then he also broke Gerd Müller's 50 year old record

he absolutely should win
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:08 pm

Even though Benzema delivered a BdO-worthy season, I don't think he should win it. Nor should Messi.

Benzema was let down by Real Madrid when they failed to win the unbelievably easy league last season while he was also let down by France in the euros. With both RM and France, he rose up to the occasion and delivered stellar performances. But ending up trophyless for both of them will inevitably cast a shadow over his chances even though he's not really responsible for those defeats.

Had he won the euros with France, he would've had a really good chance of winning the BdO by a landslide. Heck, even if RM had won the joke of a league we had last season, he would've won the Bdo. But as things stand, he has the odds stacked against him, which is a shame because he really deserves it this year.

I think it will go to Lewa, and I think Benzema will finish second. Messi has no business winnning it or even finishing second.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:12 pm

Lewandowski? Laughing Won fck all last season, and even then Messi has even performed much better than him. Get a grip.

First ever to win Copa, MVP, score most and assist most, in 105 years.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:17 pm

sportsczy wrote:His nation league's performances against Belgium and Spain have made him the BDO frontrunner imo.

What a 2022 he's having. Just does everything.
Sports has come here to inform us about Benz' performance from the future

Also as if this mickey mouse cup meant anything to BdO voters Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:19 pm

Arguing with friendly cups now. Laughing
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Post by Mamad Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:32 pm

If it was Messi or Ronaldo winning it would have mattered trust me. but now it's just micky mouse cup lol.

France beat Belgium and Spain ( who beat the winner of euro ) to win it. i'd say it is harder to win compared to Copa America.

just because it's new you can't dismiss it.
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Post by Lord Spencer Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:48 pm

It's a glorified friendly. Even the players are not taking it seriously.

It is frankly stupid to compare it in any way to the Copa America. Seriously, this comment by itself should disqualify you from discussing football for a month.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:50 pm

I will just add an argument for Benzema vs Lewa.

Lewa is a brilliant striker, no doubt. I mean, his numbers alone are out of this world (the guy even broke Gerd Muller's record of 40 league goals). So if he wins it, it will be totally deserved.

But when it comes to Benzema, remember guys that he had no supporting cast last season. Everybody was underperforming. Everybody was crap. And he was the only glimmer of hope in an otherwise sucky, sucky Madrid side.

And despite all of that, he got us really close to dreaming of the league and even the CL.

So yes, Lewa was monstrous, but he was to a degree helped by a good side. Benzema, on the other hand, was a one-man army. A man who stood alone in the face of the storm surrounded by mediocrity, and yet he managed to deliver a Ballon-d'or-worthy season. That shouldn't be ignored.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:55 pm

Mamad wrote:If it was Messi or Ronaldo winning it would have mattered trust me. but now it's just micky mouse cup lol.
fair point

Mamad wrote:France beat Belgium and Spain ( who beat the winner of euro ) to win it. i'd say it is harder to win compared to Copa America.
dumb, pointless point

Mamad wrote:just because it's new you can't dismiss it.
agreed. It's not on the same level as an official regional tournament a la Euros, Copa, AFCON. But it's clearly being dressed and staged as a more prestigious tournament than your average friendly, so it should count for something.

I couldn't really be bothered by who wins the award at the end of the day... Benzema should be in consideration, and what Messi has done this year should be enough to have him in contention again as always (i mean he is still the best player in the world so he will probably will always be in contention unless he drastically falls off performance wise) and people who dismiss Messi's accolades for this year sound vindictive.
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:58 pm

I agree Benzema has been amazing form for so long now, n unlucky with his teams not winning anything until now, otherwise he would be right up there as favourites. Atm according to the odds, hes way off the top like just 7th favourite, Lewand is like 2nd or 3rd Razz

Not sure what NAtions League ranks in terms of weighting given as a NT trophy... I still getting used to the fact that its actually just replacing qualifying n another wannabe tournament trying to attract viewers for more money? Razz

Jorginho is also right up there as per the odds but he seems to have dropped off a bit lately performance wise. Dont know if the current form matters n also dont know when the votes are cast?
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Post by Mamad Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:01 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:It's a glorified friendly. Even the players are not taking it seriously.

It is frankly stupid to compare it in any way to the Copa America. Seriously, this comment by itself should disqualify you from discussing football for a month.

Trust me they took it 100% seriously. did you even watch the games?

Honestly coming here reading opinions from people like you gives me a headache. how dumb can you be about the sport you like.
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Post by Mamad Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:03 pm

Jorginho being up there among the candidates is just stupid. the guy is not top 3 player in his own team.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:21 pm

Harmonica wrote:Lewandowski? Laughing Won fck all last season, and even then Messi has even performed much better than him. Get a grip.

First ever to win Copa, MVP, score most and assist most, in 105 years.
The year of covid balon d'or was called off when Lewandowski was coming off a sextuple you delinquent. Only the 2nd sextuple in history after barca 2009

according to you Messhi should win every year. You're biased beyond bounds of reason
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:27 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Lewandowski? Laughing Won fck all last season, and even then Messi has even performed much better than him. Get a grip.

First ever to win Copa, MVP, score most and assist most, in 105 years.
The year of covid balon d'or was called off when Lewandowski was coming off a sextuple you delinquent. Only the 2nd sextuple in history after barca 2009

according to you Messhi should win every year. You're biased beyond bounds of reason
I agree he should've gotten it last year, although leveling wasn't quite fair for everybody.

But this is Ballon d'Or 2021 you dunce.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:44 pm

And messi should win for winning copa america only? lol

He won nothing with clubs and was awful
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:52 pm

Myesyats wrote:And messi should win for winning copa america only? lol

He won nothing with clubs and was awful
Yes, he's gonna win it based on the legendary Copa.

Messi won Copa with 2nd div Barca and was the highest rated player in both top 5 leagues, and champions league. Laughing
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Post by Myesyats Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:30 pm

Balon dor isnt based on whoscored ratings. Barca was awful with him that year regardless of his whoscored points. Copa changes nothing

And by awful I mean really dreadful
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:44 pm

Whoscored reflects performance, saying highest (with huge margin) rated player was dreadful is just absurd.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:00 pm

Messi is always the best in whoscored ratings. Wonder why he doesnt have 13 balon dors yet then.
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Post by Perucho21 Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:07 pm

Should be between Lewe and Benz. Messi shouldn't even be in the convo. Winning the COVID copa america when all teams except Brazil and Argentina were playing their B/C team doesn't change anything.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:10 pm

Myesyats wrote:Messi is always the best in whoscored ratings. Wonder why he doesnt have 13 balon dors yet then.
He should've if it was based on quantity of performance during the year.
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Post by Casciavit Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:22 pm

sportsczy wrote:I bet you he finishes second behind Messi.  I'm calling it here.  Since there are a lot of international voters...  Messi will get his.  Copa America is such a joke with how its organized; but it is what it is.

Benzema literally carries Real Madrid.  He was also very good in the Euro  and dominant in this tournament.

Calling it now.  karim 2nd.


I don't see it but we'll wait and find out.

The problem is with the people who don't think Messi should win is that they rally behind a different candidate every few months.

At the start of the year it was Lewa, then when Chelsea won the CL it was Kante, then when Italy won Euros it was Jorginho, now that France has won Nations League (lol) they are trying to rally behind Benz.

Messi is always going to win the award if the competition can't rally behind one direct competitor.
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