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Post by McLewis Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:37 pm

Yeah agreed. That would make sense. This new role with VS is about to take her even higher into the social conscious.

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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:40 pm



It would be incredible just how inconsistent and hypocritical UEFA are being if it wasn't so true to form.

A good example of "money talks and bullshit walks".
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Post by rincon Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:08 pm

@McLewis wrote:

It would be incredible just how inconsistent and hypocritical UEFA are being if it wasn't so true to form.

A good example of "money talks and bullshit walks".

This tweet is completely missing the context and the order in which the events happened.

Munich requested to display the rainbow flag because Hungary passed anti-LGBTQ laws and Hungary is coming to play in Munich. They didn't request to light up the stadium in the other matches.

So yes, obviously it is political. It's not about mainstreaming bigotry, it was an action made by Germany in response of a parliamentary decision made by Hungary.

Of course I support Germany in this and its about time everyone told Orban to fuck off, but given UEFA's rules this was an expected decision. The statement by UEFA even makes sense



Anyway Munich should still do it and take the fine if it comes.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:18 pm

Orban will not travel with the team to Munich as planned due to this Laughing Already a win for the Germans either way Very Happy

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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:03 pm

@rincon wrote:
@McLewis wrote:

It would be incredible just how inconsistent and hypocritical UEFA are being if it wasn't so true to form.

A good example of "money talks and bullshit walks".

This tweet is completely missing the context and the order in which the events happened.

Munich requested to display the rainbow flag because Hungary passed anti-LGBTQ laws and Hungary is coming to play in Munich. They didn't request to light up the stadium in the other matches.

So yes, obviously it is political. It's not about mainstreaming bigotry, it was an action made by Germany in response of a parliamentary decision made by Hungary.

Of course I support Germany in this and its about time everyone told Orban to fuck off, but given UEFA's rules this was an expected decision. The statement by UEFA even makes sense



Anyway Munich should still do it and take the fine if it comes.


It says more about UEFA and their priorities than Munich. I hope the whole city lights up in rainbow colors. I hope other cities join them as well.

Following a stupid rule, merely because it's a rule, is itself stupid. I'll die on that hill.
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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:06 pm



This is pretty much why women do not come forward when raped, especially by a man in a position of power.
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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:06 pm

A massive blow for the Me Too movement as this was considered one of its greatest triumphs.

It should be noted that the PA Supreme Court's decision DID NOT find Cosby innocent of raping these women. This decision indicates that his 5th amendment rights were violated because the prosecutors who had his case a few years ago ignored an agreement in place, made by a former prosecutor back in 2005, that promised he wouldn't be charged criminally if he testified at depositions. He agreed to that deal, testified at those depositions, incriminated himself, and that was used against him to put away back in 2018. The PA Supreme Court have reversed that ruling and ordered him release. The Court also ruled that the case cannot be retried against the specific woman who was subject to the 2004 case, where that sweetheart deal was made. It doesn't mean that the 59 other women's allegations are dismissed. If there's a strong case that is still within the Statute of Limitations, Cosby can be tried again.

Either way, this is a devastating day for the 60 women who came forward to accuse him of drugging and raping them. Prosecutorial incompetence and technicalities always seem to benefit the rich and powerful.

Oh....and that prosecutor who fucked all of this up? Same guy that defended Trump at his 2nd Impeachment trial.
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Post by Thimmy Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:21 pm

I'm a supporter of gay/trans rights, but I disagree with both of you. Politics in football should be kept to a bare minimum. Political messages can be conveyed and debated elsewhere. People don't play sports to get involved in ideological conflicts and political matters; a lot of people get into sports as a means of escaping from it. Zero tolerance for racism, homophobia, and other types of discrimination and harassment, obviously needs to be present, but I really don't think it should be intentionally elevated beyond that. There are other platforms for such things.
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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:27 pm

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I see this far differently from you.

Sports and politics are irrevocably intertwined, whether one wants to recognize it or not.
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Post by Thimmy Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:33 pm

I know you do, and that's something we'll just have to disagree on. Politics can potentially bring positive changes, but it can also definitely cause unnecessary conflict where it doesn't belong.

While some degree of politics is unavoidable, I genuinely think it should be kept to a minimum in sports, not encouraged. I, for one, don't want some American, political hysteria in European football. If the footballing superpowers start virtue signaling with left wing politics, then we're well on our way to getting there. Might as well bring back the super league idea, so that these things can be advertised to a wider audience.
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Post by M99 Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:13 pm

The Cosby thing is so depressing.
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Post by CBarca Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:52 pm

The decision, to me, feels correct based on the reasoning behind it. That is, of course, a legal question and it's separate from the ethical and practical nightmare that is letting someone like Cosby go home after what he's done.

Between this and SCOTUS, it's been a bad few days
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Post by McLewis Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:06 pm

Then we hear that the judge denied Britney release from her conservatorship.

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:56 pm

who dat^
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:02 am

@McLewis wrote:Oh....and that prosecutor who fucked all of this up? Same guy that defended Trump at his 2nd Impeachment trial.

Naturally, it had to be someone who would take money over justice. Mad
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Post by rincon Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:53 am

@McLewis wrote:
@rincon wrote:
@McLewis wrote:

It would be incredible just how inconsistent and hypocritical UEFA are being if it wasn't so true to form.

A good example of "money talks and bullshit walks".

This tweet is completely missing the context and the order in which the events happened.

Munich requested to display the rainbow flag because Hungary passed anti-LGBTQ laws and Hungary is coming to play in Munich. They didn't request to light up the stadium in the other matches.

So yes, obviously it is political. It's not about mainstreaming bigotry, it was an action made by Germany in response of a parliamentary decision made by Hungary.

Of course I support Germany in this and its about time everyone told Orban to fuck off, but given UEFA's rules this was an expected decision. The statement by UEFA even makes sense



Anyway Munich should still do it and take the fine if it comes.


It says more about UEFA and their priorities than Munich. I hope the whole city lights up in rainbow colors. I hope other cities join them as well.

Following a stupid rule, merely because it's a rule, is itself stupid. I'll die on that hill.

It's not a stupid rule though, football is not just for you and I who agree on a certain side of the political spectrum. If UEFA or FIFA start to allow political messages then what happens when the world cup is held in Russia, Qatar, China, etc.? Then we will disagree with their message.

It's easy to see how this path leads to a fracture in sport. Is it worth it? IMO it isn't. Let's have things like football, Olympics, etc as platforms where we can still enjoy sport with the rest of the world.

That's not to say that there isn't politics in sport of course, but the organisation arranging shouldn't be so heavy handed with it. Have the rule, enforce, and fine Munich. Munich gets to make the statement, Hungary gets pissed, Orban doesn't travel, UEFA maintains a necessary degree of neutrality to not alienate a large part of their fanbase.
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Post by Arquitecto Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:47 pm

10 or so years ago I would have been saying the same thing as Thimmy in terms of Football + Politics but the fact is they are irreversibly fused throughout the history of the world right from the first assembly of international olympics.

Yes Italian team for instance should not be expected or forced to take a knee given such gestures, really dont do anything.

But its not doing any harm either as I dont like politics in sports but its irremediable and will only grow towards an increasingly political sensitive and globalist population.
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Post by futbol Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:07 pm

In Germany a doctor was sentenced last year for putting information on her website that she performs abortions. In Germany that is considered as "advertising for abortion" which is forbidden by law. As a doctor you can't publicly inform about abortions. Let that sink in. But we lecture other nations about their laws.

On the other hand we are so woke that we prepare legislation which want to allow underage children to decide for themselves without parents' consent to take irreversible hormone drugs and gender reassignment surgeries. lol

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Post by Babun Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:42 pm

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-transgender-prison-inmates-gender-identity-housing/
https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/demand-for-immediate-action-to-protect-incarcerated-women-in-california

The fuck is wrong with the authorities? Anyone could "identify" as a female with a penis and then go to a cell with women in a female prison..
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:50 pm

@Babun wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-transgender-prison-inmates-gender-identity-housing/
https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/demand-for-immediate-action-to-protect-incarcerated-women-in-california

The fuck is wrong with the authorities? Anyone could "identify" as a female with a penis and then go to a cell with women in a female prison..


Has anything like this ever happened though?
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:38 pm

Not prison related but somthing similar happened last week or so


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Post by Babun Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:57 pm

@VivaStPauli wrote:
@Babun wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-transgender-prison-inmates-gender-identity-housing/
https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/demand-for-immediate-action-to-protect-incarcerated-women-in-california

The fuck is wrong with the authorities? Anyone could "identify" as a female with a penis and then go to a cell with women in a female prison..


Has anything like this ever happened though?

Why wait until something happens? Male prisoners or sexual offenders don't have to be already operated on or clearly transgender without the male genitals. It's enough for the male prisoner to identify himself as female gender. To deduct what's going to happen next is easy enough I think.

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Post by Warrior Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:57 pm

This guy show his penis to young girls... and inclusivity justifies it... hello ???
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Post by elitedam Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:09 am

@Myesyats wrote:Not prison related but somthing similar happened last week or so



Did it really happen though?

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/07/wi-spa-la-transphobic-protest.html
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Post by Warrior Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:35 am

Wait 2 people got stabbed for this :facepalm:

I can't even... my cynism-O-meter has officially exploded (again)
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