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Post by sportsczy on Sun May 31, 2020 5:06 pm

@Freeza wrote:Here's the stat about inequality in the USA since Reagan:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/219643/gini-coefficient-for-us-individuals-families-and-households/

That only makes sense in context of global inequality since it's a global economy.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/a-guide-to-statistics-on-historical-trends-in-income-inequality

And this is Trump's ammo btw...  stop the US's participation in the global economy, save US jobs despite them being non-competitive in the global context... and that will help income inequality

It cost $300-$500 a semester to go to community college in the US btw.

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Post by Freeza on Sun May 31, 2020 5:13 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@Freeza wrote:Here's the stat about inequality in the USA since Reagan:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/219643/gini-coefficient-for-us-individuals-families-and-households/

That only makes sense in context of global inequality since it's a global economy.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/a-guide-to-statistics-on-historical-trends-in-income-inequality

And this is Trump's ammo btw...  stop the US's participation in the global economy, save US jobs despite them being non-competitive in the global context... and that will help income inequality

It cost $300-$500 a semester to go to community college in the US btw.


That link only shows than inequality started to rise when Reagan was elected:
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You get paid $9.000 each year to go University in Denmark. Combined with that, the Uni is also free.

If we're able to that, you should be able to make public colleges free to attend and even give out scholarships to everyone who wants to go there.

There's no excuse for that inequality anymore.

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Post by sportsczy on Sun May 31, 2020 5:14 pm

I will add that supply-side economics served its purpose in a specific window of circumstance... and then it was counter-productive.  Bush Sr. moved us away from it some and then Clinton did the rest (loved Clinton as a president).

Globalism caused certain industries in the US to fail.  Mostly white blue collar areas too.  They haven't transitioned well.  They needed scapegoats...  that's the reason Trump's message worked and continue to.

Is the solution to curb participation in a global economy?  That's long term suicide to me.  But it's also hard to explain to people that their jobs are no longer necessary...

Honestly, you have the same problem in Europe. But in Europe, the government has subsidized people's lives despite losing ground in a global economy. That's made things less painful... but the governments are going or have gone bankrupt.


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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun May 31, 2020 5:15 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Reagan will eventually be known as the president who cast a death spell on democracy and handed over the reigns to the financial industry

One of the worst politicians of all time


No he's good because the GNP went up in total!

Doesn't matter that he's responsible for the deaths of 90.000 men during a horrible epidemic, because at least the wealthy got wealthier.

He was a racist scumbag who shifted politics so far right that he fucked up the entire western worlds for years to come.



Actually my post is all wrong

he will not be known for anything, except maybe for beating Hitler and coining the phrase "Build The Wall", because historical knowledge will no longer exist thanks to the triumph of capitalist idiocracy

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun May 31, 2020 5:16 pm

@sportsczy wrote:How has every generation gotten less prosperity? Show me facts because this is hilarious. The exact opposite happened. Laughing Laughing
Not every generation, just 1, but American prosperity peaked in the 90s . You can look at relative income between 1 generation and the next and also at relative income between countries.

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Post by Warrior on Sun May 31, 2020 5:19 pm

Young adults are having a tough time nowadays, it's harder to emancipate than it was before.

At 25 my father had his own house and a Datsun 280ZX, without any sort of diploma he built himself a credible résumé only through his connections. My dad, just like me, is more passive than ambitious.

At the same age i rent a shitty apartment with bs noisy neighbors and drive a shit car. I could consume more but i'd have no security (i like 3 months back up for all expanses). Currently i make 60k a year, i'm lucky, because i am truck driver, it requires nothing. But my salary cannot upgrade unless i do long distance and/or dangerous goods transportation. My friends who are still in university are drowned in debts and they eat ramen as supper. Barely exagerating here, and that's in Canada, not USA where life is unfair by default. So i assume Kaz is right and it is worse there.
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Post by sportsczy on Sun May 31, 2020 5:19 pm

To me, you copy the countries that are doing the best jobs:

- Germany
- China (yes, there are lessons to be learned in terms of certain things that they do)
- US (yes, we're very good at certain things too)

The US should specifically look at Germany and how it implements healthcare and a social democracy while maintaining a capitalist economy.

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Post by sportsczy on Sun May 31, 2020 5:20 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:How has every generation gotten less prosperity? Show me facts because this is hilarious. The exact opposite happened. Laughing Laughing
Not every generation, just 1, but American prosperity peaked in the 90s . You can look at relative income between 1 generation and the next and also at relative income between countries.

I think this is more an issue of adapting to globalism... and that's a western problem, not just the US imo.

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Post by Freeza on Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:38 am

From the looks of Twitter Lindsey Graham has been outed for hiring every male escort in DC and making them sign NDAs before meeting him.

He booked the escorts under the name “Lady G”.

Can’t say I’m really that surprised. Such a shame so many gay people have to hide their truths and work tirelessly to stop other people of the same orientation from having rights. Terrible human being in every way.

It would be naive to think there isn’t some blackmail going on of some kind here.

This news coming out the same day he’s tied in the polls for the 2020 election against the democratic candidate Jaime Harrison.

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Post by CBarca on Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:47 am

It's the least surprising news ever tbh

Worst kept secret in Washington

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Post by VivaStPauli on Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:59 am

The harder conservatives rail against equal rights for LGBTQ people, the more certain I am we'll eventually catch them in an airport bathroom, or a truck stop parking lot, or just, you know, anywhere.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:06 am

@VivaStPauli wrote:The harder conservatives rail against equal rights for LGBTQ people, the more certain I am we'll eventually catch them in an airport bathroom, or a truck stop parking lot, or just, you know, anywhere.


Hey wait! Maybe they just have a very "wide leg stance" when taking a shit?!

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Post by VivaStPauli on Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:13 am

Well it happens if you get stretched out that much...

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Post by Freeza on Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:46 am

@CBarca wrote:It's the least surprising news ever tbh

Worst kept secret in Washington


I assume the secret is the age of said men

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:28 am

Biden has a 12 point lead over Trump in Michigan:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/501550-biden-doubles-lead-over-trump-in-michigan-poll

and a lead in most purple states that Trump turned. He even has a chance at Texas Laughing

This is Trump's low point though, wonder if people will remember any of this in October.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:32 am

This is not even the lowest his approval has been. He was at 37% in 2017.

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Post by VivaStPauli on Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:29 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:This is Trump's low point though, wonder if people will remember any of this in October.


No they'll have forgotten everything by October. I really hope Trump fucks up again in September.

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Post by Babun on Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:02 am

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:46 am

I also don't get why the conflate the Floyd killing and the kneeling thing.

Because if they kneel 8 minutes 40what seconds, it seems to me more like they're honouring the policeman who did exactly that

why are these people so bad in terms of PR

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:11 am

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these lot should be canceled for appropriating culture aswell

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Post by Pedram on Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:24 am

 



Biden holds a 15 points lead over Trump in Michigan and a 14 points lead nationally, this is probably Trump's lowest point.
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Post by rincon on Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:36 am

@Myesyats wrote:
@Babun wrote:2020 US presidential election - Page 14 Azm87Ex_700bwp

these lot should be canceled for appropriating culture aswell

They were given the scarves by the congressional black caucus. Can't really call them out specifically for this one.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52978780
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Post by Freeza on Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:51 am

It's dumb to do it for everyone involved. It's like no politicians are able to read the fucking room. Like at all.

Might as well have put a ball and chain on them or something.

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Post by El Gunner on Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:02 pm

It's not some huge wrong for me lol it's more just a bit cringe more than anything else.

The whole thing about cultural appropriation. I actually find it ridiculous most of the time. I think enacting it and having outrage toward it are both silly trivial things

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Post by CBarca on Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:02 pm

Yeah we'll see what polling looks like closer to October but as of this moment, Trump would get blown out of the water

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Post by FennecFox7 on Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:27 pm

Let’s hope so. I really think the media finally succeeded in going after trump. The BLM (which I support the peaceful protests 100%) movement has made him look bad. His one saving grace was the economy which tanked early due to corona isn’t there anymore. People are tired of his shit. Only his vocal supporters support him now.
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