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Post by RealGunner Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:25 pm



Day 1 on PS5 lol

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Post by Harmonica Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:53 pm

Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?
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Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:05 am

Harmonica wrote:Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?

GTA 5 probably
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Post by danyjr Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:08 am

Minecraft.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:13 am

Myesyats wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?

GTA 5 probably
I've only 38h on Steam with it. I always get bored after like 10-20% of the game and decide to take a break, and then it's really hard to pick up again. Probably because it's so story driven. Still waiting RDR2 on sale, to see if it holds the grip better.
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Post by danyjr Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:16 am

Harmonica wrote:
Myesyats wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?

GTA 5 probably
I've only 38h on Steam with it. I always get bored after like 10-20% of the game and decide to take a break, and then it's really hard to pick up again. Probably because it's so story driven. Still waiting RDR2 on sale, to see if it holds the grip better.
Story wise yes. Gameplay wise no. Unless you appreciate hyper realism in a video game at the expense of action factor.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:25 am

danyjr wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Myesyats wrote:
GTA 5 probably
I've only 38h on Steam with it. I always get bored after like 10-20% of the game and decide to take a break, and then it's really hard to pick up again. Probably because it's so story driven. Still waiting RDR2 on sale, to see if it holds the grip better.
Story wise yes. Gameplay wise no. Unless you appreciate hyper realism in a video game at the expense of action factor.
Gameplay is the most important thing in a game, if it's arcade, or realistic doesn't really matter if it's fun and rewarding. What I'm afraid with RDR2 is my prejudice. Because western is my top movie genre, I've studied and seen most of them. And I'm afraid that I get really annoyed if they just lazily used all the great scenes from these movies.

Once upon a Time in the West is just this, collection of the previous great western movies. But it's such a masterpiece that I feel this can't never approach that. But I will wait it to be about 30€, and then I can see if it is as good as advertised.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:29 am

danyjr wrote:Minecraft.

good shout

also Stardew Valley but I don't know how many h exactly
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:59 am

Well i don't define enjoyment by hours played hmm
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Post by M99 Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:13 am

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Day 1 on PS5 lol


Seen the rumor. Says Bluepoint is remastering Bloodborne at 4K 60 FPS and making the Demon Souls Remake. Said that will close the show.

Other rumors say Horizon 2 reveal will close the show. Who know what to beleive.
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Post by Thimmy Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:31 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Well i don't define enjoyment by hours played hmm


I hope you don’t use that as a pick up line hmm
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:08 am

Played Empire Earth with some friends today. Didn't win, but man did it bring up some great memories Proud

One of the best strategy video games I played as a kid.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:03 am

M99 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:

Day 1 on PS5 lol


Seen the rumor. Says Bluepoint is remastering Bloodborne at 4K 60 FPS and making the Demon Souls Remake. Said that will close the show.

Other rumors say Horizon 2 reveal will close the show. Who know what to beleive.


I still believe the Demon Souls rumor is bullshit and people have ignored all the facts and evidence in favour of what they want to believe.

They said it will be much bigger in scope than Shadow of Colossus remake was, I'm not being funny but Demon Souls doesn't fit in the slightest.

Maybe Demon Souls is being remade i dunno but i don't believe for a second that it's Bluepoints game. There's zero evidence for it and lots of evidence against it.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:40 am

#98

Game: Gex: Enter the Gecko
Year: 1998.
Genre: 3D Platformer.
Publisher: Midway Games, Crystal Dynamics.
Developer: Crystal Dynamics.

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First things first, I am changing my rating system to a simpler 10 point system. Games that get above a 7 I fully recommend, and those that get below that are mostly a waste of time. That leaves the score of 7 to depend on your taste

Of all the videogae mascots born in the 90s, Gex has always been the one that most emobodied the spirit of the decade. With his saracastic humor and misuse of parody as a style, he was as obnoxious a 90s star as you can get.

Other than the character himself, the game he featured in were not unique, even it they were not actually bad. The first 2D platformer was a competent game that played well on the Saturn at a time where 3D platformers were ugly as sin.

Enter the Gecko was Gex's first foray into 3D platforming, and it works well. However, I am not sure "well" cuts it when there are so many better platformers than it.

"Looks like I am heading back to the Media Dimension. It's gonna be deja-ouch all over again"

Enter the Gecko (Gex 2) starts with a short CGI movie informing the player that Gex had to go back to the "Media Dimension" to defeat Rez, his old foe, all over again. Instead of crafting its own world and identity, Gex relies on parodying the TV focused popular culture of the day, and the Media Dimension servs as the hub area before he goes in each TV parody.

While there are multiple levels, they each are split between one of six themes: scary movies, cartoons, prehistoric movies, Kung-Fu movies, space, and something that resembles Tron. In theory, these locations should be a form of parody or humor, but I simply don't see enough wit in the design to illicit any such humor. What these location do provide is a varied, if not particularly impressive, visual motifs.

So its left to the wise-cracking gecko to carry the game's comedic chops, and the best you can say is that he tries very hard, and that the game is proud of that effort.

Touting over 700 unique catch-phrases as a selling point, the team apparently green-lit any phrase that they could, never stopping to ask if they should. While the comedic value of each utterance by Gex is debatable, the obnoxiousness of it is overbearing.

Still, that's actually the point and design of the character, and much of what he says is designed to illicit an eye-roll. Thankfully, the PS1 version has that 700 samples to choose from, so it rarely gets extremly repetetive.

Playing it on the N64 with its reduced audio capcaity (which allowed for only 100 voice sample) must have been extremly grating.

"Aaah, to see the world as Keith Richards does"

Jumping into a 3rd dimension in 1998 meant that Gex 2 already had a bunch of reference games to look at. Super Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot both preceeded it by nearly two years, and other 3D platformers were released as well. In an already crowded genre, there is little that Gex 2 to seperate it from the crowd.

Gex's main tools are his tail, tongue, and ability to climb walls. The tail is just another twirling attack that is somehow much less useful than Crash's twirl, and the tongue is very much under-utilized. Needing a seperate button to activate, you imagine it would be very useufl. However, you only use the gun to swallow health or power-up flies in a frankly redundant action. To be fair, the tongue itself automatically activates as a hanging mechanic to compensate for the game's wonky jumping.

Wall climbing is where the game's most unique mechanic, and it isn't utilized enough to be ground-breaking, nor is it abused to the point of distraction.

One thing the game does well ,but not well-enough to avoid all issues, is with its camera system. With three camera control options, the game seemingly avoids all the issues related to 3D platforming auto-cameras. However, the game still wrests control from you even in manual camera mode, and the game is at its worst when you wrestle with the cameral for control.

Damn it, just let me control the camera myself in manual mode.

""I will beat this level, but in an hour, I will be hungry for another

The goal in each level is to get to the Red Remote at the end of each area. Most levels have more than one remote, each bieng in a different part of the level, while some ask you to find four or five collectibles before the Red Remote shows itself.

As the game progresses, the levels become harder and ore interesting. Ironically, once the game itself becomes more interesting, you starte getting bord of the reused assets and one-liners (even if the level itself changes).

Also, each level has one-hidden remote, and another that you get by collecting 120 "coins" in the level. These hidden remotes unlock some bonus stages, but that went beyond my engagment with the game.

Initially, I thought that all levels will require revisiting the same areas to get all Red Remotes. However, most levels actually have entierly seperate areas dedicated to each one.

To progress and reveal more levels, you need to both find enough Red Remotes to unlock later areas as well as fight some really basic bosses. Except, that is, one excellent boss which you fight like in a monster movie.

"It's all in the tongue baby!"

By the time they made Gex 2 Crystal Dynamic were already highly competent with 3D graphics through their experience with the Tomb Raider series, and it shows here. Gex himself looks great and animate really well, and the world's graphics are very good from a technical point of view.

Overall, of the six themes, four work really well while two have some issues. The Cartoon theme is ugly for most of the level, and the space theme is barren beyond reason (except in its great background art).

It's in its sound department where the game truly falters. Beyond the obnoxiousness of Gex's one-liners, the voice acting is good. However, when you combine it with repetetive and annoying sound effects, the result is something else. The beeping sound that rejects your assertion of camera control is the icing in the terrible cake.

Unfortunately, the soundtrack does nothing to take command of the situation, and instead is a mishmash of unattractive tunes and noises that is outside the norm in 3D platformers. This is surpsigins when you consider the soundtrack for the first Gex game was actually decent.

In Conclusion:

There s little, othere than the terrible sound effects and weak soundtrack, that is seriously wrong about Gex 2. It looks good, and plays well most of the time, and has a bunch of varied levels with the rare instances of an interesting mechanics.

However, its lack of major faults also betrays its lack of major merits, its "witty" and "sarcastic" one-liners notwithstanding.

Final: 5/10

Pros:

  • A competent 3D Platformer


Cons:

  • Doesn't have much to separate it from all the other competent 3D Platformers.
  • Really bad sound.


"Tips"
1-Collect enough (120) tokens in each level to find a bonus Remote.
2-Use the manual camera control mode.
3- Each time you go into a level, you can only get one Red Remote.

"Next Game"

I know that I played one Gex game as a kid, but I wasn't sure which, but now I know that it isn't Enter the Gecko, which would have been something I would have enjoyed then, but not so much now.

Next game i nmy review list is Gex 3: Undercover Gecko, which is the game that I probably played (but not completed) as a kid. I will play the game, and if I see any improvments on Gex 2, I will continue playing and review it as a supplement to the list. Otherwise, I am movign on to Vanark, which is at #97 in the Retro Sanctuary list.

Stay Tuned
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:52 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
M99 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:

Day 1 on PS5 lol


Seen the rumor. Says Bluepoint is remastering Bloodborne at 4K 60 FPS and making the Demon Souls Remake. Said that will close the show.

Other rumors say Horizon 2 reveal will close the show. Who know what to beleive.


I still believe the Demon Souls rumor is bullshit and people have ignored all the facts and evidence in favour of what they want to believe.

They said it will be much bigger in scope than Shadow of Colossus remake was, I'm not being funny but Demon Souls doesn't fit in the slightest.

Maybe Demon Souls is being remade i dunno but i don't believe for a second that it's Bluepoints game. There's zero evidence for it and lots of evidence against it.


I don't think Demon souls remake will be as big of a story.

Last i heard bluepoints game were remaking MGS which will be a huge huge story.

Horizon 2 will probably close the show though since it's the biggest reveal they have along with maybe the new GOW.
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Post by Firenze Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:05 pm

Demon's Souls rumour has been going around for like 18 months now, no other games have even been mentioned, never even heard of the MGS rumour until now?

I'm not hyped for Demons if true, not a fan of remaking games that are like 10 years old
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Post by rincon Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:16 pm

I dont see too much of a point in remaking demons souls. The game is still great and hasnt aged badly.
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Post by M99 Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:27 pm

Agreed, remaking a PS3 era game is weird. But I am confident it is happening, Bluepoint or not, Schreier pretty much said so.

I do think its likely games like Resident Evil 8 and Batman will be shown this summer.
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:26 pm

Harmonica wrote:Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?
1600 hrs on Overwatch since launch. Wouldn’t be much on PS4 if it wasn’t for OW.

Hoping for some great MP games next gen.
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:30 pm

M99 wrote:Agreed, remaking a PS3 era game is weird. But I am confident it is happening, Bluepoint or not, Schreier pretty much said so.

I do think its likely games like Resident Evil 8 and Batman will be shown this summer.
I Don’t see the point tbh. I imagine that it has aged badly.

But i’ll probably get it again since i’m back to SP & FromSoft games.
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Post by danyjr Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:39 pm

LeVersacci wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?
1600 hrs on Overwatch since launch. Wouldn’t be much on PS4 if it wasn’t for OW.

Hoping for some great MP games next gen.
Overwatch 2 Wink
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:42 pm

danyjr wrote:
LeVersacci wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Just passed 250h on Bannerlord, what was the last game you had that much fun?
1600 hrs on Overwatch since launch. Wouldn’t be much on PS4 if it wasn’t for OW.

Hoping for some great MP games next gen.
Overwatch 2 Wink
SP, few maps, heroes & UI changes basically.

Comp has been dead for years. No news about changes to it sadly.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:47 pm

What makes you like it so much?
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:02 pm

It’s different from the same generic fps over and over like cod & BF, comp mode, constant release of heroes & maps makes the game fresh.

Could go on.
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Post by Thimmy Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:25 pm

I haven’t played any other online multiplayer games than FIFA in recent years. I’ve come to realize that at almost 32 and with less time for games in general, I can’t keep up with the young’uns anymore. The increased time it takes to memorize maps and build up muscle memory just makes the experience frustrating.

I do miss MW2 and MW3, though. The last online shooter that gave me a MW- like rush was actually Rainbow Six:Siege. Ubisoft’s trademark shallowness is present in the game to some extent, but the concept is fantastic. I wish we could have made a GL team for it before they added a ton of redundant character types and tactical gadgets. Can’t be bothered to learn and memorize a bunch of stuff like that anymore.
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:32 pm

Me, Mole & Tom played Siege on and off the last few years. My second fav MP this gen.

It’s just ass in comp if you’re less than 4.

If clubs wasn’t so shit we could have a team again.
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