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Post by Nishankly Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:01 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Robes, I just read that the number of confirmed deaths of patients who tested positive for coronavirus in Italy has risen to 107 from 79.

That's a lot. Were they all old?


its true, 107 deaths (In 3000) for Italy compared to 35 for 5000 cases for South Korea.

I have to travel to Paris next week for a conference Sad. France at 290 now with 70 new cases today.

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Post by Robespierre Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:29 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Robes, I just read that the number of confirmed deaths of patients who tested positive for coronavirus in Italy has risen to 107 from 79.

That's a lot. Were they all old?

It is not known.
Suddenly .. there' s been increment of deaths ,it's doubled.
it's quite disturbing, honestly.
I don't know if situation is even worse than they want to say us, and I mean, Italy government is taking very seriously matter.
Schools and university will be close for 2 weeks  and it's been said you must not hug, no shake hands ,   keepin a safe distance away around 2 metres, reducing sociality.
It seems a dystopian scenario  . But it's reality.

Time spent
really   since first case : 1 week
Time   perception spent : 1 MONTH.

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Post by Nishankly Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:47 pm

Robespierre wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:Robes, I just read that the number of confirmed deaths of patients who tested positive for coronavirus in Italy has risen to 107 from 79.

That's a lot. Were they all old?

It is not known.
Suddenly .. there' s been increment of deaths ,it's doubled.
it's quite disturbing, honestly.
I don't know if situation is even worse than they want to say us, and I mean, Italy government is taking very seriously matter.
Schools and university will be close for 2 weeks  and it's been said you must not hug, no shake hands ,   keepin a safe distance away around 2 metres, reducing sociality.
It seems a dystopian scenario  . But it's reality.

Time spent
really   since first case : 1 week
Time   perception spent : 1 MONTH.

.


I kinda disagree here. After first contact:

Time to develop symptoms: 1-2 weeks
Recovery: 1-4 weeks
Asymptomatic: 1-2 weeks. (Japan already confirmed a re-outbreak of a cure patient)

(Start point of all 3 stages are inclusive, the last point is the furthest case)

This means this virus has a larger bracket of nearly 8 weeks which is fucking horrible, it should be contained and I don't give a fuck if people call it just a flu. A flu isn't supposed to keep you in isolation for 20 days.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:51 pm

Here's something that may explain the sudden rise in deaths in Italy: about 23 percent of their population is 65 or older. The median age is 47.3.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:28 pm

So apparently pets can get it too?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-says-pets-of-coronavirus-patients-need-to-be-quarantined-11582888486
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Post by Unique Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:37 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:So apparently pets can get it too?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-says-pets-of-coronavirus-patients-need-to-be-quarantined-11582888486
you say that like you are shocked and the virus was spread from bats to people in the first place
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Post by Robespierre Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:20 am

Nishankly wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:Robes, I just read that the number of confirmed deaths of patients who tested positive for coronavirus in Italy has risen to 107 from 79.

That's a lot. Were they all old?

It is not known.
Suddenly .. there' s been increment of deaths ,it's doubled.
it's quite disturbing, honestly.
I don't know if situation is even worse than they want to say us, and I mean, Italy government is taking very seriously matter.
Schools and university will be close for 2 weeks  and it's been said you must not hug, no shake hands ,   keepin a safe distance away around 2 metres, reducing sociality.
It seems a dystopian scenario  . But it's reality.

Time spent
really   since first case : 1 week
Time   perception spent : 1 MONTH.

.


I kinda disagree here. After first contact:

Time to develop symptoms: 1-2 weeks
Recovery: 1-4 weeks
Asymptomatic: 1-2 weeks. (Japan already confirmed a re-outbreak of a cure patient)

(Start point of all 3 stages are inclusive, the last point is the furthest case)

This means this virus has a larger bracket of nearly 8 weeks which is fucking horrible, it should be contained and I don't give a fuck if people call it just a flu. A flu isn't supposed to keep you in isolation for 20 days.


Mmmm maybe a misunderstanding.
What I meant it 's passed just 1 week since Coronavirus has been found out in Italy but it seems as if it's passed 1 month. Our time perception is heavier. Damn heavy.
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Post by Nishankly Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:53 am

The first case outside the Italian tourists (who were positive on 31st Jan) was on 21st February in Lombardy and that was a cluster of cases in different cities. It has been 14 days since that date passed and we know (arguably) that they came to be tested after they were symptomatic which means the virus already spread unless that cluster came from one town which it didn't.
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Post by zigra Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:29 am

Unique wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:So apparently pets can get it too?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-says-pets-of-coronavirus-patients-need-to-be-quarantined-11582888486
you say that like you are shocked and the virus was spread from bats to people in the first place

That has never been confirmed. Just because people do eat bat soup in that area doesn't mean it's the cause of the virus.

Nishankly wrote:
I have to travel to Paris next week for a conference Sad. France at 290 now with 70 new cases today.

I have a flight to Seoul next week Laughing  oh well..
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Post by Robespierre Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:19 am

Nishankly wrote:The first case outside the Italian tourists (who were positive on 31st Jan) was on 21st February in Lombardy and that was a cluster of cases in different cities. It has been 14 days since that date passed and we know (arguably) that they came to be tested after they were symptomatic which means the virus already spread unless that cluster came from one town which it didn't.


Ah ok It's slip of tongue but it doesn't change the substance of the speech tbh
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Post by rincon Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:47 am

zigra wrote:
Unique wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:So apparently pets can get it too?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-says-pets-of-coronavirus-patients-need-to-be-quarantined-11582888486
you say that like you are shocked and the virus was spread from bats to people in the first place

That has never been confirmed. Just because people do eat bat soup in that area doesn't mean it's the cause of the virus.

Nishankly wrote:
I have to travel to Paris next week for a conference Sad. France at 290 now with 70 new cases today.

I have a flight to Seoul next week Laughing  oh well..

I think we are all young enough to not be at much risk, unless you have complicating health conditions.

The problem is we can infect other people
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Post by Babun Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:03 am

First hand experience of an English teacher in Wuhan with the coronavirus:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8075633/First-British-victim-25-describes-coronavirus.html
BarrileteCosmico wrote:So apparently pets can get it too?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-says-pets-of-coronavirus-patients-need-to-be-quarantined-11582888486

His cat died.
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Post by Adit Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:28 am

Italy the hotspot in Europe. Major tourist countries are all doomed imo.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:48 pm

The crazy thing is that 75% of these exotic type foods, herbs, etc. in China are sold under the guise that they will increase virility... no joke.
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Post by RealGunner Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:57 pm

First death in the UK confirmed

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Post by Robespierre Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:07 pm

When I read first death in UK and I think it's 148 in Italy...
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Post by Robespierre Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:18 pm

Situation worsens in Italy.

Positivity on new swabs   is around 30%.
The highest  rate registered in Italy.

Bad news also about the number of deaths ( + +38%) and the cases of hospitalisation are raising ( normal or intensive care)

in fact 85 % among new "positive " to coronavirus need for hospitalisation , whereas before it was around 50 %


https://twitter.com/matheusagaso/status/1235622500697948160
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Post by Art Morte Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:28 pm

sportsczy wrote:The crazy thing is that 75% of these exotic type foods, herbs, etc. in China are sold under the guise that they will increase virility... no joke.


Are you telling me that Hans is Patient 0? Fuck me.
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Post by Babun Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:21 pm

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/05/c_138846529.htm

Now, it is official and not a probability anymore. Among other things, Covid-19 causes encephalitis ( inflammation of the brain/ central nervous system).
sportsczy wrote:The crazy thing is that 75% of these exotic type foods, herbs, etc. in China are sold under the guise that they will increase virility...  no joke.

Stay safe wherever you are!
Robespierre wrote:Situation worsens in Italy.

Positivity on new swabs   is around 30%.
The highest  rate registered in Italy.

Bad news also about the number of deaths ( + +38%) and the cases of hospitalisation are raising ( normal or intensive care)

in fact  85 % among new "positive " to coronavirus need for hospitalisation , whereas before it was around 50 %

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Male anche il dato dei deceduti (+38%) ed in generale aumentano i ricoveri (T.I. o normali): se non consideriamo deceduti e guariti, l'85% dei nuovi positivi è infatti ricoverato, mentre nella prima settimana dell'epidemia questo dato era intorno al 50% /2 <a href="https://t.co/z4fyNRIpKk">pic.twitter.com/z4fyNRIpKk</a></p>— Matteo Cavallaro (@matheusagaso) <a href="https://twitter.com/matheusagaso/status/1235622502799486976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://twitter.com/matheusagaso/status/1235622500697948160

I personaly know an elderly woman from city of Brescia. A 61y old man she knows had flu like symptoms, everything was alright until all of a sudden he couldn't properly breathe without respiratory help. He is in critical condition now. The hospital is full so at least in Brescia they are going to use hotels to quarantaine and observe the mild cases.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:28 pm

Babun wrote:http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/05/c_138846529.htm

Now, it is official and not a probability anymore. Among other things, Covid-19 causes encephalitis ( inflammation of the brain/ central nervous system).
sportsczy wrote:The crazy thing is that 75% of these exotic type foods, herbs, etc. in China are sold under the guise that they will increase virility...  no joke.

Stay safe wherever you are!
Robespierre wrote:Situation worsens in Italy.

Positivity on new swabs   is around 30%.
The highest  rate registered in Italy.

Bad news also about the number of deaths ( + +38%) and the cases of hospitalisation are raising ( normal or intensive care)

in fact  85 % among new "positive " to coronavirus need for hospitalisation , whereas before it was around 50 %


https://twitter.com/matheusagaso/status/1235622500697948160

I personaly know an elderly woman from city of Brescia. A 61y old man she knows had flu like symptoms, everything was alright until all of a sudden he couldn't properly breathe without respiratory help. He is in critical condition now. The hospital is full so at least in Brescia they are going to use hotels to quarantaine and observe the mild cases.


Situation is difficult in Italy, more than other European countries, but at least the Lombardia Sanitary system Is at the forefront (second only to Tuscany ). That permits to avoid collapse atm ...

Seriously I don't dare to image if same sort of epidemic happens in Southern regions

There are case in all 20 Italian regions, let's be clear, but biggest outbreak Is surely Lombardia ( the Inter, Milan , Atalanta region for who doesn't know It)
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Post by Pedram Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:50 pm

In the city where i live things have gotten so out of hand that they're now proposing to quarantine the whole city.

Too late now, should've done this two weeks ago.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/irans-caspian-sea-retreat-turns-coronavirus-hub/
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Post by CBarca Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:28 pm

Babun wrote:http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/05/c_138846529.htm

Now, it is official and not a probability anymore. Among other things, Covid-19 causes encephalitis ( inflammation of the brain/ central nervous system).
sportsczy wrote:The crazy thing is that 75% of these exotic type foods, herbs, etc. in China are sold under the guise that they will increase virility...  no joke.

Stay safe wherever you are!
Robespierre wrote:Situation worsens in Italy.

Positivity on new swabs   is around 30%.
The highest  rate registered in Italy.

Bad news also about the number of deaths ( + +38%) and the cases of hospitalisation are raising ( normal or intensive care)

in fact  85 % among new "positive " to coronavirus need for hospitalisation , whereas before it was around 50 %


https://twitter.com/matheusagaso/status/1235622500697948160

I personaly know an elderly woman from city of Brescia. A 61y old man she knows had flu like symptoms, everything was alright until all of a sudden he couldn't properly breathe without respiratory help. He is in critical condition now. The hospital is full so at least in Brescia they are going to use hotels to quarantaine and observe the mild cases.


Is encephalitis possible with our regular strains of Influenza as well or not?
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Post by Nishankly Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:19 am



If this true then its mad.
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