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Post by Jay29 Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:36 pm

Pretty much. Seems to be a thing with Kane.

They have a promising kid called Troy Parrott but I expect Mourinho will have to be down every possible option before giving him a go.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:45 pm

Goal Giroud.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:47 pm

It looked pretty even at first with both sides creating one decent chance, but then Chelsea took the upper hand and deservedly scored.

Spurs aren't actually playing that bad, but their attack is certainly underwhelming, which is understandable given the absence of Kane.
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Post by Jay29 Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:48 pm

Giroud Proud

Spurs are playing a 5-4-1 with a young centre back at RWB and no proper striker. They were set-up to nick the game 1-0. Now they have to actually play the game in Chelsea's half.

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Post by Lily White Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:19 pm

Blimey! playin' leven behind da ball, deep in aaahr own 'alf, only one pass, which is da long ball straight up da middle ter da uvver keeper, Spurs football is as dead as a jellied eel fatality. losin' ter players like Ron Barkley. disgusting init. Nuff said, yeah.

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Post by Lily White Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:45 pm

Awright geeezzaa! let me repeat we is losin' ter a team wiv Roy Barkley in it. Sorted mate. Weev paid 15 milion quid fer a Portagoose ballboy blimey, nows we is breakin legs, Spurs football RIP

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Post by Lily White Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:47 pm

No red given? Blimey. Bloody brilliant dis VAR innit

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Post by Firenze Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:13 pm

did I really predict 3-3 ffs

I have doubts if Spurs can score 3 goals the rest of the season

ole out
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:22 pm

Llmao did Mou just refuse to shake Lampard's hand
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Post by RealGunner Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:28 pm

Lo Celso is so shit lmao
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Post by Doc Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:33 pm

Firenze wrote:did I really predict 3-3 ffs

I have doubts if Spurs can score 3 goals the rest of the season

ole out

The random Ole Out is priceless.
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Post by El Gunner Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:35 pm

RealGunner wrote:Lo Celso is so shit lmao
Running out there second to everything today lool
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Post by Arquitecto Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:37 pm

Always the most average players who cover every blade of grass because they are so shit.

LOL Celso deserves it given how entitled he is.
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Post by Thimmy Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:43 pm

Doc wrote:
Firenze wrote:did I really predict 3-3 ffs

I have doubts if Spurs can score 3 goals the rest of the season

ole out

The random Ole Out is priceless.


I thought it was a mildly funny, at first. Now, it’s more like watching a little brother pulling the same joke or gimmick for the 100th time, still expecting people to laugh from it.
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Post by CBarca Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:55 pm

Lo Celso has been one of Tottenham's best players since he's joined though if you watch the games (of which I only watch maybe half admittedly, perhaps he's shit in the other half)
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Post by Kaladin Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:03 pm

So when does Levy say enough is enough?
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Post by Kick Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:54 am

Alright lads, just here to update the rules, so we're all on the same page.

Kicking players in the family jewels is 100% legal, no ramifications.

Stamping players legs if 100% legal.

Kicking players waist is 100% legal.

High boot, is a big no no and will result in a yellow card.

Seriously, what is the point in VAR if they don't have the guts to make the correct call? Their official ruling on Lo Celso stamp is that he had no where else to put his foot. I didn't realise Azpi's calf was the size of the pitch.
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Post by silver Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:19 am

Should have started Giroud months ago. What a finish.
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Post by Kick Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:36 am

'It wasn't a clear and obvious error because VAR didn't feel there was anywhere else for him to put his foot' - the VAR ref.

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Post by RealGunner Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:33 am

One of the worst decisions i have seen
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Post by Doc Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:06 pm

Are we certain it is qualified refs running VAR? I know they say it's refs but has anyone go inside the room and personally checked and confirmed?
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Post by Jay29 Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:22 pm

What's worse is that even though the VAR team on the day admitted it should have been a red, they can't retrospectively punish Lo Celso because the ref saw the incident. So everyone was wrong, but Lo Celso is going to play the next game anyway. Laughing

Shamelessly copied this from Reddit, but it's compelling stuff:

So there's a semi-serious conspiracy theory gathering that the PL refs are actively trying to make VAR look bad and ineffective. Which I don't fully buy, but I think there is some basis of truth behind the reason for the theory, which is about sticking up for your fellow professionals. These guys (the actual match officials and the VARs) all know each other and are part of a much-maligned group, it's human nature that they are going to try and stick up for each other and would be reluctant to overturn a call that their work colleague has made. So, by not going to the pitchside monitor, the on-field ref almost has a get-out-of-jail card with regards to a tough decision, they can hold up their hands and say "hey, it's not me making the decision, it's them", but the problem is that the "them" in question is like some ghostly figure in a dark room miles away from the action, we'll hear their name at the start of the game, but other than that they have little to no accountability or culpability. If the on-pitch ref went over to the sideline and made a controversial call we would all be talking about how bad the refereeing decision was, and the performance that specific referee. When it goes to VAR and the darkened rooms of Stockley Park and a controversial call is made, all of the focus is still on the system for some reason, not that referee. Everyone talks about VAR this and VAR that, while rarely naming and shaming the actual referee. So, essentially, leaving everything to VAR relieves the actual refs of any blame. Mike Riley would obviously be aware of this, so he's choosing to make life easier for his buddies instead of just getting the best working system - and that's probably why he's got the job that he has. Lot's of people are shouting about how he should be sacked, but he's not going to be because he's making the job a lot easier for the refs and they in-turn will support him as PGMOL GM. For example, you'll only see ex-PL refs like Mark Clattenburg and Howard Webb have been openly critical of Mike Riley, the current bunch are happy with his decisions because it is focused on protecting referees.

For example, think of a wrong call that was made by an on-pitch ref this season. The first one that came to mind for me was Son's tackle on Andre Gomes which led to a straight red card for Son. I can remember that it was Martin Atkinson who made that call, but I can't remember who the VAR was that today and I think that would be pretty typical of most PL fans. So, if you can accept that it wasn't a red (which it wasn't, as an independent panel later confirmed), then the ref made a wrong call, and the VAR made a wrong call too; but, because of the lack of visibility of the VAR, we only remember the referee's mistake. So, the next time Martin Atkinson is a VAR he will have no problem just sticking up for his mate out there on the pitch who may have made a wrong call, confident in the fact that any backlash against a decision that he is accountable for will just fall under VAR controversy, and his name will barely get a mention. It's like a layer of protection that allows these guys to deflect bad refereeing off onto this magical buzzword that is VAR.

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Post by Firenze Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:57 pm

BRUNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

55M for the best midfielder in the world

what a coup
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Post by Firenze Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:11 pm

DENEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY

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Post by Firenze Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:14 pm

VAR is literally a Manchester United player this season

you love to see it
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Post by Unique Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:14 pm

Manure with £750 mil spent. Most pens in the premier League most decisions from VAR and still struggling to make 5th. Best League in the world Cool
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