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Post by FennecFox7 on Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:08 am

Can’t decide if Barcelona or arsenals board is worse rn

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Post by S on Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:44 am



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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:50 am

They're doing the deals separately?
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Post by rincon on Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:00 am

It's an accounting thing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:45 am

Yeah i figured, i was just wondering.
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Post by S on Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:01 am

Bentancur
Arthur---Ramsey

Meh. Need one more solid midfield reinforcement.
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Post by BarcaLearning on Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:15 am

If its true and the deal goes through, I would actually hope someone shoot or have a car run over these ppl who runs transfers at Barca, ffs...
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Post by El Gunner on Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:30 am

@S wrote:
Bentancur
Arthur---Ramsey

Meh. Need one more solid midfield reinforcement.

arent you guys trying to get rid of Ramsey?

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Post by rincon on Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:45 am

@El Gunner wrote:
@S wrote:
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Arthur---Ramsey

Meh. Need one more solid midfield reinforcement.

arent you guys trying to get rid of Ramsey?

Not necessarily. Depends on which players get what offers.

Ramsey is good, problem is, as you know more than us, the injuries.

He is a good player to have as an option, but you can't build a team around him. He isn't available too much of the time.

I'd prefer to sell Khedira or Matuidi at this point. But selling Ramsey or Khedira doesn't make too much of a difference if the replacement is a solid improvement. It also depends on Rabiot, and on Kulusevski. If Sarri sees Kulusevski as a midfielder we might be set, who knows.
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Post by Arquitecto on Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:24 am

Shipping Ramsey off would be a huge huge waste.

Yes he does not fit in this system given he is a more direct player who thrives off the momentum of plays along with more freedom but if found within the semantics he can be incredibly useful.

Arthur's use will be obvious similar to Jorginho for Napoli, it seems.

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Post by Warrior on Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:26 am

Rabiot will leave not Ramsey
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Post by rincon on Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:55 am

Ramsey has fit peefectly since he moved to mezzala. The problem is simply that he is always injured.
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Post by Luca on Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:59 am

Is this a good move for us brothers?

Based on this season, completely okay with moving Pjanic

We definitely need more in the middle, been clear to everyone
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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:59 am

I'd sell Raboit and Matuidi. Get rid of Khedira by any means necessary and keep Ramsey as the back up #8

Bring in a starting calibre #8 and find a couple of cheap journeyman bench players if money is an issue. I'm sure there are plenty of players on the right side of 30 who won't be earning as much as our broken old shit midfielders.

If we don't completely rebuild our midfield we'll be comfortably a tier below the best teams in Europe for the foreseeable future regardless of who our attackers are.

It won't be cheap but then again the way we play will see us missing out on a lot of CL money going forward when we're struggling to get past the R16 because we get about 0.5 fkin chances per game sometimes.

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Post by Myesyats on Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 pm

@BarcaLearning wrote:If its true and the deal goes through, I would actually hope someone shoot or have a car run over these ppl who runs transfers at Barca, ffs...

Miralem Pjanić - Frenkie de Jong - Thiago Alcantara

ffs treble guaranteed with that midfield :bow:
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Post by Thimmy on Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:49 pm

There is a possibility that Pjanic just needs a change of scenery to regain his motivation and perform closer to his prime level. Like I mentioned before, he’s caused Real Madrid a lot of problems while playing for teams of different quality in the Champions League. I don’t want to face that guy at the top of his game again.

Thankfully, Messi’s Barca’s freekick taker now, because I’m pretty sure Pjanic has scored more freekick goals against us in the Champions League, than Messi ever has. I’m not familiar with Pjanic’s freekick statistics for Juve, but I can’t think of a more consistent freekick specialist over the past decade.

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Post by RealGunner on Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:33 pm

Arthur aka the next xavi already shipped out by barca? Laughing

He is nothing but another Denilson minus the long shots. No idea why Juve want him. Huge downgrade on Pjanic.
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Post by Arquitecto on Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:03 pm

Having watched Pjanic since his Lyon days the case has been obvious for a while and neutrals or Juventini alike do not get it.


Pjanic is part of an old school and dying breed of #10's who play at their own pace and creativity to which the deep-lying hard working midfielder Allegri made him into, he is not. Nor that wasted mule in Sarri.


In Roma he played closer to that role under Rudi Garcia etc but in Juve for the most part he has been turned into an all-round workhorse, something to which he most definitely is not.


If Setién sees what most Pjanic observers do, then he will be world class for Barça no doubt, unless he would find it difficult to adapt again.


In skill comparison there is no comparison between Arthur and Pjanic, latter who is miles above.


As for free kicks, he was directly taught by the greatest FK taker of all time and has been for the most part the best of the decade, himself.


If Cristiano didn't take pretty much a lot of Juve's FK's I am sure with Pjanic's ratio he'd have had more by now.

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Post by Warrior on Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:26 pm

@Tomwin Lannister wrote:I'd sell Raboit and Matuidi. Get rid of Khedira by any means necessary and keep Ramsey as the back up #8


Add to that Rugani, De Sciglio, Pjaca, Perin it's worth 70 millions

All guys inferior to Pjanic

Buy Arthur fair enough. But in current situation, sacrifice Pjanic to get Arthur is sideways move at best. As if guys like Ronaldo and Chiellini are eternal and time is on our side Rolling Eyes 1 year and a half after Beppe and we are reduced to making accountant moves would you believe.
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Post by rincon on Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:35 pm

Cristiano hasnt taken all the free kicks for a long time. It was only at the start. Then he took the long range ones, with Pjanic closer range from the left, and Dybala the ones from the right.

Even in free kicks Pjanic has declined. Dybala is by far our best taker.

Pjanic's decline isn't physical though, he covers the most ground from the midfielders on our team. Its mental. He looks like his head isnt in it anymore. Last two season has been downhill.

Hope he rediscovers his form in Barcelona if he goes, all the best. He seems like he needs a change of air.
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Post by Thimmy on Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:52 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:Pjanic is part of an old school and dying breed of #10's who play at their own pace and creativity to which the deep-lying hard working midfielder Allegri made him into, he is not. Nor that wasted mule in Sarri.


In Roma he played closer to that role under Rudi Garcia etc but in Juve for the most part he has been turned into an all-round workhorse, something to which he most definitely is not.


I fully agree with your assessment, and it also makes me wonder if Arthur can become that workhorse, or profile of player that Sarri desires in Juve’s midfield. It might work out better for Juve than people assume.

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Post by Myesyats on Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:02 pm

I wanted us to sign Pjanic but that was 2-3 years ago. He can still give us two good seasons though and I dont think Arthur is going places tbh lol
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Post by Casciavit on Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:32 pm

Barca's board is the worst board in top level football. It consists of people who have no idea about squad building and the fact they've wasted Messi's prime years with their idiotic decision making is the biggest crime.

It's going to all go down.

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Post by Myesyats on Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:34 am

Laughing

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Post by Warrior on Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:01 am

I watch some Arthur highlights, it's a definite steal :coffee:

Seriously i'd have no problem if we just bought him instead. We lack a quality midfielder and there's not much on the market. Imagine we have Arthur, Pjanic, Bentancur, Ramsey, Kulusevski as mezzala and keep Matuidi for the energy... a bit light defensively but that midfield would start to look like something

Now, we are not much advanced lol. Perhaps Pjanic is just too bad casting in Sarri's system, in that case i'd understand the move if the money saved with this swap serves to buy another quality CM.
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Post by Myesyats on Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:53 am

Its definitely not a steal, we bought him for 30mil and he is nothing special as it turns out, decent squad player but that's all.
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