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Post by Thimmy Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:44 pm

Casciavit wrote:Seems to me like he was implementing his system with shitty players which impacted results. Now that he has better players more suited to it even if they aren’t the most glamorous names Arsenal is performing better.


Same impression as mine. I genuinely think Arsenal have been the most entertaining Prem team to watch this year, and it’s largely due to how Arteta has made the team play.

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Post by Casciavit Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:22 pm

Thimmy wrote:
Casciavit wrote:Seems to me like he was implementing his system with shitty players which impacted results. Now that he has better players more suited to it even if they aren’t the most glamorous names Arsenal is performing better.


Same impression as mine. I genuinely think Arsenal have been the most entertaining Prem team to watch this year, and it’s largely due to how Arteta has made the team play.


I mean the way he plays is why they hired him in the first play. It's just that if you want to play positional and possession football then the first tenant is to cleanly construct play from the back.

There's a big difference going from Leno, Chambers, and Holding doing that to Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, and Ben White.

I don't even remember who their DM was before Partey joined.

Their attackers were a bunch of kids. I don't think it was realistic to expect guys like Martinelli and Saka to consistently produce. Saka was playing in a different position every game. Now it seems like he'll be specializing as a RW. You can't become world-class until you specialize in a certain position.

Martinelli, Odegaard, and Saka are all gaining experience in those attacking midfield positions. Lacazette lacks the quality to lead the line but his playing style up front suits those players better.

Arteta also got rid of toxic influences like Ozil, Auba, and more. He's built an exciting and young team. They'll be even better with more signings this summer since they've already made their foundational signings. This is one of the few instances where trusting the process seems to have benefited the team when I think 95% of other teams would have sacked Arteta after the early season poor form.
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Post by El Gunner Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm

yea our recent form has really changed my tune on Arteta, as im sure some of you remember i was vehemently #ArtetaOut after we lost to Everton in early December. Since then though, it seems he has really gotten into the team, and even doubled down on his infamous "non-negotiables". He punished and outcasted our club captain Aubameyang so much so that he went on to leave. ESR kinda carried us in the rest of the December fixtures, January was a bit of a blip and underwhelming with no signings. But then after our Dubai mini-break, and with the solid makeshift double-pivot of Partey and Xhaka, we've started playing our most impressive and controlling football of the season.

So yea, for a long time i've been saying we only need young and hungry players that fit the system and that our willing to prove themselves rather than big name players, and it seems to be paying off now. It will be a huge step in the right direction if we get CL football.
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:54 am

How important has Partey been for your form? I remember him being injured for a while early season iirc?
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Post by Sina Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:43 am

^^
Re Partey:

He has been top class last few months in single pivot role
Does everything

Correct positioning,ball winning,line breaking passes,big switches of play,evading pressure,knowing when to play forward and when to play sideways/backwards to reset the move

He does it to a top standard whether it's against Norwich or Man city or Liverpool

Needs to keep it up,only issue in his Arsenal career so far has been consistency and he himself admitted it
Quality was never in doubt
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:12 am

Thx Sina, was excited Barca linked with him in the summer, though he might be a decent possible Busquets replacement Razz Congrats to Arsenal n Arteta for getting him.
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Post by danyjr Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:37 pm

I would give him one more season if Arsenal manage top 5, which they should considering United, Leicester and West Ham have been poor and not likely to catch them.

But if he ends up losing 4th spot to Spurs, he might still be considered a failure judging by the money spent and their competition (Spurs) being so bad they sacked their coach midseason.

All in all it depends on how the board will assess his work at the end of the season.
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Post by Firenze Mon May 16, 2022 9:42 pm

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Post by El Gunner Mon May 16, 2022 9:47 pm

we overhastily gave the dude a new contract after defeating Chelsea and United thinking we sealed CL football affraid
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue May 17, 2022 3:50 pm

Xhaka: We did not follow the game plan. We did not listen to the coach. We did not deserve the CL.

And people blame Arteta Laughing
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Post by danyjr Tue May 17, 2022 3:53 pm

To be fair if the coach has not enough charisma for the players to follow his orders it is his fault too.
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Post by El Gunner Tue May 17, 2022 4:47 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Xhaka: We did not follow the game plan. We did not listen to the coach. We did not deserve the CL.

And people blame Arteta Laughing

we've seen this movie way too many times before...
Arsenal only play free and well when they have nothing to lose... while they tense up and play like sissies when they feel the pressure

now as to who's to blame for that? entire culture at the club
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue May 17, 2022 5:53 pm

My prediction is we finish 8th/7th next season with EL football in our way. Was an awful decision to extend his contract so soon.
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 17, 2022 5:57 pm

The only target for next season needs to be

Win the EL
Finish top 4

sack him in dec if neither looks achievable

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Post by Doc Sun May 22, 2022 5:50 pm

Still trusting the process?
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Post by El Gunner Sun May 22, 2022 6:21 pm

we have no other choice
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Post by Thimmy Sun May 22, 2022 6:30 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Xhaka: We did not follow the game plan. We did not listen to the coach. We did not deserve the CL.

And people blame Arteta Laughing


This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone Razz The manager is the be all, end all in the eyes of most football fans. Papering over cracks by hiring a new manager is a thing.
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Post by S Sun May 22, 2022 6:48 pm

Arsenal need a Klopp style manager to revive the club again

Wasted too much time focusing on 'prospects' and jabroni's
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun May 22, 2022 7:02 pm

Arsenal will get CL if Liverpool win it correct? Otherwise its Europa?
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun May 22, 2022 7:11 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Arsenal will get CL if Liverpool win it correct? Otherwise its Europa?


No. They don't. It doesn't add an additional CL spot unless the fifth place or lower is the one that wins it.
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon May 23, 2022 3:51 am

Thanks Spencer, so it seems we will be seeing Arsenal n Man U in Europa... quite strange times Very Happy
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Post by El Gunner Mon May 23, 2022 10:20 am

it's quite the norm these days
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