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Post by Blue Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:41 am

Full Metal Jacket is probably my second favorite war movie, definitely one of Kubrick best movies. I have not seen Eyes Wide Shut, based on the description cant imagine it something i would like.

If curious The Deer Hunter tops my all time favorite war movie. If you have not seen it, i highly recommend it. imo it has some of the best moments in cinema history. I still watch it from time to time.

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Post by Arquitecto Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:45 pm

Harmonica wrote:
El Gunner wrote:it's part of a movie's overall greatness and the director's vision and direction to bring such a piece of composition out of a sound composer
Although there's lot of director composer duos, nothing beats Leone Morricone. Leone used to play Morricone's score in the set, so everybody could choreograph perfectly in sync.


No one was better than him. People these days hype Hans Zimmer to James Newton Howard forget how many in between generic pieces they have whereas Morricone succeeded for generations and wrote timeless pieces.


@Blue. Recommending Deer Hunter is a slippery slope as it had one of the slowest starts to any film and is quite acquired of a taste to watch.

Brilliant film as I'd rate it 5/5 but would be interesting to see how many here like it.
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Post by Blue Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:04 am

Arquitecto wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
El Gunner wrote:it's part of a movie's overall greatness and the director's vision and direction to bring such a piece of composition out of a sound composer
Although there's lot of director composer duos, nothing beats Leone Morricone. Leone used to play Morricone's score in the set, so everybody could choreograph perfectly in sync.


No one was better than him. People these days hype Hans Zimmer to James Newton Howard forget how many in between generic pieces they have whereas Morricone succeeded for generations and wrote timeless pieces.


@Blue. Recommending Deer Hunter is a slippery slope as it had one of the slowest starts to any film and is quite acquired of a taste to watch.

Brilliant film as I'd rate it 5/5 but would be interesting to see how many here like it.


You are right it is not everyone kinda tune. For anyone coming expecting a lot of action will be disappointed and it is a 3 hour movie.

I love how the first part of the movie introduces the characters and community. Virtually every movie spends little or no time meeting the characters before they are in uniform. You only get to know them when they are at war. But in The Deer Hunter it is opposite.

To know the effect you have to know what it was before.

What you get is the most relatable characters in war movie ever. Bunch of friends going about their simple life; work and spending their off time having fun and getting drunk. And specifically we all know a guy like them.

Michael( De Niro)- the quiet and calm guy, who is quite grounded.
Nick- the fun and carefree dude.
Steven- the young pup, the guy everyone looks after.
John- the guy who is always happy, and having fun all the time.
Axel- the goof.
Stanley- the prick and asshole we all know. This is John Cazale last movie, unbelievable actor every movie he has appeared on was nominated for best picture. You always hate his characters, but it is hard not to appreciate his great acting.

Depicting war can be very tricky from a mental standpoint, so this movie introduces Russian roulette to bridge that gap because like war especially in Vietnam you never know when that next built comes for you, can only hope it is not loaded.

The piano bar scene when it transition to the Vietnam war is one of my favorite scenes in cinema. Singing and being drunk, when John starts playing Chopin’s Nocturne No. 6 in G Minor is incredibly impactful.

Anyway masterful movie, i agree I think some will either love it or find boring and slow.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:32 am

Blue wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Although there's lot of director composer duos, nothing beats Leone Morricone. Leone used to play Morricone's score in the set, so everybody could choreograph perfectly in sync.


No one was better than him. People these days hype Hans Zimmer to James Newton Howard forget how many in between generic pieces they have whereas Morricone succeeded for generations and wrote timeless pieces.


@Blue. Recommending Deer Hunter is a slippery slope as it had one of the slowest starts to any film and is quite acquired of a taste to watch.

Brilliant film as I'd rate it 5/5 but would be interesting to see how many here like it.


You are right it is not everyone kinda tune. For anyone coming expecting a lot of action will be disappointed and it is a 3 hour movie.

I love how the first part of the movie introduces the characters and community. Virtually every movie spends little or no time meeting the characters before they are in uniform. You only get to know them when they are at war. But in The Deer Hunter it is opposite.

To know the effect you have to know what it was before.

What you get is the most relatable characters in war movie ever. Bunch of friends going about their simple life; work and spending their off time having fun and getting drunk. And specifically we all know a guy like them.

Michael( De Niro)- the quiet and calm guy, who is quite grounded.
Nick- the fun and carefree dude.
Steven- the young pup, the guy everyone looks after.
John- the guy who is always happy, and having fun all the time.
Axel- the goof.
Stanley- the prick and asshole we all know. This is John Cazale last movie, unbelievable actor every movie he has appeared on was nominated for best picture. You always hate his characters, but it is hard not to appreciate his great acting.

Depicting war can be very tricky from a mental standpoint, so this movie introduces Russian roulette to bridge that gap because like war especially in Vietnam you never know when that next built comes for you, can only hope it is not loaded.

The piano bar scene when it transition to the Vietnam war is one of my favorite scenes in cinema. Singing and being drunk, when John starts playing Chopin’s Nocturne No. 6 in G Minor is incredibly impactful.

Anyway masterful movie, i agree I think some will either love it or find boring and slow.


Oh man that was satisfying to read. Will watch out for future recommendations of yours based on your insight in a film let alone the patience for Cimino's classic in Deer Hunter. Brilliant.
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Post by Blue Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:21 am

Arquitecto wrote:
Blue wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:

No one was better than him. People these days hype Hans Zimmer to James Newton Howard forget how many in between generic pieces they have whereas Morricone succeeded for generations and wrote timeless pieces.


@Blue. Recommending Deer Hunter is a slippery slope as it had one of the slowest starts to any film and is quite acquired of a taste to watch.

Brilliant film as I'd rate it 5/5 but would be interesting to see how many here like it.


You are right it is not everyone kinda tune. For anyone coming expecting a lot of action will be disappointed and it is a 3 hour movie.

I love how the first part of the movie introduces the characters and community. Virtually every movie spends little or no time meeting the characters before they are in uniform. You only get to know them when they are at war. But in The Deer Hunter it is opposite.

To know the effect you have to know what it was before.

What you get is the most relatable characters in war movie ever. Bunch of friends going about their simple life; work and spending their off time having fun and getting drunk. And specifically we all know a guy like them.

Michael( De Niro)- the quiet and calm guy, who is quite grounded.
Nick- the fun and carefree dude.
Steven- the young pup, the guy everyone looks after.
John- the guy who is always happy, and having fun all the time.
Axel- the goof.
Stanley- the prick and asshole we all know. This is John Cazale last movie, unbelievable actor every movie he has appeared on was nominated for best picture. You always hate his characters, but it is hard not to appreciate his great acting.

Depicting war can be very tricky from a mental standpoint, so this movie introduces Russian roulette to bridge that gap because like war especially in Vietnam you never know when that next built comes for you, can only hope it is not loaded.

The piano bar scene when it transition to the Vietnam war is one of my favorite scenes in cinema. Singing and being drunk, when John starts playing Chopin’s Nocturne No. 6 in G Minor is incredibly impactful.

Anyway masterful movie, i agree I think some will either love it or find boring and slow.


Oh man that was satisfying to read. Will watch out for future recommendations of yours based on your insight in a film let alone the patience for Cimino's classic in Deer Hunter. Brilliant.


Appreciate your kind words.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:29 pm

i'm so happy.... i thought 2021 didn't have a 5-star film... ladies and gentlemen, Ridley Scott still has it in him...

THE LAST DUEL :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by McAgger Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:46 am

The Last Duel was great. I have it ranked 2nd for 2021 for me.

Dune was a masterpiece for me and by far the best of 2021. I was a huge fan of the books growing up so I have nostalgia factor going for it, I definitely understand people wanting to wait for Part II to give proper judgement on it because of where the story stops. But Denis Villeneuve built a world I thought was impossible to bring to the big screen.

2021 Ranking
Dune - 9.0
The Last Duel - 8.5
Nightmare Alley - 8.3
Belfast - 8.3
Oxygen - 8.1
Zack Snyder’s Justice League - 8.1
Last night in Soho - 8.0
Judas and the Black Messiah - 8.0
The Worst Person In The World - 8.0

I didn't watch too many and I'm sure I'm definitely missing a lot of good ones for the year but I ranked a lot in the 7.5-7.9 region. These were the only ones that broke the 8.0 mark on my personal made up film grading system. I very rarely give 9.0 or above so Dune had to be special to break that.



EDIT: Added a couple of more I forgot to include.


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Post by El Gunner Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:10 am

haven't seen Oxygen out of those, will be on it. Didn't like Last Night in Soho... Edgar Wright's first career dud imo

i'll make my official ranking the day of the Oscars as always but here's some other films i enjoyed you might not have seen yet:
Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy
The Beta Test
The Lost Daughter
Red Rocket
Tragedy of Macbeth
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:26 am

Last Duel (like countless films) is one I've procrastinated in seeing. Ridley Scott Im sure some know is the absolute granddaddy of the epic genre so not surprised he came out with another knocker. Aflleck and Damon is a...really odd choice for one Laughing but should stimulate my senses for that genre.
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Post by McAgger Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:19 am

Adding a couple of more I forgot to include.

Nightmare Alley - 8.3
The Worst Person In The World - 8.0
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Post by The Madrid One Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:20 pm

Saw The Batman, was disappointed by the movie; the part I enjoyed the most was when Robert Pattinson actually popped out for real by surprise inside my movie theater to wish us all a good time. I basically had front row seats and he actually came out right in front of me, was at arms length. Twas cool.

As for the movie, without trying to spoil it: I liked the casting choices and the visual aesthetics of the movie but the story, plot, and general feel of the movie was not to my liking at all and it unfortunately was par for the course schlock for what can be expected of mainstream "superhero" movies. I was not surprised but still I was disappointed as I love Batman and the lore and I was hoping the sensibilities shown in the first trailer would by some miracle from god pan out with more tasteful substance behind them than how it all inevitably turned out. I remember the first trailer looked and felt like a dream to me, in the following teasers and trailers I could feel the cracks already.

Felt kinda bummed out for the cast actually, they deserved better. The movie is also a good example for me of why in an ideal world there wouldn't be superhero movies anymore, i'd much rather see a The Batman TV series with artistic integrity produced by HBO or something, the movie format is a tired and limiting one. The movie was 3 hours long and it was used clumsily, and it all wreaks of soulless corporatism. Weak and even embarrassing at points.

I'm not much for theaters or Hollywood, hadn't gone to a theater since The Last Jedi, both then and now I was disappointed and I knew I was going to be. I always think it's a shame when shiny movies with so much resources behind them end up being trite garbage. Kinda like eating a hollow tasteless cake with fancy decoration on it; you know it's not healthy and that nutritionally it is garbage because it's cake, but when you actually start eating a slice of it it's even worse because it's so bland and typical despite the decoration. Just throw out the fucking cakes.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:01 pm

Dafuq another Batman movie? Laughing

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Post by Thimmy Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:23 am

I didn't know where else to put this. This guy is doing a great job acting like Pennywise. He's really creepy Laughing

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Post by Glory Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:45 am

The Madrid One wrote:Saw The Batman, was disappointed by the movie; the part I enjoyed the most was when Robert Pattinson actually popped out for real by surprise inside my movie theater to wish us all a good time. I basically had front row seats and he actually came out right in front of me, was at arms length. Twas cool.

As for the movie, without trying to spoil it: I liked the casting choices and the visual aesthetics of the movie but the story, plot, and general feel of the movie was not to my liking at all and it unfortunately was par for the course schlock for what can be expected of mainstream "superhero" movies. I was not surprised but still I was disappointed as I love Batman and the lore and I was hoping the sensibilities shown in the first trailer would by some miracle from god pan out with more tasteful substance behind them than how it all inevitably turned out. I remember the first trailer looked and felt like a dream to me, in the following teasers and trailers I could feel the cracks already.

Felt kinda bummed out for the cast actually, they deserved better. The movie is also a good example for me of why in an ideal world there wouldn't be superhero movies anymore, i'd much rather see a The Batman TV series with artistic integrity produced by HBO or something, the movie format is a tired and limiting one. The movie was 3 hours long and it was used clumsily, and it all wreaks of soulless corporatism. Weak and even embarrassing at points.  

I'm not much for theaters or Hollywood, hadn't gone to a theater since The Last Jedi, both then and now I was disappointed and I knew I was going to be. I always think it's a shame when shiny movies with so much resources behind them end up being trite garbage. Kinda like eating a hollow tasteless cake with fancy decoration on it; you know it's not healthy and that nutritionally it is garbage because it's cake, but when you actually start eating a slice of it it's even worse because it's so bland and typical despite the decoration. Just throw out the fucking cakes.


Agreed. Except for Pattinson's acting, the movie was a big meh for me. Same old same old. When you are making like the 100th batman movie, you have to atleast put an effort to make it unique, right? Instead turned out to b just another Batman begins with younger main characters.

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Post by M99 Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:08 am

The Madrid One wrote:Saw The Batman, was disappointed by the movie; the part I enjoyed the most was when Robert Pattinson actually popped out for real by surprise inside my movie theater to wish us all a good time. I basically had front row seats and he actually came out right in front of me, was at arms length. Twas cool.

As for the movie, without trying to spoil it: I liked the casting choices and the visual aesthetics of the movie but the story, plot, and general feel of the movie was not to my liking at all and it unfortunately was par for the course schlock for what can be expected of mainstream "superhero" movies. I was not surprised but still I was disappointed as I love Batman and the lore and I was hoping the sensibilities shown in the first trailer would by some miracle from god pan out with more tasteful substance behind them than how it all inevitably turned out. I remember the first trailer looked and felt like a dream to me, in the following teasers and trailers I could feel the cracks already.

Felt kinda bummed out for the cast actually, they deserved better. The movie is also a good example for me of why in an ideal world there wouldn't be superhero movies anymore, i'd much rather see a The Batman TV series with artistic integrity produced by HBO or something, the movie format is a tired and limiting one. The movie was 3 hours long and it was used clumsily, and it all wreaks of soulless corporatism. Weak and even embarrassing at points.

I'm not much for theaters or Hollywood, hadn't gone to a theater since The Last Jedi, both then and now I was disappointed and I knew I was going to be. I always think it's a shame when shiny movies with so much resources behind them end up being trite garbage. Kinda like eating a hollow tasteless cake with fancy decoration on it; you know it's not healthy and that nutritionally it is garbage because it's cake, but when you actually start eating a slice of it it's even worse because it's so bland and typical despite the decoration. Just throw out the fucking cakes.


This is probably the most pretentious post in the history of GL.
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Post by Arquitecto Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:15 pm

M99 wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:Saw The Batman, was disappointed by the movie; the part I enjoyed the most was when Robert Pattinson actually popped out for real by surprise inside my movie theater to wish us all a good time. I basically had front row seats and he actually came out right in front of me, was at arms length. Twas cool.

As for the movie, without trying to spoil it: I liked the casting choices and the visual aesthetics of the movie but the story, plot, and general feel of the movie was not to my liking at all and it unfortunately was par for the course schlock for what can be expected of mainstream "superhero" movies. I was not surprised but still I was disappointed as I love Batman and the lore and I was hoping the sensibilities shown in the first trailer would by some miracle from god pan out with more tasteful substance behind them than how it all inevitably turned out. I remember the first trailer looked and felt like a dream to me, in the following teasers and trailers I could feel the cracks already.

Felt kinda bummed out for the cast actually, they deserved better. The movie is also a good example for me of why in an ideal world there wouldn't be superhero movies anymore, i'd much rather see a The Batman TV series with artistic integrity produced by HBO or something, the movie format is a tired and limiting one. The movie was 3 hours long and it was used clumsily, and it all wreaks of soulless corporatism. Weak and even embarrassing at points.

I'm not much for theaters or Hollywood, hadn't gone to a theater since The Last Jedi, both then and now I was disappointed and I knew I was going to be. I always think it's a shame when shiny movies with so much resources behind them end up being trite garbage. Kinda like eating a hollow tasteless cake with fancy decoration on it; you know it's not healthy and that nutritionally it is garbage because it's cake, but when you actually start eating a slice of it it's even worse because it's so bland and typical despite the decoration. Just throw out the fucking cakes.


This is probably the most pretentious post in the history of GL.


Once you hear him speak your opinion will be reinforced Laughing
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Post by El Gunner Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:02 pm

fear not brethren, for i will be going to see it tomorrow, then i'll give my respected opinion
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Post by Freeza Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:01 pm

M99 wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:Saw The Batman, was disappointed by the movie; the part I enjoyed the most was when Robert Pattinson actually popped out for real by surprise inside my movie theater to wish us all a good time. I basically had front row seats and he actually came out right in front of me, was at arms length. Twas cool.

As for the movie, without trying to spoil it: I liked the casting choices and the visual aesthetics of the movie but the story, plot, and general feel of the movie was not to my liking at all and it unfortunately was par for the course schlock for what can be expected of mainstream "superhero" movies. I was not surprised but still I was disappointed as I love Batman and the lore and I was hoping the sensibilities shown in the first trailer would by some miracle from god pan out with more tasteful substance behind them than how it all inevitably turned out. I remember the first trailer looked and felt like a dream to me, in the following teasers and trailers I could feel the cracks already.

Felt kinda bummed out for the cast actually, they deserved better. The movie is also a good example for me of why in an ideal world there wouldn't be superhero movies anymore, i'd much rather see a The Batman TV series with artistic integrity produced by HBO or something, the movie format is a tired and limiting one. The movie was 3 hours long and it was used clumsily, and it all wreaks of soulless corporatism. Weak and even embarrassing at points.  

I'm not much for theaters or Hollywood, hadn't gone to a theater since The Last Jedi, both then and now I was disappointed and I knew I was going to be. I always think it's a shame when shiny movies with so much resources behind them end up being trite garbage. Kinda like eating a hollow tasteless cake with fancy decoration on it; you know it's not healthy and that nutritionally it is garbage because it's cake, but when you actually start eating a slice of it it's even worse because it's so bland and typical despite the decoration. Just throw out the fucking cakes.


This is probably the most pretentious post in the history of GL.

Remember his voice recording some years back? Actually reminded me of
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Still haunts me to this day. What a fucking guy rofl
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Post by RealGunner Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:36 pm

Welcome back man :bow: was wondering where you were
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Post by Freeza Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:13 pm

Thanks!

I’ve just been away a lot trying to get my mind right. Been having a rough patch since December.

Can’t wait for some sunnier times and hopefully less depression.
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Post by The Madrid One Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:32 pm

Once something like this



is made, you can only really go downhill really.

The Batman doesn't hold a candle.
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Post by jibers Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:25 pm

The Batman for me is the best Batman movie I've seen overall. Loved it. Never thought I would say this but I think it's score is better than that of Zimmer's. Only thing I didn't like was the

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The movie was much more grounded than any Batman movie I've seen.

9.8/10
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Post by Harmonica Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:17 pm

Watched first modern movie in like a year. I'm always been a fan of Frank Herberts Dune, Lynches version and even more of the mini-series. 2021 Dune was visually stunning, and I liked the political aspect of it as the source material allows it. But it falls in the same pitfalls as Game of Thrones, all the good guys die predictably in a row, after trying to make 10 minutes viewers to like each of them. And then the one bad guy that could've died, predictably somehow survives. This of course is for the sequels, which currently kind of feels like mix of Disney Wars and Game of Thrones. I will watch the sequels, but only because I'm a fan of the franchise still. But as a standalone movie it's weak. 2.5/5
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Post by El Gunner Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:20 pm

Before the Oscars piss you off with their petty politics, let me tell you what's up.
https://letterboxd.com/o_cav/list/2021-in-film/
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Post by RealGunner Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:32 pm

El Gunner wrote:Before the Oscars piss you off with their petty politics, let me tell you what's up.
https://letterboxd.com/o_cav/list/2021-in-film/


Is the last duel really that good?
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Post by Harmonica Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:50 pm

RealGunner wrote:
El Gunner wrote:Before the Oscars piss you off with their petty politics, let me tell you what's up.
https://letterboxd.com/o_cav/list/2021-in-film/


Is the last duel really that good?
If it's anything like Ridley Scotts The Duellist, should be superb by todays standards. Might as well as watch it today.
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