Donald Trump Sack Watch

Pedram wrote:

Unique wrote:

Pedram wrote:


You're either really dumb or purposefully blind to not get his point.

what I see is a couple of Germans that are disgusted that a bunch of stupid Americans as they like to call them voted for trump when it had absolutely no effect on the life they have in Germany. It's like they are upset that Americans fucked them over by voting for a president that helps them. It's like a personal insult to them that trump is president.

Well maybe he's not selfish enough to ignore all of Trump's deeds just because they don't effect him personally, like for example his Muslim ban, or bombing a hospital full off civilians in Yemen, you know i'm just scratching the surface here, he's done plenty of bad things to people worldwide.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Unique wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:


I'm a citizen of the world, my friend

so in other words absolutely nothing changed for you either.

there's loads of different levels to this, from the fact the German political climate is heavily influenced by what happens in the US (we'd been occupied by them for 40 years, basically) to the fact that I'm also interested in things happening that don't directly affect my situation.

but, just for example, climate change doesn't stop at borders, and the major power and economy of the western world actively sabotaging any effort to save our ecosystem before it reaches a potentially catastrophic tipping point is of urgent interest to me.

and then, the German situation has changed, there's a right wing extremist party on the rise which is funded by Steve Bannon for example, and which is openly supported by Trump's Ambassador to Germany Grenell (who also supports Neonazis in Austria) and god knows what sections of US services.

Bannon's Cambridge Analytica has made Brexit possible, which does affect me as a couple of good friends as well as a cousin of of mine lives in London

Trump is propping up Erdogan, allowing Turkish invasion of Syria, helping ISIS to rise again, all of which leads to more refugees having to flee and coming into Europe and Germany, ..

etc pp

my rent hasn't changed due to Trump (it has changed due to what he embodies though), and neither have my wages, but I am interested and invested in what happens in US politics anyway, have been before Trump too

Pedram wrote:

Unique wrote:

Pedram wrote:


You're either really dumb or purposefully blind to not get his point.

what I see is a couple of Germans that are disgusted that a bunch of stupid Americans as they like to call them voted for trump when it had absolutely no effect on the life they have in Germany. It's like they are upset that Americans fucked them over by voting for a president that helps them. It's like a personal insult to them that trump is president.

Well maybe he's not selfish enough to ignore all of Trump's deeds just because they don't effect him personally, like for example his Muslim ban, or bombing a hospital full off civilians in Yemen, you know i'm just scratching the surface here, he's done plenty of bad things to people worldwide.

Freeza wrote:Describing ‘American mindset’ as some kind of monolith is also plenty oblivious. It’s an enormous country with a lot of different cultures. I too know a fair amount of Americans, none of them are alike, but everyone despised Trump. Still don’t see how that’s relevant in a general discussion about the election, since evidence like that is nothing more than a strawman.

Also regarding being Iranian. How to do you still choose to support Trump? I find his actions pretty terrible to attack Iran, whose regime definitely are terrible themselves, and then sucking up to one of the biggest evils in Saudi Arabia.

Also @Unique. Please offer something to a discussion. You literally never make any effort in posting coherent posts that have any resemblance of an actual argument.

I have never claimed myself to be a savant. But if you’re referencing the movie thread I actually do have degree in film and with a minor in representation in media. But what do I know.

Unique wrote: but trump is not the cuase of any of that and he is not the salution to any of it. The things you pointed out were happening before trump came along and will continue long after he's gone. At the end of the day nothing really changes in the world that's why I only care about my little patch of earth tbh.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Unique wrote: but trump is not the cuase of any of that and he is not the salution to any of it. The things you pointed out were happening before trump came along and will continue long after he's gone. At the end of the day nothing really changes in the world that's why I only care about my little patch of earth tbh.

That's true but he still affects all of it rather strongly and negatively in my humble opinion, and he stands for basically all that I detest, and that's why I have a strong opinion against him.
As for the last sentence, I can understand the sentiment but it's just not valid for me. It's too narrow-minded a worldview for me, literally.

Zagadka wrote:

Freeza wrote:Describing ‘American mindset’ as some kind of monolith is also plenty oblivious. It’s an enormous country with a lot of different cultures. I too know a fair amount of Americans, none of them are alike, but everyone despised Trump. Still don’t see how that’s relevant in a general discussion about the election, since evidence like that is nothing more than a strawman.

Also regarding being Iranian. How to do you still choose to support Trump? I find his actions pretty terrible to attack Iran, whose regime definitely are terrible themselves, and then sucking up to one of the biggest evils in Saudi Arabia.

Also @Unique. Please offer something to a discussion. You literally never make any effort in posting coherent posts that have any resemblance of an actual argument.

I have never claimed myself to be a savant. But if you’re referencing the movie thread I actually do have degree in film and with a minor in representation in media. But what do I know.

Funnily, the Iranians I know in States who voted H in 2016 and now are saying (at this moment) they want to vote T in 2020, they say Trump's Iran policy is a main driver. They think if Dems come to power, they come and empower the regime again with some sort od deal, whereas Trump will continue to suck the economic oxygen out and with frequency of public protests increasing lately, in addition to regime's PR propaganda failing, and increasing public anger (after shooting down a civilian airliner and killing 1500 people in 3 days - CoronaVirus is yet to kill that many people in almost a month!!-)...there is more chance of eventual organic fall of the regime.

Blue wrote:@McLewis

But this though

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/476990-how-nancy-pelosi-enables-trumps-reelection

Come on man this is theatre, no one is going to out Trump at his own game. He is the master at discourse and reality tv. This is his game.

As the article points out where is the actual objection to Trumps on policy, in fact she has supported Trumps agenda.

Nancy Pelosi is as much of a cancer to American politics as Trump, corrupt and indefensible.

CBarca wrote:I voted for Hillary, but came out of it feeling less than happy. It was what I thought needed to be done though.

McLewis wrote:

CBarca wrote:I voted for Hillary, but came out of it feeling less than happy. It was what I thought needed to be done though.

As soon as it became clear to me that he was taking the Electoral College route, my vote essentially ceased to matter. That's why I ended up voting for Johnson. It was a vote of protest, I suppose.

McLewis wrote:

CBarca wrote:I voted for Hillary, but came out of it feeling less than happy. It was what I thought needed to be done though.

As soon as it became clear to me that he was taking the Electoral College route, my vote essentially ceased to matter. That's why I ended up voting for Johnson. It was a vote of protest, I suppose.

Young Kaz wrote:

McLewis wrote:

CBarca wrote:I voted for Hillary, but came out of it feeling less than happy. It was what I thought needed to be done though.

As soon as it became clear to me that he was taking the Electoral College route, my vote essentially ceased to matter. That's why I ended up voting for Johnson. It was a vote of protest, I suppose.

What does a black person get out of the libertarian party?

I mean, I can understand a white person in the south who feels slighted by the federal government stopping him from marrying his first cousin, or making his son go to school with minorities like us....but I dont see any appeal for libertarianism by minorities. In fact if they had their way the black and latino middle classes in DC and California would be decimated with the eradication of government agencies and the jobs that go with them.

CBarca wrote:

McLewis wrote:

CBarca wrote:I voted for Hillary, but came out of it feeling less than happy. It was what I thought needed to be done though.

As soon as it became clear to me that he was taking the Electoral College route, my vote essentially ceased to matter. That's why I ended up voting for Johnson. It was a vote of protest, I suppose.

Can you expand here, McLewis?

You live in MI. Your vote matters more than 90% of the nation, especially when going the "electoral college" route.

TOUGH GUYS FOR TRUMP! pic.twitter.com/DbjZjGzLWU

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 11, 2020

Hapless_Hans wrote:He just doesn't give a fuck about anything

amazing

RealGunner wrote:I don't think he realised who that actually is

Unique wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:He just doesn't give a fuck about anything

amazing

trump has the best or worst case ( depending on how you look at it )  of narcissism ive ever seen. he has levels i can only dream of

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Unique wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:He just doesn't give a fuck about anything

amazing

trump has the best or worst case ( depending on how you look at it )  of narcissism ive ever seen. he has levels i can only dream of

Yep. Nothing can bother him. Everything he does, or is connected too, will always be the best and greatest ever, no matter what it is, and whether great or good is even a meaningful category to describe it.