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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:35 pm

@Young Kaz wrote:To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing.

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.
so if the country is doing well why do people hate on trump.

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Post by Unique on Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:37 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Unique wrote:scenes when trump worms his way out of impeachment and wins the next election Laughing Laughing


He doesn't need to worm his way out of it, to get removed from office a 2/3 majority of the senate would have to vote so and that's not going to happen as the Republicans hold the majority
so its the OJ court case all over again. the evidence is there. we all know he did it yet he walks free Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:02 pm

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@Hapless_Hans wrote:to do that you must beat him, anyone but Biden will do


What's the data to back this up? Polls consistently show Biden as the likeliest to beat Trump


Yeah like Hilary was supposed to beat Trump, data showed that too.

Gut feeling Trump wins again vs Biden, just don't think Biden and establishment offer anything. On the other hand Trump can point out his strong economy, and play the anti establishment rhetroic.

Regarding the inpeahment, it is a shame imo. There are many things the Dems can persue to impeach Trump truly, but they chose this because he went after one of their own. Exposing the other party corruption is a red line and unwritten rule of what not to do in American poltics. Trump attempted to leaverage Hunter and Joe Biden corruption in Ukraine to build up for his reelaction. This was impeachable offense from the party perspective. Polsi recently admitted that she knew George Bush was lying to the public regarding the Iraq war, but that was not impeacgable. So
This saga is not about moral or Constitutional obligation, this is about protecting one of their own.


Hillary didn't have competition. If she did, the data wouldn't have backed that up because she is an extraordinarily disliked politician, the most ever nominated by the party.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:03 pm

@Unique wrote:scenes when trump worms his way out of impeachment and wins the next election Laughing Laughing
Well this is the likeliest scenario right now so we will probably see it

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Post by Young Kaz on Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

@Unique wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing.

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.
so if the country is doing well why do people hate on trump.


Because he's what you brits would call a chav.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:28 pm

@Young Kaz wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing.

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.
so if the country is doing well why do people hate on trump.


Because he's what you brits would call a chav.


No he's not. His father was a real estate mogul ffs.

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Post by Young Kaz on Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:04 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:
@Unique wrote:
so if the country is doing well why do people hate on trump.


Because he's what you brits would call a chav.


No he's not. His father was a real estate mogul ffs.


Used by money made from whore houses.

his dad is the same guy who was arrested at a KKK rally...in Queens of all places. Textbook white trash like his son serving fast foot to people in the white house.
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Post by Myesyats on Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:42 am

Betty and the evil white man, chapter 237
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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:11 am

@Myesyats wrote:Betty and the evil white man, chapter 237
Laughing Laughing

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Post by Myesyats on Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am

Not kidding, that book would be a bestseller!!

The plot would revolve around Asian women who hate Asian men and how that fuels Asian men's hate for the white man, it only makes sense!

I am in no position to speak though since I live in the whitest country in Europe, at least.
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Post by Blue on Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:52 am

@Young Kaz wrote:To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing..

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.


If Trump wins it has everything to do with who Democrats put up. Democrats have done nothing to change and provide alternative message to the Trump campighn.  Since they lost in 2016, they have blamed everyone but themselves for their loss, either it was Russia or Berniie backers.
stablishment Dems are not sending any message about how they would govern
Biden is as corrupt as Trump, they are basically the same without Trump vulgarity and incite controversy.

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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:45 am

@Myesyats wrote:Not kidding, that book would be a bestseller!!

The plot would revolve around Asian women who hate Asian men and how that fuels Asian men's hate for the white man, it only makes sense!

I am in no position to speak though since I live in the whitest country in Europe, at least.
tbh Betty don't have to worry about me ass banging any Asian chicks they are not my type. They all look 12 yo Very Happy

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Post by Myesyats on Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:23 pm

@Unique wrote:they are not my type

Quite the contrary for me, I love thin women and east asian women are typically slim, rarely thicc. There were a bunch of Korean ladies at my Uni and I can't say they weren't attractive *wink wink*

Also, besides them not being your type, you have a wife sir!!
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Post by Pedram on Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:25 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@Unique wrote:they are not my type

Quite the contrary for me, I love thin women and east asian women are typically slim, rarely thicc. There were a bunch of Korean ladies at my Uni and I can't say they weren't attractive *wink wink*

Also, besides them not being your type, you have a wife sir!!

You're just taking the piss aren't you. Laughing
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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:26 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@Unique wrote:they are not my type

Quite the contrary for me, I love thin women and east asian women are typically slim, rarely thicc. There were a bunch of Korean ladies at my Uni and I can't say they weren't attractive *wink wink*

Also, besides them not being your type, you have a wife sir!!
true Laughing

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Post by futbol on Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:09 pm

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Post by Young Kaz on Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:34 am

@Blue wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:To be honest, if trump wins it will have nothing to do with who the democrats put against him, and everything to do with how well the country is doing..

Unemployment is as low as it has been since the late 60's. You kinda of cant vote him out if it remains like this. The average person isnt unhappy enough to spend the effort it takes to vote.


If Trump wins it has everything to do with who Democrats put up. Democrats have done nothing to change and provide alternative message to the Trump campighn.  Since they lost in 2016, they have blamed everyone but themselves for their loss, either it was Russia or Berniie backers.
stablishment Dems are not sending any message about how they would govern
Biden is as corrupt as Trump, they are basically the same without Trump vulgarity and incite controversy.


Unemployment is the lowest its been since 1969. You are aware that was 20 years before both of us were born right? In fact that was before my mom was born. What message could they give that would get your mom out of the bed to vote next year?

"Hey, I know everybody has a job and everything but lets get him out so you can get free shit"

Thats not gonna work.

Americans dont care about corruption. We re-elected Bush in 04(not us as we were in high school, but you get the point).

Unless the market tanks it will come down to Biden convincing people it was him and Obama who caused this turn around...and he'd be right.
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Post by Freeza on Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:45 am

Unemployment is such an empty statistic

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Post by Young Kaz on Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:38 am

@Freeza wrote:Unemployment is such an empty statistic



People with jobs arent going to be motivated to get off their ass to vote somebody out just for the promise of "Free" stuff.

This country is fundamentally better now than it was in 2008. Is it because of trump? No, but hes at the wheel and the only other person running who could make an argument for the car running is Biden....and even that might not be enough if things stay where they are. People will just stay home, or go to work.
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Post by Unique on Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:14 am

@Freeza wrote:Unemployment is such an empty statistic
true. Instead of getting the American people into jobs trump.should have opened the borders and took in the whole of north America just to keep you happy. Corrected


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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:22 am

uh... there were no south americans trying to sneak through the border. from panama upwards it's north america :whistle:

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Post by McLewis on Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:22 pm

I tend to agree with CBarca. Trump is doing very poorly in the states that gave him the presidency in 2016. I mean he's underwater in Georgia ffs. GEORGIA. Texas is poised to be a purple state and Arizona will be hotly contested in the West, given its the home state of John McCain and they won't have forgotten how Trump treated him before he died. He cannot win in 2020 without the states he's currently underwater in.

What I'm concerned about is the electors. Trump will go this route again and this time the Dems have to pay better attention to these electors and not take them for granted. This is exactly how Trump won in 2016. The popular vote is only part of it.
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Post by VivaStPauli on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:34 am

Most jobs created are low wage part time though. People aren't really doing better, there's a ton of working poor, none of which should exist in the world's richest country.

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Post by Young Kaz on Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 am

@VivaStPauli wrote:Most jobs created are low wage part time though. People aren't really doing better, there's a ton of working poor, none of which should exist in the world's richest country.


Most jobs have always been low wage, and less than full time. People have some mythical idea of America in the 50's where 1 man could afford to take care of their family on a factory job, with a white picket fence, a stay at home wife, 3 kids, and a dog. That isnt realistic, and that wasnt the reality for most back then. Minorities in America didnt have a pot to piss in, nor a window to throw it out of. The jobs were even worse then than now because at least with Uber or Mcdonalds you can come home. Plenty of people were traveling and didnt even have a home to go to when they came back.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:49 pm

something like 175 years ago, unemployment in the US was practically nonexistant, though quite a lot of jobs were really, really, really low pay

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Post by Young Kaz on Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:14 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:something like 175 years ago, unemployment in the US was practically nonexistant, though quite a lot of jobs were really, really, really low pay


Funny enough you pick 1844, and not a few years earlier where the economy fell apart and we elected a whig who promised to fix it.

People with jobs dont want change.
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