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Post by Pedram Tue 29 Oct 2019, 10:50

He probably thought if they capture his children they might extract useful information from them regarding ISIS cells, might as well tie up all loose ends.

Killing your own children to save ISIS, now that's some crazy level of dedication to the cause.

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Post by McLewis Tue 29 Oct 2019, 13:06

I guess my point here is that al-Baghdadi's followers consider him and his kids to be martyrs to the cause. Every leader of this organization we've taken out has been considered as such as it serves as a rallying cause to the next generation, perpetuating the terror and thus the war on terror itself. There is no foreseeable end to this. That favors ISIS and Trump poured fuel on that fire.
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Post by Myesyats Tue 29 Oct 2019, 13:27

It's kinda like saying 'why kill Hitler, neo-nazis will still exist'. It's crucial to obliterate the leaders who are the masterminds of their operations.
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Post by CBarca Tue 29 Oct 2019, 16:03

He's not saying we shouldn't have killed him

He's saying that the way Trump reported the death will only incite anger among those extremists who call themselves ISIS fighters. More than if he was given a boring, short description of death. Which is a fair point.

Same reason why it's inappropriate for Trump to share images of violence against reporters. Sure, most trump supporters aren't violent in the slightest. However, some crazy individuals might see that as a call to arms
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Post by Lex Tue 29 Oct 2019, 16:17

Because your average ISIL insurgent is a cool, calm and collected individual who hasn't been brainwashed to detest everything about the west anyway. Sorry, but this is a hard reach here
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Post by Unique Tue 29 Oct 2019, 17:01

Lex wrote:Because your average ISIL insurgent is a cool, calm and collected individual who hasn't been brainwashed to detest everything about the west anyway. Sorry, but this is a hard reach here
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Post by McLewis Tue 29 Oct 2019, 20:37

Well that's the thing though....many ISIS fighters, especially the ones committing terror attacks on soft targets here and in Europe, are indeed calm, cool and collected. Being radicalized does not mean they're all raging, loud and belligerent. I believe that to be a stereotype perpetuated by the media through TV shows and movies.

Following the logic at play that somehow these guys can't possibly be quiet, calm individuals, the 9/11 hijackers would've been caught rather quickly and the whole attack averted. I truly wish they were the way those of you on the right-wing of this topic seem to characterize them. They become far easier targets for our military to take out.
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Post by Lex Tue 29 Oct 2019, 23:11

My point is people willing to sacrifice their lives to carry out attacks in the west don't need a trigger or an incentive to do so. It's their ultimate end game anyway, regardless of who says or does what.
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Post by Young Kaz Fri 01 Nov 2019, 00:42

There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).

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Post by Unique Fri 01 Nov 2019, 13:32

Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).
Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).
man are you for real.
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Post by Young Kaz Fri 01 Nov 2019, 16:13

Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).
Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).
man are you for real.


Look up the kid if you dont believe.


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Post by Unique Fri 01 Nov 2019, 17:28

Young Kaz wrote:
Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).
Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).
man are you for real.


Look up the kid if you dont believe.

without knowing the facts you immediately jumped to the conclusion that there is 0% chance that a ISIS terrorist would kill children but your own country and soldiers would go out and murder kids. you are a fucking joke mate. you dont deserve that nice little life you have in america that the highly trained and very professional US military provides for you. people like you are the reason that people like trump gets to be president.
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Post by Myesyats Fri 01 Nov 2019, 21:24

Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).

So one drone strike is proof Americans kill every brown kid in their way but Isis and Al qaeda soldiers bred to assasinate and chopping heads off on video is 0% proof? Interesting twist
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Post by Freeza Fri 01 Nov 2019, 21:44

Chelsea Manning leaked plenty videos of American soldiers killing innocents.

It’s not exactly a wild claim overall. Know nothing about this specific case though
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Post by Unique Fri 01 Nov 2019, 21:57

Myesyats wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:There is 0% chance that Baghdadi killed his kids. We most certainly killed them. kids arent sacred to our military, and especially some brown kids.

We killed an American citizen kid in Yemen, just because we didnt like his dad(Al-Awlaki).

So one drone strike is proof Americans kill every brown kid in their way but Isis and Al qaeda soldiers bred to assasinate and chopping heads off on video is 0% proof? Interesting twist
he yaps on about how the american people are a bunch of racists and has a military that murders kids yet he loves cashing his big pay checks he gets in america while he sits back in his nice little house. he has to be trolling ffs. he cant be real.
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Post by Myesyats Fri 01 Nov 2019, 22:22

Eleven children were escorted out of Baghdadi's compound. The forces didnt just kill everybody in sight.

Be grateful somebody is actually risking their lives to fight ISIS.
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Post by Young Kaz Fri 01 Nov 2019, 23:01

Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:
Unique wrote: man are you for real.


Look up the kid if you dont believe.

without knowing the facts you immediately jumped to the conclusion that there is 0% chance that a ISIS terrorist would kill children but your own country and soldiers would go out and murder kids. you are a fucking joke mate. you dont deserve that nice little life you have in america that the highly trained and very professional US military provides for you. people like you are the reason that people like trump gets to be president.


The biggest joke is a middle aged man whining that less than 2% of his population in African immigrants are the reason his national healthcare is screwed.

If you spent a fraction of the time you spend whining about Asians or Africans on actually improving your lot in life you could afford healthcare for your family outright without waiting on the welfare from the government

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The miserable little life you have, funded by the exploitation of indigenous people worldwide, is EXACTLY the life you deserve.

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Post by Young Kaz Fri 01 Nov 2019, 23:17

And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile

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Post by CBarca Fri 01 Nov 2019, 23:47

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Post by Unique Sat 02 Nov 2019, 00:10

Young Kaz wrote:And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile
:facepalm: :facepalm: them little crusades across this planet you talk about provides you with the freedom to make them $$$$ you have. you could go to japan your other country but when it comes to killing babys and raping expectant mothers they were the ones who put that shit on the map so you might not be happy there. just say thank you to the american people for taking your family in and giving you your good life and $$ instead of calling them racist country bumkins. just say thank you to the brave men and women of the US military for providing you with a free country to have a good life and make them $$$ instead of calling them baby killers. the american lads on here must look at the shit you type about there great country and think wow. if someone like you said that shit to me in my country i would slap the shit out of them. you come on here some days saying you love america ( pay day im thinking ) but people can see though that bullshit. what you should do is go into a bar that has a few marines hanging out and tell them what you tell us about america.
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Post by Unique Sat 02 Nov 2019, 00:28

Young Kaz wrote:And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile
so what your saying is you are helping to fund a crusade to murder children and then you come on here crying about the poor children that are being murdered but you will continue funding murder because it puts money in your pocket. that about sums you up mate. Thumbs up
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Post by Young Kaz Sat 02 Nov 2019, 01:44

Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile
:facepalm: :facepalm: them little crusades across this planet you talk about provides you with the freedom to make them $$$$ you have. you could go to japan your other country but when it comes to killing babys and raping expectant mothers they were the ones who put that shit on the map so you might not be happy there. just say thank you to the american people for taking your family in and giving you your good life and $$ instead of calling them racist country bumkins. just say thank you to the brave men and women of the US military for providing you with a free country to have a good life and make them $$$ instead of calling them baby killers. the american lads on here must look at the shit you type about there great country and think wow. if someone like you said that shit to me in my country i would slap the shit out of them. you come on here some days saying you love america ( pay day im thinking ) but people can see though that bullshit. what you should do is go into a bar that has a few marines hanging out and tell them what you tell us about america.



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I really doubt the bold.

Also my fathers brother was in the service for 20 years, and served this nation in West Germany(You're welcome btw) and also in Project Desert Storm. WE are the American people.

Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile
so what your saying is you are helping to fund a crusade to murder children and then you come on here crying about the poor children that are being murdered but you will continue funding murder because it puts money in your pocket. that about sums you up mate. Thumbs up


Yes I fund the crusade, and YES I will complain about where my money goes. Its called being a man. I pay into the society in which I live, not sit around and whine about Africans using the services I pay for.

I pay to keep you safe. Remember that when you speak ill about the money I have worked to make.

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To Unique, it's impossible to be both American and proud of your cultural heritage/have a lived experience of that culture in America
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Post by Unique Sat 02 Nov 2019, 02:41

Young Kaz wrote:
Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile
:facepalm: :facepalm: them little crusades across this planet you talk about provides you with the freedom to make them $$$$ you have. you could go to japan your other country but when it comes to killing babys and raping expectant mothers they were the ones who put that shit on the map so you might not be happy there. just say thank you to the american people for taking your family in and giving you your good life and $$ instead of calling them racist country bumkins. just say thank you to the brave men and women of the US military for providing you with a free country to have a good life and make them $$$ instead of calling them baby killers. the american lads on here must look at the shit you type about there great country and think wow. if someone like you said that shit to me in my country i would slap the shit out of them. you come on here some days saying you love america ( pay day im thinking ) but people can see though that bullshit. what you should do is go into a bar that has a few marines hanging out and tell them what you tell us about america.



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I really doubt the bold.

Also my fathers brother was in the service for 20 years, and served this nation in West Germany(You're welcome btw) and also in Project Desert Storm.  WE are the American people.

Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:And funny enough the point is missed.

The American military is NOT above murdering children(including American) for no reason other than a perceived slight.

People act so hurt when i talk about this country is the best on earth, yet will suck the proverbial nut off the military when the truth presents itself. Read a book people, or in fact dont I'll tell you exactly how it is:

MY dollars are the one who funds their little crusades across this planet so I will speak of them as I god damn please.

In fact, I hate to come at you all like you owe me, but it isnt lost on me whose money is funding the welfare state that many of you live in now. Easy to drop entitlements on unproductive populations when you know its my tax dollars, funding the world police, which makes it unnecessary for you to do the same.

In fact Unique you should wake up every morning and, after giving thanks to buddha for letting you see another day, give thanks to the Industrious American worker because we can go line by line about how this one demographic has given you the life you live today the same way the industrious South Asian worker on the subcontinent and Ceylon gave your forefathers the life they enjoyed in London.....But some truths really are too painful to speak about eh? Smile
so what your saying is you are helping to fund a crusade to murder children and then you come on here crying about the poor children that are being murdered but you will continue funding murder because it puts money in your pocket. that about sums you up mate. Thumbs up


Yes I fund the crusade, and YES I will complain about where my money goes. Its called being a man. I pay into the society in which I live, not sit around and whine about Africans using the services I pay for.

I pay to keep you safe. Remember that when you speak ill about the money I have worked to make.
you dont pay to keep me safe. i pay to keep me safe. what the fuck are you talking about dude. america the country that took your family in and gave them a great life keep you safe ffs. and dont moan about what your money goes on be a man and not give your money to child killers. you have the chance right now to stop funding the child killers by moving out of america but you wont. you will bitch about it but take the money like most people. your convictions will only go as far as your pay check. and dont tell me im wellcome for your uncle sarving in west germany when over a million brits died in ww2. they are the people i give thanks for. also i give thanks to our american brothers that helped the brits in lots of wars to keep our people free and give us a good life and i have never even stepped foot in america but you who have been given a great life for the sacrifice they have made just call them child killers. you are a joke mate.
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Post by Unique Sat 02 Nov 2019, 02:47

CBarca wrote:To Unique, it's impossible to be both American and proud of your cultural heritage/have a lived experience of that culture in America
no its not mate. the country you live in and the life you have is given to you by others. how the fuck are you gonna read that shit from betty and not get mad. your county took his family in you gave them a great life and he just shits on your country and your people. its not bad enough he is not thankful to america the guy just shits on you all the time. at least one of you americans should say hold up mate you have it good here. how can people not get mad when you take in imigrants and give them a great life and they shit on you. Shocked
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Post by Young Kaz Sat 02 Nov 2019, 02:50

Unique wrote:
Young Kaz wrote:
Unique wrote:
:facepalm: :facepalm: them little crusades across this planet you talk about provides you with the freedom to make them $$$$ you have. you could go to japan your other country but when it comes to killing babys and raping expectant mothers they were the ones who put that shit on the map so you might not be happy there. just say thank you to the american people for taking your family in and giving you your good life and $$ instead of calling them racist country bumkins. just say thank you to the brave men and women of the US military for providing you with a free country to have a good life and make them $$$ instead of calling them baby killers. the american lads on here must look at the shit you type about there great country and think wow. if someone like you said that shit to me in my country i would slap the shit out of them. you come on here some days saying you love america ( pay day im thinking ) but people can see though that bullshit. what you should do is go into a bar that has a few marines hanging out and tell them what you tell us about america.



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I really doubt the bold.

Also my fathers brother was in the service for 20 years, and served this nation in West Germany(You're welcome btw) and also in Project Desert Storm.  WE are the American people.

Unique wrote:
so what your saying is you are helping to fund a crusade to murder children and then you come on here crying about the poor children that are being murdered but you will continue funding murder because it puts money in your pocket. that about sums you up mate. Thumbs up


Yes I fund the crusade, and YES I will complain about where my money goes. Its called being a man. I pay into the society in which I live, not sit around and whine about Africans using the services I pay for.

I pay to keep you safe. Remember that when you speak ill about the money I have worked to make.
you dont pay to keep me safe. i pay to keep me safe. what the fuck are you talking about dude. america the country that took your family in and gave them a great life keep you safe ffs. and dont moan about what your money goes on be a man and not give your money to child killers. you have the chance right now to stop funding the child killers by moving out of america but you wont. you will bitch about it but take the money like most people. your convictions will only go as far as your pay check. and dont tell me im wellcome for your uncle sarving in west germany when over a million brits died in ww2. they are the people i give thanks for. also i give thanks to our american brothers that helped the brits in lots of wars to keep our people free and give us a good life and i have never even stepped foot in america but you who have been given a great life for the sacrifice they have made just call them child killers. you are a joke mate.


I pay to keep you safe because my dollars go to the world police that keep you safe, that funded this thing we are talking to each other right now, that armed and fed your country when it "wasnt going well" through two world wars...so yes, I keep you safe, and yes my money goes to child murderers. You're welcome. How about some gratitude.

The very man in your avatar came out the great American womb.

All we have given you and you turn up your nose on giving healthcare to African children? After robbing India blind? Thats the real joke. How about you pay it forward.

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