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Post by Kick on Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:39 am

I doubt We'll sell Giroud to Spurs over Inter. There is bad blood between us and Spurs so it'll take a lot for us to sell to them.

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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:49 am

@Kick wrote:I doubt We'll sell Giroud to Spurs over Inter. There is bad blood between us and Spurs so it'll take a lot for us to sell to them.

That's sure.
You prefer Inter over Spurs , despite bad relationship Chelsea board / Conte (after his  sack).
Romano also said that Chelsea is not still convinced to give it to Spurs.

but that's a problem : Inter don't want to sign him anymore . Probably we' re going to retreat from race. We can't give other money after Eriksen etc , it's easier we change system if we have problems about CF.
I dislike this because Giroud was a very good name, and tbh I feel we are having  bad behaviour towards him. Basically he 's waited us for so much time...

So if Inter retreats from race , as it seems, Chelsea might give really to Spurs because they must get rid of him ( soon free agent too). Of course me and you hope for not.
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Post by Kick on Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:15 am

We have to need to sell. We're much better off holding on to him for the remainder of his contract than selling him to a direct rival for a minimal fee.

The CL money is worth more than getting money out of Giroud.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:38 am



Very obvious that Barca was not interested in that clown, Man Yoo got played like noobs. Mendes has been trying to sell Bruno to all european big clubs for months now, only United were desperate enough to bite, in the last days of a january transfer window.

LOL

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:20 am

If he doesn’t prove to at least be decently good, then this will be yet another expensive transfer flop for them. It’s getting beyond silly at this point. I mean, they really are in desperate need of players, but they need to at least do proper scouting before paying such massive sums. Especially, considering how many times they’ve fucked it up over the past decade.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:04 am

can't imagine he'll be that bad, he's scored an awful lot of goals from midfield in the last couple of seasons, like 40 goals, and 30 assists ffs. That is really a lot, crazy amount of goals tbh, no matter what mitigating circumstances there are (but.. but.. the league is poor, but.. he takes so many shots.., but.. penalites -Utd get loads of penalties btw-,... he loses the ball..)

And he's competing for the spot with Jesse Lingard who's had exactly zero assists and scored one single goal in the last 12 months, and that was against a 3rd division side.

So I think congratulations are in order to @Firenze in any case. This is a monumental upgrade for their AM.

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Post by Kaladin on Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:58 am

Florenzi to Valencia (@DiMarzio)

umm what the fuck? @McLewis

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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:23 pm

Florenzi is crap and Fonseca is courageous manager because no problems to make unpopular decisions.
He'd have retired Totti before Spalletti Laughing
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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:

Very obvious that Barca was not interested in that clown, Man Yoo got played like noobs. Mendes has been trying to sell Bruno to all european big clubs for months now, only United were desperate enough to bite, in the last days of a january transfer window.

LOL


you seem jelly

we got him for 45m for one of the best midfielders of the last decade that's a bargain son

if he hits the other bonus add-ons, money well spent
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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:45 pm

(Need to update it soon tbh)

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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:31 pm

What the hell is happening



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Post by S on Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:59 pm

@Kaladin wrote:Florenzi to Valencia (@DiMarzio)

umm what the fuck? @McLewis

Roma fans seem pretty ecstatic to get rid of him.
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Post by Arquitecto on Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:45 pm

Roma fans have to be amongst the dumbest in Italia.

Example is this where Florenzi gets stick for being underwhelming for a position that NEVER was meant to be his, but shoehorned by a coach who needed him as a fullback for his versatility.


Sadly, that trend continued ever since because Florenzi, being the sacrificial loyalist he is, stuck to that. Of course he will not perform given he is a midfielder by trade.

Clowns.

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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:14 pm

for me they are right about Florenzi

I rated him during his first period, I feel sure to have opened a Alessandro Florenzi appreciation thread here..

but he's stopped to be relevant after his second tragic injury. Not just irrelevant but often harmful

A fullback who can't defend, useless if you move him as winger, he could have a good future as midfield but he's lost strenght after those injuries

Loan on Valencia is good for him because Mancini still rated him and he was going to risk to miss Euro2020
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Post by McLewis on Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:29 pm

@Kaladin wrote:Florenzi to Valencia (@DiMarzio)

umm what the fuck? @McLewis

Well it's a dry loan for 6 months so we'll get him back in the summer unless Valencia see something in him and want to re-negotiate. Ultimately, it's probably the best decision for him as he's just not in Fonseca's plans, who prefers Santon over him at RB.

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@Kaladin wrote:Florenzi to Valencia (@DiMarzio)

umm what the fuck? @McLewis

Roma fans seem pretty ecstatic to get rid of him.

I'm not one of them. I have strong feelings about how he's leaving. The conversion to RB was a mistake and it ruined his career. Had he stayed a winger/midfielder, I think he would've been much more useful.

@Arquitecto wrote:Roma fans have to be amongst the dumbest in Italia.

Example is this where Florenzi gets stick for being underwhelming for a position that NEVER was meant to be his, but shoehorned by a coach who needed him as a fullback for his versatility.


Sadly, that trend continued ever since because Florenzi, being the sacrificial loyalist he is, stuck to that. Of course he will not perform given he is a midfielder by trade.

Clowns.

THIS.

I have been arguing with other Romanisti for the better part of 24 hours about Florenzi, defending him and the fact that he got shoehorned into a position that, at best, he's an emergency option at. He never should've been a permanent RB. It ruined his career in ways the ACL tear never could.

Lots of tifosi are angry because his performances have been subpar yet he sits on a 3.5m a year salary. So there's the feeling that he's overpaid, but underperforming. They're right in that regard. What were the alternatives though? Roma didn't have to give him that salary. They could've called his bluff. They didn't. And yet he gets all the blame and club do not. That pisses me off.

@Robespierre wrote:for me they are right about Florenzi

I rated him during his first period, I feel sure to have opened a Alessandro Florenzi appreciation thread here..

but he's stopped  to be relevant after his second tragic injury. Not just irrelevant but often harmful

A fullback who can't defend, useless if you move him as winger, he could have a good future as midfield but he's lost strenght after those injuries

Loan on Valencia is good for him because Mancini still rated him and he was going to risk to miss Euro2020

Agreed on all points. Like I said in my response to Arq, the combo of the ACL tear and the move to RB absolutely destroyed his momentum career-wise and his potential. The ACL tear was probably inevitable, but give me Florenzi as a midfielder/winger trying to recover from that injury in a position he knows a lot better than what we've seen so far of him at RB. He never had a real chance honestly and that famous Roman fickleness made sure of it. Romanisti are guilty are turning on players way too easily and quickly and it seems the more intertwined one is with this club, the more brutal the fans are when they don't live up to expectations.

I hope he kills it in La Liga and Valencia keep him for his own sanity so he can just play football in peace.
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Post by S on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:43 pm

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Post by Arquitecto on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:47 pm

I used to be more romantic in my viewing and ideals of football and staunch in ideas of loyalty and all those fictitious tangibles that I still do respect and denying them would be useless given they remain in GL records beginning from 2011 or before.

But a footballer only has 15 if not less years to ply his trade and cement his legacy as I have always said one of the saddest things in my opinion is ending up playing an average journeyman career.

So in essence, I get why Florenzi is so loyal to Roma and such a yes man in his sacrifice but it legitimately had each and every coach take advantage of him since his turn to fullback. Whilst that earns the respect of his coach, team and followers, clearly it backfired on him once the Romanisti somehow managed to forget he was an up and coming midfielder with some superbly complete traits. Hell, even for the FIFA crowd here he is for me the best player to use for Roma he is so complete.


The players I do notice rise to the top individually are definitely the more individualist ones who are finicky about their position and desirable roles and are made exceptions by coaches. Notably Zlatan, CR, Pirlo, Totti, and even lesser known stars. Some are not deserving of course for they do not deserve that freedom given they are just not good enough to warrant that.


But I do wonder how Florenzi would have turned out of he did take a stand and be reduced back to what he actually is.

Hopefully Celades knows of who may be coming to Valencia and is not the 56th coach in a row using him as the same as the results will not be any better given the generally less cohesive defences of La Liga teams.

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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:50 pm

[Rob Dawson, ESPN] : Manchester United have enquired about signing Ivan Rakitić from Barcelona, who is available for €20 million.
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Post by iftikhar on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:53 pm

You write so beautifully @Arquitecto :bow:
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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:54 pm

Martial Rashford
Fernandes
Pogba Mctominay Rakitic
Shaw Maguire Lindelof AWB
DDG
Bench: Fred, Matic, Greenwood, Mata, Romero, Jones, Dalot

should look at selling in the summer: Martial, Lingard, Sanchez, Smalling, Bailly, Pereira, Matic, Rojo

pick up a new CF, ideally we need one now
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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:56 pm

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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:57 pm



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Post by Robespierre on Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:05 pm

@Firenze wrote:


Expected
The man loves Napoli as city and club
He ' d extend his contract but De Laurentiis wants revolution
If he is not homesick (as It was Nainggolan for Roma under us, one of reasons why he had underperformed at Inter) It Is great addition as free agent

He'd be the replacrment for Sanchez because zero chances to keep Sanchez, he'll come back from you and I suppose you'll throw on same circle as MLS

I love Lukaku, he is one of out difference maker but not even Serie A atmosphere can revive Sanchez .
Played few matches, injured for 3 months but enough to realize he is done imo
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Post by S on Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:15 pm

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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:21 pm

seems legit
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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:25 pm

what the fuck

it actually is legit?

LMAO @myesyats

this is absolute banter

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