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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:21 pm

@Nishankly wrote:Tough luck but absolutely amazing how we completely changed the game around in 45 mins. Firmino and Salah still look sharp. Great stuff.

Anyways congrats City.


It's almost like you were overreacting and you weren't ever going to be run over hmm

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Post by Firenze on Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:23 pm

only Loserpool fans could win the CL 3 months ago and be back in their old pessimistic self loathing ways

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Post by El Gunner on Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:37 pm

@Firenze wrote:only Loserpool fans could win the CL 3 months ago and be back in their old pessimistic self loathing ways


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Post by Nishankly on Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:27 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:Tough luck but absolutely amazing how we completely changed the game around in 45 mins. Firmino and Salah still look sharp. Great stuff.

Anyways congrats City.


It's almost like you were overreacting and you weren't ever going to be run over hmm


No one asked u ffs
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Post by Firenze on Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:06 pm

Here's how I would line up next season if we get nobody else in

Rashford
Martial Sanchez Lingard
Pogba Mctominay
Shaw Maguire Lindelof Bissaka
DDG

still think we'll sell Lukaku, maybe to Inter and get in someone naff like Longstaff though

and yes Sanchez is pretty gash but better than starting Daniel James or Fred
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:55 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:Tough luck but absolutely amazing how we completely changed the game around in 45 mins. Firmino and Salah still look sharp. Great stuff.

Anyways congrats City.


It's almost like you were overreacting and you weren't ever going to be run over hmm


Laughing

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Post by Sina on Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:58 pm

Every £20m+ signing ever made by a Premier League club

https://www.football365.com/news/every-20m-signing-ever-made-by-a-premier-league-club-3?utm_source=Bibblio-F365-RHC

throw in Maguire and Kean as well

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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:22 am

Any of you guys got a subscription to The Athletic? They've launched their football section and it's all interesting stuff, including behind the scenes info on transfers. There's a free trial if you wanna just read what's there and back out.

I won't paste the article here, because it's unethical and all, but there's a piece on there about how Ed Woodward was quoted £80m for Maguire in May, waited to see if the fee would go down... and then paid £80m for Maguire in August. Laughing All that time wasted only to end up paying what Leicester wanted.

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Post by Firenze on Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:41 am

May sign up for a free trial. I've bene hearing some good stuff about their articles the last day or so. I'm just conditioned that everything should be free on the internet so ain't nobody got time for subscriptions.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:41 am

I've had it for over a year due to NBA stuff, if their football stuff is half as good then it's worth every penny.
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Post by zigra on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:48 am

Worthless junk just like all sports journalism. Wouldn't even read it if you payed me for it.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:54 am

@zigra wrote:Worthless junk just like all sports journalism. Wouldn't even read it if you payed me for it.


You clearly only have read football journalism lol.

Their NBA articles are the complete opposite of worthless junk.
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Post by zigra on Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:59 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@zigra wrote:Worthless junk just like all sports journalism. Wouldn't even read it if you payed me for it.


You clearly only have read football journalism lol.

Their NBA articles are the complete opposite of worthless junk.


Nah. It's not the quality, it's the topic. Like how could a football article be anything but   worthless junk?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Well we don't know, but the Athletic standard for quality is much higher than what you usually see.

All I'm saying is if that standard is half as high as it is for other sports then it's worth it.
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:23 pm

lol just another way in which a corporate structure is trying to make money. Miss me with that

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:00 pm

To me this sounds like craft beer

trying to turn something fancy that isn't meant to be fancy, and the product doesn't taste better either

Also absolutely hate the name

would trial subscribe if the name wasn't so off putting

"The Athletic"

The Athletic what?!

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:05 pm

Also, when it comes to football I am staunchly Anti-American

sorry folks

I don't trust you with my sports

arrest your wall street criminals first before you arrest my FIFA representative

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:15 pm

Lol i don't think any of the football writers are American.

It's only the company which is American.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:17 pm

@El Gunner wrote:lol just another way in which a corporate structure is trying to make money. Miss me with that


Of course they're trying to make money lol.

If a writer releases extensive articles on a subject which took actual work they should be paid for it.

I really don't understand this attitude, it's not how the world works.
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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:18 pm

If it’s behind a paywall, I don’t care for it.
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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:20 pm

It's sub based so it doesn't have to rely on ads.

That's better for journalism because ad revenue is dependent on clicks, which drives shallower but more "attention grabbing" content.

You won't get subs with clickbait. You sub on the idea that what you're getting is higher quality than the average stuff, and from what I've read so far, it's not a bad deal. Pretty much any half-decent journalism these days is behind a paywall because the best publications don't want to be associated with clickbait nonsense.

They have UK based writers for football. They've been aggressively bringing people in, like Amy Lawrence, David Ornstein, Michael Cox, James Pearce, even Honigstein for German coverage.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:26 pm

Did you read the Sam Lee and Michael Cox article on City's defence Jay?

I found that really interesting.
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:59 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@El Gunner wrote:lol just another way in which a corporate structure is trying to make money. Miss me with that


Of course they're trying to make money lol.

If a writer releases extensive articles on a subject which took actual work they should be paid for it.

I really don't understand this attitude, it's not how the world works.


It's not a should really. It needn't be.

Anyway, I don't care for how and why they do it and go about it overall as much as what I gain out of it at the end.

What are they so specially writing on that I can't see for myself on the pitch or learn over the internet over time.

Their work is going to be quoted and paraphrased by many other writers anyway.

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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:28 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Did you read the Sam Lee and Michael Cox article on City's defence Jay?

I found that really interesting.

Yeah, just read it. Shows that Pep is a far more adaptable coach than he's usually given credit for.

Also shows that it's not something that can be replicated throughout the league, because finding players who are creative yet also super hard-working is tough. Even Liverpool's midfield is more industrious than creative.

It's funny, when you think about it. Pep's teams sparked this movement towards more attacking set-ups, more emphasis on possession and creativity etc, but at the moment the successful teams are the ones with the hardest workers and best defences.

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Post by El Gunner on Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:41 pm

Ahhh.. look at the two The Athletic snobs pulling themselves aside from the rest of us.

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(: You two can be our paraphrasers for those top notch articles that they write over there

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:42 pm

@El Gunner wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@El Gunner wrote:lol just another way in which a corporate structure is trying to make money. Miss me with that


Of course they're trying to make money lol.

If a writer releases extensive articles on a subject which took actual work they should be paid for it.

I really don't understand this attitude, it's not how the world works.
It's not a should really. It needn't be.

Right.....

Just like how Musicians should have their music downloaded for free etc etc.

People have got free stuff illegally for so long they've lost all concept of reality. If any professional works hard on something that people use they should be paid for it.

You'll likely realize this one day if you ever make something which people use and exploit it without compensating you.
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