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Post by El Gunner Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:26 pm

yes pls

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Post by Sina Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:57 pm

Ben white's best qualty is his technical ability and passing
He will improve our build up a lot
But i dont rate him defensively
He just dives in to challenges and isnt anything special physically in terms of pace/power/aerial ability

Much like Onana emphasis seems to be on technical abilty than special skillset for the role GK/CB
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Post by Sina Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:52 pm

Finally a transfer rumour that i like


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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:07 pm

Definitely didn't see that coming. 60m though?
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Post by El Gunner Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:12 pm

well if we're gunna blow 40+ on Ben White than this seems in order too Laughing English player tax is disgusting
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:06 pm

Tierney about to sign a new five year contract. £110k p/w wages.

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Post by El Gunner Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:52 pm

good, future club captain if he can stay fit
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Post by mani88 Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:48 pm

Neco williams. Right back. Home grown. Decent. Cheap. Emergency Left back. No reason we should not try.


Feels like Thanos happened here...... Time stamps are all messed up (for me atleast).
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:52 pm

Don't think Liverpool will sell him.

I would love dumfries but his value has probably gone 50% up
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:06 pm

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Post by Jay29 Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:25 pm

It's a lotta cash so I can only assume he's very highly thought of. More so than Saliba is, apparently.

Lokonga is close too, apparently.

Still need a right back, left back, one more midfielder, and an AM.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:39 pm

So you sell Mavropanos for 3m and buy White for 60m Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:42 pm

@Jay29 wrote:It's a lotta cash so I can only assume he's very highly thought of. More so than Saliba is, apparently.

Lokonga is close too, apparently.

Still need a right back, left back, one more midfielder, and an AM.


And a ST
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Post by Jay29 Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pm

In all seriousness re: White.

White excels as an aggressive defender playing in high defensive lines stepping out to make interceptions. This, along with his passing and ability to bring the ball out of defence, made him a valuable player for Leeds in their promotion season. Bielsa loved him and he was one of the best players in the Championship that season.

His role at Brighton, as a right centre back in a three, was slightly different.

Arsenal want to play a high block against the ball and to do that they need defenders like White. Gabriel was already one half of this equation, now it seems we're getting the second half. Holding and Mari are different types, excelling more in the penalty area when they can block shots and compete in the air. There were times last season when both of them where reluctant to step-up which hurt our ability to win the ball back in higher parts of the pitch.

The concern will be, both White and Gabriel are young defenders (both 23) and a similar type. Two aggressive centre backs could lead to problems if both go at the same time. Aerially it's not the strongest partnership, either. Aerial duels are a weakness for White and Gabriel, while strong in the air, isn't the tallest.

So while the price is outrageous, I see the logic behind the transfer.

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Post by Sina Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:39 pm

Hopefully it means the first XI CM that we sign is someone who has the qualities to push up to play between the lines in possession(whilst still doing good job off the ball/defensively) and not another behind the ball midfielder

Partey is already there as a midfielder to drop back and help and Ben White addition improves our early build up quite a lot
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:44 pm

@Jay29 wrote:In all seriousness re: White.

White excels as an aggressive defender playing in high defensive lines stepping out to make interceptions. This, along with his passing and ability to bring the ball out of defence, made him a valuable player for Leeds in their promotion season. Bielsa loved him and he was one of the best players in the Championship that season.

His role at Brighton, as a right centre back in a three, was slightly different.

Arsenal want to play a high block against the ball and to do that they need defenders like White. Gabriel was already one half of this equation, now it seems we're getting the second half. Holding and Mari are different types, excelling more in the penalty area when they can block shots and compete in the air. There were times last season when both of them where reluctant to step-up which hurt our ability to win the ball back in higher parts of the pitch.

The concern will be, both White and Gabriel are young defenders (both 23) and a similar type. Two aggressive centre backs could lead to problems if both go at the same time. Aerially it's not the strongest partnership, either. Aerial duels are a weakness for White and Gabriel, while strong in the air, isn't the tallest.

So while the price is outrageous, I see the logic behind the transfer.


Ahh. Imagine having two Vermaelens.

I actually really like this transfer. But it seems like we are most definitely going to be playing 3 at the back because White-Gabriel doesn't seem ideal. Holding-White could work. I wonder if that is Arteta's intention if he is to play 4-3-3 because he seemed to bench Gabriel a lot towards the end of last season. Even preferred Mari over him.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:18 am

"Arteta's intention" :facepalm:
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Post by mani88 Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:59 pm

Its time to utilize our Monreal transfer and get Isak from Sociedad.
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Post by Jay29 Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:41 am

50m for White, 70m for Isak, 80m for Maddison, 40m for Neves and then 20p for a right back.

Looks like my Football Manager shortlist. Every deal paid over 48 month instalments, of course.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:49 pm

Not feeling Maddison tbh.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:09 pm



No idea who this kristoff terror guy is but he has been quite confident of Lokonga to Arsenal.

Bellerin heavily linked to Villarreal, Inter Milan and Juventus today. Looks like he is definitely gone.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:19 pm

i read the Xhaka deal is falling through? :facepalm:
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:55 pm

nah there was something positive this morning about it. He is gone pretty much
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Post by Eman Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:03 pm

Maddison pretty much didn’t score or assist for the entire back half of the season for Leicester as they blew their top 4 finish. Ben White is joining us from a team that had a worse defensive record than we did last season. Perhaps they fit the bill of the type of player we’d like to have, but for these transfer fees, it’s absurd that we are even contemplating going in for these guys, who are still only prospects. If we can’t find better options or cheaper ones of similar quality, it just proves that our scouting team is terrible. It is positive to see that we’re willing to spend some money but with the people we have running this club, I don’t trust us to make that money go very far
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Post by Jay29 Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:53 pm

Ben White is joining us from a team that had a worse defensive record than we did last season.

I agree the price is too much but this means very little. White is not solely responsible for Brighton's defence.

Also, looking at pure goals conceded doesn't give you a complete picture of a team's defensive record. Brighton's xGA last season was 39.91 while Arsenal's was 43.23. So last season they gave up fewer high quality chances than Arsenal did.

https://understat.com/league/EPL


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Post by mani88 Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:55 am

Although I do remember Renato sanches passing the ball to a bull on the side hoardings but yesterday he was a completely different beast. This Renato sanches would be an upgrade over all of our midfield options as of now.
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