Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

[El Gunner]

yes pls

[Sina]

Ben white's best qualty is his technical ability and passing
He will improve our build up a lot
But i dont rate him defensively
He just dives in to challenges and isnt anything special physically in terms of pace/power/aerial ability

Much like Onana emphasis seems to be on technical abilty than special skillset for the role GK/CB

[Sina]

Finally a transfer rumour that i like

Arsenal are considering a move for James Maddison.

As @AdrianJKajumba & others have reported, fee would be in excess of £60m.

Those close to the player claim he's 'top of the list' for #AFC this summer.https://t.co/K9s3496CbM https://t.co/wOcTmrvOBR

— Chris Wheatley (@ChrisWheatley_) June 16, 2021

[RealGunner]

Definitely didn't see that coming. 60m though?

[El Gunner]

well if we're gunna blow 40+ on Ben White than this seems in order too English player tax is disgusting

[Jay29]

Tierney about to sign a new five year contract. £110k p/w wages.

[El Gunner]

good, future club captain if he can stay fit

[mani88]

Neco williams. Right back. Home grown. Decent. Cheap. Emergency Left back. No reason we should not try.


Feels like Thanos happened here...... Time stamps are all messed up (for me atleast).

[RealGunner]

Don't think Liverpool will sell him.

I would love dumfries but his value has probably gone 50% up

[RealGunner]

Arsenal moving closer to agreement with Brighton for Ben White. #BHAFC want guaranteed ~£50m, #AFC offering ~£45m + £5m. Face-to-face talks have taken place & negotiations continue over add-ons, payment structure etc. No other bidders yet @TheAthleticUK https://t.co/x9fJEUSMZ3

— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) June 24, 2021

[Jay29]

It's a lotta cash so I can only assume he's very highly thought of. More so than Saliba is, apparently.

Lokonga is close too, apparently.

Still need a right back, left back, one more midfielder, and an AM.

[Hapless_Hans]

So you sell Mavropanos for 3m and buy White for 60m

[RealGunner]

It's a lotta cash so I can only assume he's very highly thought of. More so than Saliba is, apparently.

Lokonga is close too, apparently.

Still need a right back, left back, one more midfielder, and an AM.

And a ST

[Jay29]

In all seriousness re: White.

White excels as an aggressive defender playing in high defensive lines stepping out to make interceptions. This, along with his passing and ability to bring the ball out of defence, made him a valuable player for Leeds in their promotion season. Bielsa loved him and he was one of the best players in the Championship that season.

His role at Brighton, as a right centre back in a three, was slightly different.

Arsenal want to play a high block against the ball and to do that they need defenders like White. Gabriel was already one half of this equation, now it seems we're getting the second half. Holding and Mari are different types, excelling more in the penalty area when they can block shots and compete in the air. There were times last season when both of them where reluctant to step-up which hurt our ability to win the ball back in higher parts of the pitch.

The concern will be, both White and Gabriel are young defenders (both 23) and a similar type. Two aggressive centre backs could lead to problems if both go at the same time. Aerially it's not the strongest partnership, either. Aerial duels are a weakness for White and Gabriel, while strong in the air, isn't the tallest.

So while the price is outrageous, I see the logic behind the transfer.

[Sina]

Hopefully it means the first XI CM that we sign is someone who has the qualities to push up to play between the lines in possession(whilst still doing good job off the ball/defensively) and not another behind the ball midfielder

Partey is already there as a midfielder to drop back and help and Ben White addition improves our early build up quite a lot

[RealGunner]

In all seriousness re: White.

White excels as an aggressive defender playing in high defensive lines stepping out to make interceptions. This, along with his passing and ability to bring the ball out of defence, made him a valuable player for Leeds in their promotion season. Bielsa loved him and he was one of the best players in the Championship that season.

His role at Brighton, as a right centre back in a three, was slightly different.

Arsenal want to play a high block against the ball and to do that they need defenders like White. Gabriel was already one half of this equation, now it seems we're getting the second half. Holding and Mari are different types, excelling more in the penalty area when they can block shots and compete in the air. There were times last season when both of them where reluctant to step-up which hurt our ability to win the ball back in higher parts of the pitch.

The concern will be, both White and Gabriel are young defenders (both 23) and a similar type. Two aggressive centre backs could lead to problems if both go at the same time. Aerially it's not the strongest partnership, either. Aerial duels are a weakness for White and Gabriel, while strong in the air, isn't the tallest.

So while the price is outrageous, I see the logic behind the transfer.

Ahh. Imagine having two Vermaelens.

I actually really like this transfer. But it seems like we are most definitely going to be playing 3 at the back because White-Gabriel doesn't seem ideal. Holding-White could work. I wonder if that is Arteta's intention if he is to play 4-3-3 because he seemed to bench Gabriel a lot towards the end of last season. Even preferred Mari over him.

[Hapless_Hans]

"Arteta's intention"

[mani88]

Its time to utilize our Monreal transfer and get Isak from Sociedad.

[Jay29]

50m for White, 70m for Isak, 80m for Maddison, 40m for Neves and then 20p for a right back.

Looks like my Football Manager shortlist. Every deal paid over 48 month instalments, of course.

[RealGunner]

Not feeling Maddison tbh.

[RealGunner]

No. But they are working on a Lokonga replacement. Lokonga to Arsenal is just a matter of time.

— Kristof Terreur (@HLNinEngeland) June 27, 2021

No idea who this kristoff terror guy is but he has been quite confident of Lokonga to Arsenal.

Bellerin heavily linked to Villarreal, Inter Milan and Juventus today. Looks like he is definitely gone.

[El Gunner]

i read the Xhaka deal is falling through?

[RealGunner]

nah there was something positive this morning about it. He is gone pretty much

[Eman]

Maddison pretty much didn’t score or assist for the entire back half of the season for Leicester as they blew their top 4 finish. Ben White is joining us from a team that had a worse defensive record than we did last season. Perhaps they fit the bill of the type of player we’d like to have, but for these transfer fees, it’s absurd that we are even contemplating going in for these guys, who are still only prospects. If we can’t find better options or cheaper ones of similar quality, it just proves that our scouting team is terrible. It is positive to see that we’re willing to spend some money but with the people we have running this club, I don’t trust us to make that money go very far

[Jay29]

Ben White is joining us from a team that had a worse defensive record than we did last season.

I agree the price is too much but this means very little. White is not solely responsible for Brighton's defence.

Also, looking at pure goals conceded doesn't give you a complete picture of a team's defensive record. Brighton's xGA last season was 39.91 while Arsenal's was 43.23. So last season they gave up fewer high quality chances than Arsenal did.

https://understat.com/league/EPL

[mani88]

Although I do remember Renato sanches passing the ball to a bull on the side hoardings but yesterday he was a completely different beast. This Renato sanches would be an upgrade over all of our midfield options as of now.

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