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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:40 pm

Looks very likely we are getting neither of Aouar or Partey.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:46 pm

We really really should have bought Doucoure.
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Post by Jay29 Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:54 pm

Latest from France is Arsenal have failed to reach an agreement for Aouar and Lyon's deadline has passed.

Having two major targets and failing to get either while leaving us with zero time to go for alternatives would be shit business all round.

I sincerely hope progress has been made on the alternatives before now otherwise we're in trouble.


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Post by El Gunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:55 pm

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Post by mani88 Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:57 pm

No Aouar, No Partey
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Post by Jay29 Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:14 pm

We might end up with Jorginho on loan at this rate.

Can't wait for a Jorginho-Xhaka-Ceballos midfield where the ball goes forward three times a game.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:16 pm

@Jay29 wrote:We might end up with Jorginho on loan at this rate.

Can't wait for a Jorginho-Xhaka-Ceballos midfield where the ball goes forward three times a game.


Jesus fucking christ if we get Jorginho in when we could have bought HUNDREDS before him.

What a farce
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Post by Jay29 Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:30 pm

Tbh I'm watching James for Everton right now thinking we actually could have used him.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:34 pm

Well we do have...Ozil

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:35 pm

Happy for James, he looks to have exploded in the premier league under Carlo.
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:42 pm

I impulsively decided to make James captain of my fantasy team for this round Very Happy
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Post by mani88 Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:44 pm

I think its time we try for Buendia and Bissouma and get rejected by Norwich and BHA so that this tranfer window can end appropriately for us.

But really, Lyon has signed Paqueta and Athletico will have Torriera as replacements. If we want we can still sign both because Money talks. Going by the reports, both players have agreed personal terms. All we need is to give Aulas what he wants and activate Partəy Clause.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:46 pm

We are the only broke club in England by the sounds of it
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Post by El Gunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:17 pm

Kroenke the bitch
only cares about his profits
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Post by Jay29 Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:33 pm

Romano: OL board have stopped negotiations with Arsenal for Houssem Aouar. #AFC made clear they won’t pay €50m + add ons [€60m total] asked by Aulas and OL told to Arsenal that the deal is over. No Juventus, PSG or Real Madrid on last 2 days. Arsenal was the only chance.

Arsenal have never been “confident” today or on last few days just because Aulas always asked for €50m + add ons. #AFC last bid was around €38m + add ons. They were prepared to try again on next 48 hours but *not* for €50m + add ons. That’s why OL consider the talks off.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1312427649982234625

I have so many questions lol.

1) If we were never "confident" why did we spend so long negotiating? Why didn't we move on to other targets once it became apparent the price wouldn't come down?

2) If we don't have the money, why are we bothering?

3) If we do have the money, do we not realise this is our only chance to sign a talent like Aoaur? The big boys are gonna be all over him next summer.

I'm leaning towards the idea we don't have that kind of cash. In which case, this whole thing was a big waste of time. Foolish for spending so long chasing the deal and naive for thinking Lyon would lower their demands at the final hour.

Targeting talents such as Aoaur and Partey is good. I like that. It's the quality we need. BUT, these guys are pricey, cash is tight, and investing so much time in trying to get them is not smart business at this moment in time. This isn't a case where Arsenal can sign nobody and wait for the "right" player.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:41 pm

Another season of mediocrity.

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Post by Jay29 Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:47 pm

Arsenal sign Jorginho on loan so Chelsea can buy Partey.

Sure is a good thing there are no fans in the ground right now.

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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:51 pm

If that happens lmao

The ONLY midfielder in the entire Europe we could find as an alternative is Jorginho?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:10 pm

@RealGunner wrote:We are the only broke club in England by the sounds of it


tbf you were already broke before Covid, as opposed to the rest
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:11 pm

@RealGunner wrote:If that happens lmao

The ONLY midfielder in the entire Europe we could find as an alternative is Jorginho?

well we are signing Marc Roca from Espanyol for 9m €
no idea how good he is but I definitively prefer him to Jorginho...
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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:41 pm

Official - Arsenal sign Folarin Balogun from Arsenal U21s

https://arseblog.news/2020/10/balogun-becoming-increasingly-involved-in-first-team-training/?utm_campaign=autotwitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
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Post by AnJl Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:35 am

Its funny how Arsenal's management know that no proper signings will mean horrible backlash from the fans, which makes our insistence on being so cheap even more confusing. Josh has always come out and talked about taking the club forward, but I dare him to say it infront of fans now, not hiding behind the media like the weasels they are. The failure in this window will bring back the vile toxicity that plauged the start of last season and led us to one of our worst seasons, so I dont understand why are they so determined to make everything such a pain.

Also, Auba signed with the promise of signings, if it doesn't happen this window, I highly doubt he will be happy

I cant wait for those fan meetings, people will lose their shit
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Post by Jay29 Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:12 pm

This happens every summer and I'm starting to make my peace with it. It's intensely disappointing but it's not worth losing our minds over.

I say this every summer, too. Arsenal's problems in the transfer market stem from gross financial mismanagement since 2016 and that's fatal for a club that receives no investment from its owner AND is poor at developing other revenue streams.

Moreover, the pressure to return to the Champions League to boost our finances has lead to a short-term transfer strategy. Expensive signings such as Pepe, who is never going to be a £72m player, or the lucrative contracts given to Ozil, Willian, Luiz and Aubameyang, or the "experience" of Pablo Mari and Cedric. These signings become millstones when we don't get back into the Champions League, swelling the wage bill to unsustainable levels and making it exceedingly difficult to conduct business.

Arsenal are trying to sign two players for £50m a piece, both on massive salaries, while sitting on a wage bill of £225m, during a pandemic. They've banked on a strategy of removing players to make room for two marquee signings but it's flopped. Only Martinez has managed to bring in significant money to use. They've failed to secure a fee for Torreira, and as yet failed to find buyers for Guendouzi, Mustafi, Sokratis and Kolasinac.

Lost in all this is the shrewd signing of Gabriel Magelhaes, a 22-year-old CB with a lot of promise for around £20m. He, along with Tierney last year, are the signings we should be targeting. However, as these players need to develop, and going this way means accepting a lower league position for a while because the competition is super tough now. We can't be like Dortmund who can field a young team and still finish 2nd in the Bundesliga because only Bayern and Leipzig are threats to them. In the PL we've got City, Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Spurs splashing big and clubs like Wolves and Everton spending big to break in to the CL club.

In that sense, I get the club's short-term mindset, but some of their investments have been so boneheaded you can't claim it was the right thing to do.

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Post by Eman Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am

If you look at the rumours: Torreira, Kolasinac are already off. Sokratis, Saliba, Mustafi, Guendouzi, and Nelson all have suitors.

I think that we will get Aouar or Partey tomorrow once Kolasinac and Torreira head out, and if we can offload the others, who knows, maybe it will be an incredible day. The reality is that we needed to sell to buy and the sales are dragging on for so long that we haven’t been able to make the purchases we need, but tomorrow there will be madness across the market, so let’s see what happens.
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Post by Jay29 Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:16 am

Guendouzi to Hertha Berlin on loan. No loan fee, no purchase option, Hertha pay full wages.

Kolasinac's move to Leverkusen and Torreira's loan to Atletico are expected to go through today.

No news of incomings has emerged this morning. Never say never but I'm anticipating a quiet down on that front.

Ornstein said any Partey deal is looking unlikely. Aouar is 100% staying at Lyon now.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:59 am

@Jay29 wrote:Guendouzi to Hertha Berlin on loan. No loan fee, no purchase option, Hertha pay full wages.


Poor kid. Wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
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