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Post by titosantill on Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:32 pm

The theory is that socios where afraid of the deal going through because of wages and fear that socios wud ave to foot some of his wages or thereabout. I think they did want to sign him but just couldnt pay what psg was asking for. It's really that simple. Good on psg for not going with the deal

But there's still next summer, so it's up to psg to mend fences with the player or expect another saga

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:40 pm

@Clutch wrote:So they were just flying jets to Paris every now and then for show or those were false reports?


Not just Jjuve's management playing 4D chess :bow: :bow:
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Post by sportsczy on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:13 pm

@titosantill wrote:The theory is that socios where afraid of the deal going through because of wages and fear that socios wud ave to foot some of his wages or thereabout. I think they did want to sign him but just couldnt pay what psg was asking for. It's really that simple. Good on psg for not going with the deal

But there's still next summer, so it's up to psg to mend fences with the player or expect another saga

Thing is tito that Neymar has 3 years left on his contract and PSG don't need the money.  Rabiot tried the same stunt and it failed miserably too.

Either Barca or someone pays the fee that PSG requires or they'll just let the contract run down.

People have a hard time understanding that it's more about saving face than money...  money is a non factor in the literal sense.  The pricetag is about perceptions.

Reason for this PSG-Barca fiasco specifically is how Barca deals with clubs.  Their relationship is horrible with PSG and Qatar overall.  Asking a player to revolt and then looking to use that as leverage to strongarm club may work on some....  but not PSG.

I'm pretty sure no amount less than 222 mil euros (what they paid for Neymar) will be accepted ever just on principal.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:17 pm

Apparently you can buy out a player's freedom when he's tied under a contract

FIFA recognises the right for a player to leave a club, paying compensation to buy someone's freedom. Neymar's agents know this and have consulted FIFA. They have learned that for an amount close to €170m, the player's freedom can be bought. [md]

But I guess that 170m would have to be paid on top of the fee? Need to look into it

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:25 pm

FIFA recognizes nothing of the sort.  FIFA recognizes contracts.  More importantly, the labor laws (and laws period) of the country in question trumps everything. And in France, as long as a player is allowed to train normally, there is no requirement for a club to call them or play them. Neymar would have to prove that PSG is in breach of contract and France's labor lawys.

Please link me to something that mentions this supposed FIFA nonsense you wrote.


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Post by rincon on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:27 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Clutch wrote:So they were just flying jets to Paris every now and then for show or those were false reports?


Not just Jjuve's management playing 4D chess :bow: :bow:

Stay bitter Hans. Here we are with Dybala and without Lukaku after all that bs talking Proud . How was Bayern's mercato?
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:28 pm

https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/regulations-on-the-status-and-transfer-of-players-2018-2925437-2925439.pdf?cloudid=rcvrsbmimvqziptvqjaq

article 17

its in french so maybe you can help

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:30 pm

There's nothing in there that states what your wrote lol.

It's a very standard clause where a contract is broken for cause or no cause.  All it says is that whichever party breaks a contract for non cause, that party will need to pay the value of the breach and the penalties involved.

If Neymar were to break his contract now for example, he would need to idemnify PSG 3/5 of his transfer fee that PSG paid + any other damages that PSG can prove + get sanctioned by FIFA.

If PSG were to breach its contract with Neymar (which it never will), it would need to indemnify Neymar as well.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:46 pm

So they're just outright lying? theres a whole article in Mundo Deportivo about this with plenty of sources quoting that shit lol

I will never trust the media again, even Di Marzio let me down

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:28 pm

Sport is horrible.  It's like AS for Madrid.  They make shit up all the time.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:39 pm

@Myesyats wrote:So they're just outright lying? theres a whole article in Mundo Deportivo about this with plenty of sources quoting that shit lol

I will never trust the media again, even Di Marzio let me down
that article is about rupture of contract and the consequence involved. For short if Neymar wants to breaks his contract with PSG, he is going to be suspended from playing for 6 months, he will be personally on the hook to pay PSG along with his new club any club found guilty of inciting a player to break his contract will receive a transfer ban.

Yeah, you don't wanna go that way because PSG will sue the living shit out of you and Nerman lol
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:40 pm

@Myesyats wrote:So they're just outright lying? theres a whole article in Mundo Deportivo about this with plenty of sources quoting that shit lol

I will never trust the media again, even Di Marzio let me down

Uh... Yeah. That's exactly what they do. They lie. If an article doesn't have direct quotes do not believe a word of it, and if it does have direct quotes assume they have not shown you the full context of what that person said
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Post by futbol on Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:54 pm

No big deal. PSG's "project" ends in 2022 after Qatar WC and Neymar contract expiry and Mbappe contract expiry. No serious player wants to go there already other than for a paycheck. We offered Rakitic, Dembélé, Todibo. None of them wanted to go. Not even Rakitic at the end of his career for a last big paycheck. lmao

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:55 pm

@futbol wrote:No big deal.


Correct.

There was none Proud
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Post by futbol on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:00 pm

Also this saga should be over for good. This summer, 27.5 year old Neymar, you can accept € 200m or losing Dembélé. Next year with 28.5 he is too old for such a sum.

Shame but his own fault. Went for the money as he if was starving at Barca. He got a € 40m bonus for his signing and would have gotten a "loyalty" bonus of € 30m or whatever it was after just 4 seasons with the club on top of his already high wages. How much more money does one need?

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:03 pm

Please tell us more.
For what else reasons are not disappointed?
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Post by futbol on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:05 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Please tell us more.
For what else reasons are not disappointed?


Grammar?

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Post by Perucho21 on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:14 pm

@futbol wrote:No big deal. PSG's "project" ends in 2022 after Qatar WC and Neymar contract expiry and Mbappe contract expiry. No serious player wants to go there already other than for a paycheck. We offered Rakitic, Dembélé, Todibo. None of them wanted to go. Not even Rakitic at the end of his career for a last big paycheck. lmao


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Post by danyjr on Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:16 pm

This season will be huge for QSG. If they flop again not only Neymar will leave, but every semi-decent player will follow.

I'm glad they also got my boy Mauro to destroy the already frail chemistry in the dressing room Proud
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Post by titosantill on Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:35 pm

I hate when people throw around words like 'freedom' and 'slavery' in sports. It's a freaking contract. The same way a club cant just sack a player (unless via a major breach of contract) without paying em, is the same as a player not leaving a club unless an agreement is reached.

PSG paid neymar's release clause and signed him. Instead of shouting freedom like mel Gibson from braveheart, all barca need to do is pay the amount being asked. It's not that deep
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:38 pm

@titosantill wrote:I hate when people throw around words like 'freedom' and 'slavery' in sports. It's a freaking contract. The same way a club cant just sack a player (unless via a major breach of contract) without paying em, is the same as a player not leaving a club unless an agreement is reached.

PSG paid neymar's release clause and signed him. Instead of shouting freedom like mel Gibson from braveheart, all barca need to do is pay the amount being asked. It's not that deep

Amen.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:12 pm

@titosantill wrote:I hate when people throw around words like 'freedom' and 'slavery' in sports. It's a freaking contract. The same way a club cant just sack a player (unless via a major breach of contract) without paying em, is the same as a player not leaving a club unless an agreement is reached.

PSG paid neymar's release clause and signed him. Instead of shouting freedom like mel Gibson from braveheart, all barca need to do is pay the amount being asked. It's not that deep
except Mel Gibson in Braveheart had more money than barca rofl
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Post by Doc on Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:34 pm

I agree, Neymar would leave to go back to his house in Paris and think about how he would be in PSG for another 3 years. Along with those half decent players. Contracts aren't signed on their own you know. Neymar built his "prison of gold" with his own hands tbh.

@futbol
We both know you really wanted Neymar back. Just admit it you dork.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:35 am

Barca lads need to respectfully come here and take that L
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Post by NeganIsco on Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:16 am

@futbol wrote:No big deal. PSG's "project" ends in 2022 after Qatar WC and Neymar contract expiry and Mbappe contract expiry. No serious player wants to go there already other than for a paycheck. We offered Rakitic, Dembélé, Todibo. None of them wanted to go. Not even Rakitic at the end of his career for a last big paycheck. lmao


and you think anyone wants to go to your shitty team if it weren't for fat paychecks?

Players like Coutinho, Dembele, & many more have milked you dry.


Please try to cut just 100K from Messi's salary, and he will kick your sorry ass of a club and leave Laughing
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Post by zenmaster on Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:39 am

Thankfully the saga has ended.

Lets see how the new folks specially Fati does as a team player.
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